EPT[Patch 1.0.0.144: Diana] General Discussion - Page 174
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On August 14 2012 21:49 Yttrasil wrote: So, anyone else feel as a top laner that the switch from clairvoyance to other spells has made the lane alot more unstable and volatile as now you only know where the jungler is when he's spotted on the map? the problem i have is that you get punished for playing defensively considering possible gank timings while your opponent can luck his way through the lane when not considering them. | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
On August 14 2012 21:26 Ryuu314 wrote: I'm more surprised by the fact that they actually ban Jax in EU with some frequency O_o If you guys haven't checked out all the graphs they do on lolking now I would definitely suggest it, it is a really powerful/interesting tool. Matchup winrates, top picks/bans, highest winrate champs. While some of this data may be tough to interpret, you can even click on a champion then see the top players with this champion then see what masteries/runes they build on them (assuming they label their pages). There is also fun stuff to check out like item frequency in game and what champion uses which item the most. Moonflair spellblade? not too popular. http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&league=ranked&type=champion-winrate&range=daily | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
We heard you like true damage so we put some MPen with yo Mreduction so you can true damage while you damage. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On August 14 2012 21:26 Ryuu314 wrote: I'm more surprised by the fact that they actually ban Jax in EU with some frequency O_o He's a very good filler ban, and some people see him as a threat, because he's hard to shut down and i agree. Not many champions can completely deny him his farm. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
HoG #1 most popular item, how does this make people feel? User was warned for this post | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On August 14 2012 22:46 Sponkz wrote: He's a very good filler ban, and some people see him as a threat, because he's hard to shut down and i agree. Not many champions can completely deny him his farm. Nah, they all just watched CLG.NA vs Azubo Frost and think he's bugged and actually immortal. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On August 14 2012 22:48 wei2coolman wrote: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=na&league=platinum&type=item-popularity&range=weekly HoG #1 most popular item, how does this make people feel? HoG > Philo for supports anyways. Not a surprise, especially when regibro supports the triple gp10 build on AP carries. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On August 14 2012 21:49 Yttrasil wrote: So, anyone else feel as a top laner that the switch from clairvoyance to other spells has made the lane alot more unstable and volatile as now you only know where the jungler is when he's spotted on the map? Buy more wards and plaster the enemy jungle with them. All lanes and even your own jungle got "more unstable". The only option is to ward more, as taking CV on 2-3 people at once is entirely out of the question and 1 CV is just useless for jungle tracking. On August 14 2012 22:48 wei2coolman wrote: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=na&league=platinum&type=item-popularity&range=weekly HoG #1 most popular item, how does this make people feel? Apparently people don't buy boots. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 14 2012 22:22 YouGotNothin wrote: If you guys haven't checked out all the graphs they do on lolking now I would definitely suggest it, it is a really powerful/interesting tool. Matchup winrates, top picks/bans, highest winrate champs. While some of this data may be tough to interpret, you can even click on a champion then see the top players with this champion then see what masteries/runes they build on them (assuming they label their pages). There is also fun stuff to check out like item frequency in game and what champion uses which item the most. Moonflair spellblade? not too popular. http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&league=ranked&type=champion-winrate&range=daily There are some definite fallacies in some of the lolking graphs, but I do enjoy browsing through them. The matchup graph is flawed because it only takes into account the actual turn out of the game. It has no way to accurately evaluate how the lane phase turns out for either side of the matchup. Also, the top players with champions is completely bogus. It only takes into account win %, with some value on Elo (I believe). Because of this, people with only a few games played but high win % and high elo will be on that list. (Aranium, iG zz1tai, and myself are not on the top players for Viktor, so yeah) | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 14 2012 22:48 wei2coolman wrote: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=na&league=platinum&type=item-popularity&range=weekly HoG #1 most popular item, how does this make people feel? Like people don't use their brains when they play this game (not too surprising, tbh). On August 14 2012 22:52 Sponkz wrote: HoG > Philo for supports anyways. Not a surprise, especially when regibro supports the triple gp10 build on AP carries. Explain to me how HoG > Philo for supports. Philo gives cost-effective regen stats and builds into an item that's more frequently practically useful. HoG gives cost-inefficient HP and builds into options that are practically awkward for a support. If I'm in a scenario where I want regen for a long laning phase, I'd finish Philo. If I'm in a scenario where I need survivability/fighting stats, I'd get Ruby+Cloth or Ruby+Null rather than HoG. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
On August 14 2012 22:55 jcarlsoniv wrote: There are some definite fallacies in some of the lolking graphs, but I do enjoy browsing through them. The matchup graph is flawed because it only takes into account the actual turn out of the game. It has no way to accurately evaluate how the lane phase turns out for either side of the matchup. Also, the top players with champions is completely bogus. It only takes into account win %, with some value on Elo (I believe). Because of this, people with only a few games played but high win % and high elo will be on that list. (Aranium, iG zz1tai, and myself are not on the top players for Viktor, so yeah) Yes both these points are true, still fun though and I think something can be learned. I hope they change how they do the top players for each champion some mix of games played and win % or elo maybe. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 14 2012 23:03 Nikon wrote: I'm going through the use 21 defensive masteries on every champ phase. Will I ever recover? It depends. I only bother using 21 defensive masteries if I know I've pretty much got counter picked hard. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On August 14 2012 22:57 TheYango wrote: Like people don't use their brains when they play this game (not too surprising, tbh). Explain to me how HoG > Philo for supports. Philo gives cost-effective regen stats and builds into an item that's more frequently practically useful. HoG gives cost-inefficient HP and builds into options that are practically awkward for a support. If I'm in a scenario where I want regen for a long laning phase, I'd finish Philo. If I'm in a scenario where I need survivability/fighting stats, I'd get Ruby+Cloth or Ruby+Null rather than HoG. Philo gives cost-efficient mana regen, but i just personally dislike reverie on supports, as i feel junglers should have 1. And HP > Regen when it comes to laning, because you're not trading like in a solo lane, it's more up-front trades that results in kills which happens in duo lanes (from my experience at least). | ||
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Celial
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