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On August 02 2012 07:21 Sufficiency wrote: The pull is purely her jungling mechanics imo. However, I believe she should NOT be played as a jungler, because her ratios are very high and her ganks are not that great before 6.
She should be played in mid; her playstyle should be similar to Kassadin, LeBlanc, and Akali - as a burst assassin with teleport. Playing her as a burst assassin feels like a waste when her Q, W, and passive are AoE damage, and her E is an incredibly strong AoE teamfighting ability.
I would argue that she's far more likely to get full effectiveness by trying to set up other AoEs and maximizing her AoE damage, rather than tunnel-vision diving a single target.
On August 02 2012 07:25 Sufficiency wrote: Honestly I don't think it's strong for Diana. Diana relies mostly on bursts; it's somewhat unlikely that you can proc your ult more than once.... How is it somewhat unlikely?
Q->R->E, they're all bunched up and slowed, so you're guaranteed at least one more Q->R.
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On August 02 2012 07:30 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 07:21 Sufficiency wrote: The pull is purely her jungling mechanics imo. However, I believe she should NOT be played as a jungler, because her ratios are very high and her ganks are not that great before 6.
She should be played in mid; her playstyle should be similar to Kassadin, LeBlanc, and Akali - as a burst assassin with teleport. Playing her as a burst assassin feels like a waste when her Q, W, and passive are AoE damage, and her E is an incredibly strong AoE teamfighting ability. I would argue that she's far more likely to get full effectiveness by trying to set up other AoEs and maximizing her AoE damage, rather than tunnel-vision diving a single target.
As a poke her Q looks pretty good. But eventually she has to go in because all of her other abilities is either a gap closer or operate on (pseudo-) melee range. A single AOE spell probably does not justify her role in an AOE comp.
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On August 02 2012 07:34 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 07:30 TheYango wrote:On August 02 2012 07:21 Sufficiency wrote: The pull is purely her jungling mechanics imo. However, I believe she should NOT be played as a jungler, because her ratios are very high and her ganks are not that great before 6.
She should be played in mid; her playstyle should be similar to Kassadin, LeBlanc, and Akali - as a burst assassin with teleport. Playing her as a burst assassin feels like a waste when her Q, W, and passive are AoE damage, and her E is an incredibly strong AoE teamfighting ability. I would argue that she's far more likely to get full effectiveness by trying to set up other AoEs and maximizing her AoE damage, rather than tunnel-vision diving a single target. As a poke her Q looks pretty good. But eventually she has to go in because all of her other abilities is either a gap closer or operate on (pseudo-) melee range. A single AOE spell probably does not justify her role in an AOE comp. Wat. Everything aside from her ult is AoE.
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Also, Rylai's seems like it'd be funny just for the continually re-applying slow setting up Q->R.
On August 02 2012 07:34 Sufficiency wrote: As a poke her Q looks pretty good. But eventually she has to go in because all of her other abilities is either a gap closer or operate on (pseudo-) melee range. A single AOE spell probably does not justify her role in an AOE comp. Short-range PBAoE doesn't count as AoE?
This just in guys, picking Amumu doesn't fit AoE comps.
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On August 02 2012 07:37 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 07:34 Sufficiency wrote:On August 02 2012 07:30 TheYango wrote:On August 02 2012 07:21 Sufficiency wrote: The pull is purely her jungling mechanics imo. However, I believe she should NOT be played as a jungler, because her ratios are very high and her ganks are not that great before 6.
She should be played in mid; her playstyle should be similar to Kassadin, LeBlanc, and Akali - as a burst assassin with teleport. Playing her as a burst assassin feels like a waste when her Q, W, and passive are AoE damage, and her E is an incredibly strong AoE teamfighting ability. I would argue that she's far more likely to get full effectiveness by trying to set up other AoEs and maximizing her AoE damage, rather than tunnel-vision diving a single target. As a poke her Q looks pretty good. But eventually she has to go in because all of her other abilities is either a gap closer or operate on (pseudo-) melee range. A single AOE spell probably does not justify her role in an AOE comp. Wat. Everything aside from her ult is AoE.
Her E does no damage. Her W does low, delayed damage in melee range...
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Her E can set up an entire enemy team for even more AoE. It's an ability unheard of before in LoL. (DotA Dark Seer Vacuum I think?)
She sucks people in, you chain AoE stuns and just massacre them. Like, she sucks them in. You set up Leona/Sona/Sejuani/Cho'Gath/Annie/Swain. Or just Viktor Ult five people.
Why would you not want something like this in an AoE team?
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I'm not the biggest fan of squishy ap junglers,she has no cc apart from that pull,which I guess may make or break her,and if you don't get a decent lead or get fed your just going to get cced and nuked in a teamfight. All her skills are pretty much aoe and she has no escape so if anything she will be played mid maybe.Top is going to be suicide. Shes going to be a fun snowball champ but nothing else,imo shes going to suck.
Oh I just remembered what that cho skin reminds me off + Show Spoiler +
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Or you could have shake get camped top lane to protect Nunu secret OP
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All you guys playing champs that aren't even released
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Oh yea....
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LTJy5.jpg)
RIP Kirisame Lux
EDIT: Oh hey I think that's ShackDrizzle's game on the left, lol.
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On August 02 2012 07:52 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Her E can set up an entire enemy team for even more AoE. It's an ability unheard of before in LoL. (DotA Dark Seer Vacuum I think?)
She sucks people in, you chain AoE stuns and just massacre them. Like, she sucks them in. You set up Leona/Sona/Sejuani/Cho'Gath/Annie/Swain. Or just Viktor Ult five people.
Why would you not want something like this in an AoE team?
Orianna says wut
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On August 02 2012 07:58 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 07:52 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Her E can set up an entire enemy team for even more AoE. It's an ability unheard of before in LoL. (DotA Dark Seer Vacuum I think?)
She sucks people in, you chain AoE stuns and just massacre them. Like, she sucks them in. You set up Leona/Sona/Sejuani/Cho'Gath/Annie/Swain. Or just Viktor Ult five people.
Why would you not want something like this in an AoE team? Orianna says wut
Orianna's ult does not suck people in.
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On August 02 2012 07:59 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 07:58 sob3k wrote:On August 02 2012 07:52 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Her E can set up an entire enemy team for even more AoE. It's an ability unheard of before in LoL. (DotA Dark Seer Vacuum I think?)
She sucks people in, you chain AoE stuns and just massacre them. Like, she sucks them in. You set up Leona/Sona/Sejuani/Cho'Gath/Annie/Swain. Or just Viktor Ult five people.
Why would you not want something like this in an AoE team? Orianna says wut Orianna's ult does not suck people in. It somewhat does since it flings people towards and possibly over the ball.
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Is it just me or are a lot of LP posters from the czech republic?
On August 02 2012 07:37 TheYango wrote: Short-range PBAoE doesn't count as AoE? isn't that redundant?
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On August 02 2012 07:56 obesechicken13 wrote:All you guys playing champs that aren't even released  pbe dude
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On August 02 2012 07:53 TheKefka wrote:I'm not the biggest fan of squishy ap junglers,she has no cc apart from that pull,which I guess may make or break her,and if you don't get a decent lead or get fed your just going to get cced and nuked in a teamfight. All her skills are pretty much aoe and she has no escape so if anything she will be played mid maybe.Top is going to be suicide. Shes going to be a fun snowball champ but nothing else,imo shes going to suck. Oh I just remembered what that cho skin reminds me off + Show Spoiler +
Pretty sure that's from digimon, but which one is it again?
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On August 02 2012 08:23 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 07:53 TheKefka wrote:I'm not the biggest fan of squishy ap junglers,she has no cc apart from that pull,which I guess may make or break her,and if you don't get a decent lead or get fed your just going to get cced and nuked in a teamfight. All her skills are pretty much aoe and she has no escape so if anything she will be played mid maybe.Top is going to be suicide. Shes going to be a fun snowball champ but nothing else,imo shes going to suck. Oh I just remembered what that cho skin reminds me off + Show Spoiler + Pretty sure that's from digimon, but which one is it again?
Looks like Metal Greymon
Off-topic: How are people building Shaco, if anyone still plays him? I very rarely see him banned, and I'd like to take advantage of that.
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This patch just fixed some errors of the previous patches and made amumu too strong (I never buy AP on him anyway and the mana costs were the only thing keeping him back). Cho seems OP now that his abilities are actually doing what they are supposed to do, my team got CC raped by him several times 1.5 stun and 3.5 silence.
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On August 02 2012 08:16 UniversalSnip wrote:Is it just me or are a lot of LP posters from the czech republic? Show nested quote +On August 02 2012 07:37 TheYango wrote: Short-range PBAoE doesn't count as AoE? isn't that redundant? I am :D We're not winning anything in the Olympics so we have a lot of free time it seems.
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Holy hell Diana is so fun - I love Dark Seer
Too bad PBE is plagued with people who are just flat out bad lol. I had most cs in game from jungle.
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