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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 23 2012 16:52 GMT
#841
On July 24 2012 01:51 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 01:39 Navi wrote:
i wanted to grind to 2500 but queue time consistently over 20 min during off hours (when i can usually play) ....
*first world elo problems*

It's like 8 minutes for me. What kind of off hours are you talking about?


The asia hours.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
July 23 2012 16:53 GMT
#842
On July 24 2012 01:51 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 01:39 Navi wrote:
i wanted to grind to 2500 but queue time consistently over 20 min during off hours (when i can usually play) ....
*first world elo problems*

It's like 8 minutes for me. What kind of off hours are you talking about?

morn pst and weird ass luck
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
July 23 2012 16:53 GMT
#843
Hmm..have 6300 IP and can't decide if I want to get Darius, Draven, or wait for the new hero.

Usually play top or ad...suggestions from those who have played those champs?
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 23 2012 16:54 GMT
#844
get darius
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2012 16:56 GMT
#845
Real first world LoL problems: play inhouses that are consistently going on, or take the things I've learned to ranked.

Inhouses have been really fun, but ELO balancing is hard at times T.T
It's your boy Guzma!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 23 2012 16:57 GMT
#846
On July 24 2012 01:56 Requizen wrote:
Real first world LoL problems: play inhouses that are consistently going on, or take the things I've learned to ranked.

Inhouses have been really fun, but ELO balancing is hard at times T.T

Why not both!?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2012 16:59 GMT
#847
On July 24 2012 01:57 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 01:56 Requizen wrote:
Real first world LoL problems: play inhouses that are consistently going on, or take the things I've learned to ranked.

Inhouses have been really fun, but ELO balancing is hard at times T.T

Why not both!?

Because most people don't want to queue with the 1k player >.>
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 23 2012 17:00 GMT
#848
On July 24 2012 01:53 Mondeezy wrote:
Hmm..have 6300 IP and can't decide if I want to get Darius, Draven, or wait for the new hero.

Usually play top or ad...suggestions from those who have played those champs?


I feel that Draven is the new Cassiopeia. High skillcap, amazing laning phase, sleeper OP.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 23 2012 17:04 GMT
#849
Hm... I've been meaning to learn Talon as I feel playing an assassin could teach me a lot of things pertaining to escapes, angles of approach and general positioning, but getting camped is quite hard and often I have to rely on my E to get a combo, which has a high cooldown.

Are there Talon players here (no thread for him atm)? I'm wondering if against mid-range champs I could just W them when they go for a last hit and use the slow to run up to them and Q them without wasting my gap closer. I've been considering completing ghostblade (after LW and/or BT) to use the active + R's MS boost as my gap closer, combo a squishy then E an enemy on the sides to get out during teamfights. I dunno how viable it is.
I've had some success as long as I'm not camped and forced to blow my ult to escape, but the people I played against seemed really bad (a Morgana entering my range or getting every Q baited and dodged by my E), so I'm not sure if I'm working on it or just getting bad habit playing bad people.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 23 2012 17:04 GMT
#850
I always see Draven crush lane and then fall off hard. Not too impressed :/
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 23 2012 17:06 GMT
#851
On July 24 2012 02:04 HazMat wrote:
I always see Draven crush lane and then fall off hard. Not too impressed :/


Y u no stream. I see you on cruzerthebruzer's stream :p
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 17:10:11
July 23 2012 17:08 GMT
#852
On July 24 2012 02:04 Alaric wrote:
Hm... I've been meaning to learn Talon as I feel playing an assassin could teach me a lot of things pertaining to escapes, angles of approach and general positioning, but getting camped is quite hard and often I have to rely on my E to get a combo, which has a high cooldown.

Are there Talon players here (no thread for him atm)? I'm wondering if against mid-range champs I could just W them when they go for a last hit and use the slow to run up to them and Q them without wasting my gap closer. I've been considering completing ghostblade (after LW and/or BT) to use the active + R's MS boost as my gap closer, combo a squishy then E an enemy on the sides to get out during teamfights. I dunno how viable it is.
I've had some success as long as I'm not camped and forced to blow my ult to escape, but the people I played against seemed really bad (a Morgana entering my range or getting every Q baited and dodged by my E), so I'm not sure if I'm working on it or just getting bad habit playing bad people.

Depending on jungler and who you are against, you want to start trading right away or at level 3-4, At level 4, if you won't get ganked, you pretty much want to harass them as much as possible. If they have no armor and 70% hp then your lvl 6 burst will kill them. I don't like ghost blade, in fact, usually I just stack BTs and get LW when they actually get armor, so normally bruta BT LW BT or bruta BT BT LW.
Personally I buy boots 5 for better roaming but merc treads work as well. Always look to either kill your opponent at mid, and if you can't, shove the lane and go top/bot. It always feels like you are playing against bad people when you are talon, because if you're good, one mistake is enough for you to kill someone. These general timings you have to discover yourself by playing a lot
you can ask me more questions in euw lp
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 23 2012 17:12 GMT
#853
Eh Ghostblade is kinda iffy on Talon, you mostly wanna stay on Brutalizer just for the CD + Arpen, then maybe sell it late game for a G.A or LW. I guess if the enemy team comp has really good mobility skills and kiting abilities you could go ghostblade but its not normally built otherwise
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
July 23 2012 17:25 GMT
#854
As someone who doesn't watch a ton of competitive lol, I always seem to find myself at a quandary when wining top lane.

A lot of times I'll play like Kayle or Riven and just have a really good early game (or have an easy matchup) and be able to freeze my wave right outside my tower and deny the opposing top lane super super hard. Now, when Im at a big advantage like this, what should I be doing? I see two possible solutions:

1) Keep freezing your wave and denying your opponent to make the game essentially a 5v4.5

or

2) Push your wave to take the tower and roam to help your team

A lot of times I really wish I would just take my tower fast and help my team out because someone will do something dumb and it will cost our team when I know I could be out on the map, but then again, it seems like you're just allowing your opponent to catch up top lane (seems especially scary if you were versus someone like Nasus)

How do you know when to take your tower, or just push waves and roam, and when to freeze your wave and farm up a storm while denying?

Thanks.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
July 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#855
It's a decision YOU have to make. How important is shutting down their AP? Is your team winning or losing? Are you a hero that counterjungles (shyv) or ganks mid well (malphite) ?
This really depends on the situation, you'd have to ask me a specific one so that I could tell you.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
July 23 2012 17:34 GMT
#856
Btw did Dyrus go through with all ~50 champions in a single sitting?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Arekan
Profile Joined February 2011
United States248 Posts
July 23 2012 17:37 GMT
#857
On July 24 2012 02:34 Celial wrote:
Btw did Dyrus go through with all ~50 champions in a single sitting?


Oddone said one his stream that Dyrus is continuing the marathon whenever he gets up so most likely no.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 17:43:08
July 23 2012 17:42 GMT
#858
On July 24 2012 02:04 HazMat wrote:
I always see Draven crush lane and then fall off hard. Not too impressed :/


Well, his teamfight is really awkward. You can get baited into over-committing by your own abilities -___-

But I think over time people will play him better in teamfights.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sicariidae
Profile Joined May 2011
50 Posts
July 23 2012 17:43 GMT
#859
On July 24 2012 02:25 Arisen wrote:How do you know when to take your tower, or just push waves and roam, and when to freeze your wave and farm up a storm while denying?


Generally, you roam around when you feel that you can make something happen elsewhere on the map. Either working with a strong jungler to invade enemy camps, helping to gank another lane or grouping to take a tower or dragon.

Deciding when you can actually do something comes from experience and understanding the game. For example, if the midlane matchup is Ahri vs Morgana, neither really has much kill potential on the other, even with ganks, so you are wasting your time trying. During that time, the enemy toplaner just got a wave and a half of creeps and has closed the gap between you two, so you wasted your time and let some of your advantage slip.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
July 23 2012 17:44 GMT
#860
I have recently been thinking about jungle invading and what makes a good invade team. Obviously a strong lvl 1 team comp is important. So I was wondering what you guys think are the strongest level 1 champions/skills.

Some that I think are particularly strong:
Blitz/Naut: Grab
Lux: Double snare
Panth/Taric/Sion: click stun

I feel like spells that can isolate one person so that your team can quickly burst them down are most important as invades typically aren't full 5v5 fights but 4 trying to run from 5 (invaders). If you can catch them despite flashes, you can get those early kill/kills.
I got nothin'...
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