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[Patch 1.0.0.143: MidJuly-Zyra] General Discussion - Page 42

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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 14:26:23
July 23 2012 14:25 GMT
#821
It's probably been up since the patch, I noticed yesterday (EUW) while in spectate lobby (during the game's first three minutes) that her portrait was there, and if you go in your profile you'll be able to click it to view her skins, skills' videos and all that stuff.
Also, in said spectate lobby it's only since that patch that you can scroll down the champion's list, you couldn't before. Serves no purpose but still nicer than to get stuck on the 40 or so first alphabetical champions.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 14:40:57
July 23 2012 14:38 GMT
#822
I'm really interested in her. Love playing mages that can push and farm jungle very well. Just wonder what her range will be.

She also gives off the sense of playing her like Karthus: Get in the middle of their team and do damage. ulti seems to punish enemy team if they switch focus on to her with the knockup. Though I guess you really need to focus more on using plants+seeds well.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
July 23 2012 15:16 GMT
#823
How is ahri vs swain matchup?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 23 2012 15:19 GMT
#824
On July 24 2012 00:16 Hakanfrog wrote:
How is ahri vs swain matchup?


A bit rough for Ahri. If Swain can dodge her skill shots, it removes a lot of her damage potential. For her ult to do damage, she needs to get in range of all of Swain's skills and stay in range. This is where Swain wants you to be, so it can be difficult. It is also hard, though, for Swain to lock her down.

All in all it's more of a skill matchup with very slight advantage to Swain (since his skills are all targeted except W, and Ahri's Q is skill shot). Later game, on equal farm, Swain probably wins.
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YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
July 23 2012 15:21 GMT
#825
On July 23 2012 21:12 Lmui wrote:
alright, I'm calling it right now. Lux FotM after seeing froggen play her in scrims. 300 cs in under 26 minutes every time, 100-0 a squishy from offscreen over and over with a really really short cooldown without even using dfg O___O.


Can you give any more details on how he built/played her? Lux is my favorite AP mid because she is just so fun to use and the crazy plays you can pull off are awesome. However I have always felt she is a little sub-par compared to the most popular AP mids today.
I got nothin'...
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
July 23 2012 15:26 GMT
#826
On July 24 2012 00:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 00:16 Hakanfrog wrote:
How is ahri vs swain matchup?


A bit rough for Ahri. If Swain can dodge her skill shots, it removes a lot of her damage potential. For her ult to do damage, she needs to get in range of all of Swain's skills and stay in range. This is where Swain wants you to be, so it can be difficult. It is also hard, though, for Swain to lock her down.

All in all it's more of a skill matchup with very slight advantage to Swain (since his skills are all targeted except W, and Ahri's Q is skill shot). Later game, on equal farm, Swain probably wins.

Actually, it's very bad for ahri. From my experience at least, i completely shit on any ahris with swain
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
July 23 2012 15:29 GMT
#827
Swain rapes Ahri ezpz.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 15:30:44
July 23 2012 15:29 GMT
#828
On July 23 2012 21:12 Lmui wrote:
alright, I'm calling it right now. Lux FotM after seeing froggen play her in scrims. 300 cs in under 26 minutes every time, 100-0 a squishy from offscreen over and over with a really really short cooldown without even using dfg O___O.


I seriously doubt it. Lux simply has too many hard counters to be FotM material.


On July 24 2012 00:29 Cloud9157 wrote:
Swain rapes Ahri ezpz.


I think Swain rapes almost any mid in lane because of how his kit works.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 23 2012 15:32 GMT
#829
I haven't played the matchup in quite some time - forgot Swain was buffed and Ahri was nerfed. Yeah, I can definitely see Swain trucking Ahri now.
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
July 23 2012 15:33 GMT
#830
On July 23 2012 08:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 08:16 Eppa! wrote:
I have only tried Zilean once vs Cass, I won but meh, I think catalyst Cass can take the lane and with a good jungler it should be hard to stop Cass from pressuring first blue respawn.


Edit: Also i would personally just pick Fizz but that's my answer to most mid MU except Ryze Morg Ahri and Bird.


Fizz beats all of them except Ryze convincingly...trollpole their long cd cc skillshot and they're powerless...

I was talking about the common ones, Swain and Morde shits on Fizz. However a good player that extensively knows the MU will win the lane as Fizz does not have the mana to harass them down enough before they get Catalyst or another big mid tier item as well as their ultis if they play well and later he can't really keep up enough pressure to control the lane. I do play Fizz vs Bird, Ahri, Morg but if they know the MU it favours them.
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
July 23 2012 15:36 GMT
#831
A few mages can hold their own vs Swain.

Cassie has more damage than him at pretty much every stage of the game. Ori can poke him down as well.

Otherwise just pick a champion that can shove with relative safety on him.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 23 2012 15:49 GMT
#832
On July 24 2012 00:33 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 08:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On July 23 2012 08:16 Eppa! wrote:
I have only tried Zilean once vs Cass, I won but meh, I think catalyst Cass can take the lane and with a good jungler it should be hard to stop Cass from pressuring first blue respawn.


Edit: Also i would personally just pick Fizz but that's my answer to most mid MU except Ryze Morg Ahri and Bird.


Fizz beats all of them except Ryze convincingly...trollpole their long cd cc skillshot and they're powerless...

I was talking about the common ones, Swain and Morde shits on Fizz. However a good player that extensively knows the MU will win the lane as Fizz does not have the mana to harass them down enough before they get Catalyst or another big mid tier item as well as their ultis if they play well and later he can't really keep up enough pressure to control the lane. I do play Fizz vs Bird, Ahri, Morg but if they know the MU it favours them.


The problem with the Morg matchup isn't that the MU favors her it's that she can force a draw and be far more useful to her team in teamfights later. This is the reason I stopped picking Fizz into morg (which I used to do on purpose because she has 0 potential to damage you). Freefarm Fizz is a good assasin but where he really shines is shutting down the opposing mid with death threats and side lane ganks, both of which Morg can prevent/punish.
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
July 23 2012 16:04 GMT
#833
The thing is Fizz can not clear fast enough after a while so you can't get wraiths while Morg can.
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Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
July 23 2012 16:09 GMT
#834
Well I guess it wasn´t just me being bad. My biggest problem was how he is impossible to kill past lvl 6, my burst was way too slow to kill him.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 23 2012 16:38 GMT
#835
Ahri gets rolled by Swain pretty easily, can't use range against swain, gotta get in swain's face with W and R which he likes, and when you ult he just clicks you twice and you're kind of done.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
July 23 2012 16:39 GMT
#836
i wanted to grind to 2500 but queue time consistently over 20 min during off hours (when i can usually play) ....
*first world elo problems*
Hey! Listen!
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 16:46:41
July 23 2012 16:43 GMT
#837
Just wondering, are there any tips to dealing with Heimerdinger in the late game? This game last night, I was destroying him mid lane in CS (me Morde), and had 2 kills over him, but late game he just exploded and dealt damage out of no where.
Forever Young
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 23 2012 16:47 GMT
#838
On July 23 2012 15:57 MooMooMugi wrote:
Dat feel when you get a Promote/Surge Ziggs because nobody called the guy's dodge bluff


I played against a TF mid with promote. Maybe I was just bad, but that promote basically let him push whenever you want. It was a little ridiculous.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 23 2012 16:51 GMT
#839
On July 24 2012 01:39 Navi wrote:
i wanted to grind to 2500 but queue time consistently over 20 min during off hours (when i can usually play) ....
*first world elo problems*

It's like 8 minutes for me. What kind of off hours are you talking about?
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
July 23 2012 16:51 GMT
#840
So maybe I haven't heard talk of support items as of late, but Zeke's is op when you can get it.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
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