[Patch 1.0.0.142: Jayce] General Discussion - Page 99

On July 15 2012 04:46 Craton wrote:
Maokai available skins all suck ass. Skarner too.

On July 15 2012 05:54 RageOverdose wrote:
I dunno if someone discussed this, but I noticed that people considered the Kassadin change a nerf. It actually is a buff with a 0.8 AP ratio up from 0.5.

Assuming you don't get zoned out and denied (and that hurts Kassadin really hard anyway as he needs to be able to burst up a carry).

Say you have 200 AP. Before you would just get 100 extra damage on a walk. Now you get 160. 60 damage difference in the AP alone, which will yield overall more damage if you have level 2 Riftwalk (probably will), but with 20 less damage now, it's actually 40 more damage, which is worth 2 stacks before you go below the damage pre-change, then it's nerfed and your mana is going to suffer a lot so it isn't really wise to build up 3+ stacks at that point.

Level 1 Riftwalk will now do more damage than before. So he's more threatening at 6 (not by much I guess, since Rift is usually used to get in range for a Q->E combo) with teleporting.

If you hit lategame and get 400-500 AP, you will be doing much more damage now. At 400 AP, we're talking 320 damage versus the 200 damage you got with the old ratio. That's worth (guess what) 2 stacks before damage falls off. With a full build you'll have somewhere in the range of 500-600 AP depending on items so if it ever reaches that point your damage increase with a Rift will be pretty good before a certain number of stacks (likely won't build them though without blue buff, even then it's not a great idea).

In the end, it's a buff until about 3 stacks, then nerfed at 150+ AP. Then again, who the fuck uses Riftwalk to kill shit except when chasing or when someone is out of position? Doesn't really affect him that much, mostly at level 6.

On July 15 2012 05:08 JackDino wrote:

Lategame veigar kills 1 target with Q+R then another target with DFG+Q

On July 15 2012 07:52 gtrsrs wrote:
earthrune skarner is one of the 5 best skins in the game

On July 15 2012 09:34 Lorken wrote:
There's a guy arguing with me on Facebook saying Tristana's W is broken, her E should be able to toggle the passive and her R shouldn't knockback. I am at a loss for words. Any suggestions on what to say? The one thing he said that sounded sane was that she should have some AD ratios, it would be nice but I don't think it's necessary for her and would probably just break her.

On July 15 2012 09:34 Lorken wrote:
There's a guy arguing with me on Facebook saying Tristana's W is broken, her E should be able to toggle the passive and her R shouldn't knockback. I am at a loss for words. Any suggestions on what to say? The one thing he said that sounded sane was that she should have some AD ratios, it would be nice but I don't think it's necessary for her and would probably just break her.

On July 15 2012 09:34 Lorken wrote:
There's a guy arguing with me on Facebook saying Tristana's W is broken, her E should be able to toggle the passive and her R shouldn't knockback. I am at a loss for words. Any suggestions on what to say? The one thing he said that sounded sane was that she should have some AD ratios, it would be nice but I don't think it's necessary for her and would probably just break her.

On July 15 2012 09:37 arb wrote:

Being able to toggle her e would be pretty awesome, not gonna lie

On July 15 2012 09:55 Lorken wrote:


I think it would just make it more clumsy/cluttered. How would you even toggle it? It's rather unnecessary as well I think. Think about it, how would she make her bullets explode on minute and not explode the next?