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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 14 2012 20:17 GMT
#1961
On July 15 2012 04:46 Craton wrote:
Maokai available skins all suck ass. Skarner too.

I like the red skarner skin its kinda cool.

Christmas tree maokai is the only good one -_-, but since you cant buy it anymore
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 14 2012 20:43 GMT
#1962
Dude, Maokai's cool by himself.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
July 14 2012 20:54 GMT
#1963
I dunno if someone discussed this, but I noticed that people considered the Kassadin change a nerf. It actually is a buff with a 0.8 AP ratio up from 0.5.

Assuming you don't get zoned out and denied (and that hurts Kassadin really hard anyway as he needs to be able to burst up a carry).

Say you have 200 AP. Before you would just get 100 extra damage on a walk. Now you get 160. 60 damage difference in the AP alone, which will yield overall more damage if you have level 2 Riftwalk (probably will), but with 20 less damage now, it's actually 40 more damage, which is worth 2 stacks before you go below the damage pre-change, then it's nerfed and your mana is going to suffer a lot so it isn't really wise to build up 3+ stacks at that point.

Level 1 Riftwalk will now do more damage than before. So he's more threatening at 6 (not by much I guess, since Rift is usually used to get in range for a Q->E combo) with teleporting.

If you hit lategame and get 400-500 AP, you will be doing much more damage now. At 400 AP, we're talking 320 damage versus the 200 damage you got with the old ratio. That's worth (guess what) 2 stacks before damage falls off. With a full build you'll have somewhere in the range of 500-600 AP depending on items so if it ever reaches that point your damage increase with a Rift will be pretty good before a certain number of stacks (likely won't build them though without blue buff, even then it's not a great idea).

In the end, it's a buff until about 3 stacks, then nerfed at 150+ AP. Then again, who the fuck uses Riftwalk to kill shit except when chasing or when someone is out of position? Doesn't really affect him that much, mostly at level 6.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 14 2012 21:17 GMT
#1964
On July 15 2012 05:54 RageOverdose wrote:
I dunno if someone discussed this, but I noticed that people considered the Kassadin change a nerf. It actually is a buff with a 0.8 AP ratio up from 0.5.

Assuming you don't get zoned out and denied (and that hurts Kassadin really hard anyway as he needs to be able to burst up a carry).

Say you have 200 AP. Before you would just get 100 extra damage on a walk. Now you get 160. 60 damage difference in the AP alone, which will yield overall more damage if you have level 2 Riftwalk (probably will), but with 20 less damage now, it's actually 40 more damage, which is worth 2 stacks before you go below the damage pre-change, then it's nerfed and your mana is going to suffer a lot so it isn't really wise to build up 3+ stacks at that point.

Level 1 Riftwalk will now do more damage than before. So he's more threatening at 6 (not by much I guess, since Rift is usually used to get in range for a Q->E combo) with teleporting.

If you hit lategame and get 400-500 AP, you will be doing much more damage now. At 400 AP, we're talking 320 damage versus the 200 damage you got with the old ratio. That's worth (guess what) 2 stacks before damage falls off. With a full build you'll have somewhere in the range of 500-600 AP depending on items so if it ever reaches that point your damage increase with a Rift will be pretty good before a certain number of stacks (likely won't build them though without blue buff, even then it's not a great idea).

In the end, it's a buff until about 3 stacks, then nerfed at 150+ AP. Then again, who the fuck uses Riftwalk to kill shit except when chasing or when someone is out of position? Doesn't really affect him that much, mostly at level 6.

That's what i thought when I saw it, its unlikely you'll be using 4++ stacks of riftwalk either way
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
July 14 2012 21:24 GMT
#1965
On July 15 2012 05:08 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 19:49 Cloud9157 wrote:
Once you buy QSS don't you pretty much stop him from killing you? Don't play him, but I doubt he can get off w+q+ult+dfg all before you get out of it.

Lategame veigar kills 1 target with Q+R then another target with DFG+Q

Yes if your entire team buys 0 MR items...

I feel like we had this conversation before if Veigar is 1 shotting 2 of your people at once it probably means the game has been lost long before or you're buildling dumb items
TranslatorBaa!
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
July 14 2012 21:29 GMT
#1966
streaming. watch me play and give me advice on how to improve :o

http://www.own3d.tv/xperplex/live/347685
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
July 14 2012 22:20 GMT
#1967
LoCicero raping as Panth on OddOnes stream right now.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 14 2012 22:40 GMT
#1968
That's hilarious. Apparently TOO sees him as their leader too, wants his head.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 14 2012 22:52 GMT
#1969
earthrune skarner is one of the 5 best skins in the game
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 23:19:16
July 14 2012 23:14 GMT
#1970
TOO against Loci again (on Ryze). Talking about his triple gp5 + gp5 runes on jungle Nunu "we don't want early randuin's or shurelya, we want to keep those items and make money, we are the 1%". I laughed.

His top is CaptainAmerica's Jax. Teamfight, Jax chases, TOO dies: "America's leaving the 1%". Damn. >>
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 14 2012 23:32 GMT
#1971
Jeez Loci elo boosted himself, he was 1900 when he was streaming just a couple weeks ago.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 14 2012 23:34 GMT
#1972
Did the 2nd Q/A with tsm alrdy happen? I had my stream in the BG but watched NASL.

First one wasnt that good though^^
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 15 2012 00:32 GMT
#1973
On July 15 2012 07:52 gtrsrs wrote:
earthrune skarner is one of the 5 best skins in the game

It's okay I wouldnt go as far as calling it top 5 though
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Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
July 15 2012 00:34 GMT
#1974
There's a guy arguing with me on Facebook saying Tristana's W is broken, her E should be able to toggle the passive and her R shouldn't knockback. I am at a loss for words. Any suggestions on what to say? The one thing he said that sounded sane was that she should have some AD ratios, it would be nice but I don't think it's necessary for her and would probably just break her.
LOUD NOISES!!!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 15 2012 00:37 GMT
#1975
On July 15 2012 09:34 Lorken wrote:
There's a guy arguing with me on Facebook saying Tristana's W is broken, her E should be able to toggle the passive and her R shouldn't knockback. I am at a loss for words. Any suggestions on what to say? The one thing he said that sounded sane was that she should have some AD ratios, it would be nice but I don't think it's necessary for her and would probably just break her.

Being able to toggle her e would be pretty awesome, not gonna lie
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 00:39:11
July 15 2012 00:38 GMT
#1976
On July 15 2012 09:34 Lorken wrote:
There's a guy arguing with me on Facebook saying Tristana's W is broken, her E should be able to toggle the passive and her R shouldn't knockback. I am at a loss for words. Any suggestions on what to say? The one thing he said that sounded sane was that she should have some AD ratios, it would be nice but I don't think it's necessary for her and would probably just break her.

AD ratios would probably make her midgame a lot less awkward, but if they didn't hit the base values her early game would be retardedly strong, and if they did change the numbers to compensate (which they would) it would take away Tristana's unique power curve (strong early, weak mid, strong late)
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 15 2012 00:39 GMT
#1977
On July 15 2012 09:34 Lorken wrote:
There's a guy arguing with me on Facebook saying Tristana's W is broken, her E should be able to toggle the passive and her R shouldn't knockback. I am at a loss for words. Any suggestions on what to say? The one thing he said that sounded sane was that she should have some AD ratios, it would be nice but I don't think it's necessary for her and would probably just break her.


If Trist had AD ratios she would be the best AD in the game bar none lol
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
July 15 2012 00:55 GMT
#1978
On July 15 2012 09:37 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 09:34 Lorken wrote:
There's a guy arguing with me on Facebook saying Tristana's W is broken, her E should be able to toggle the passive and her R shouldn't knockback. I am at a loss for words. Any suggestions on what to say? The one thing he said that sounded sane was that she should have some AD ratios, it would be nice but I don't think it's necessary for her and would probably just break her.

Being able to toggle her e would be pretty awesome, not gonna lie


I think it would just make it more clumsy/cluttered. How would you even toggle it? It's rather unnecessary as well I think. Think about it, how would she make her bullets explode on minute and not explode the next?
LOUD NOISES!!!
Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
July 15 2012 00:56 GMT
#1979
On July 15 2012 09:55 Lorken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 09:37 arb wrote:
On July 15 2012 09:34 Lorken wrote:
There's a guy arguing with me on Facebook saying Tristana's W is broken, her E should be able to toggle the passive and her R shouldn't knockback. I am at a loss for words. Any suggestions on what to say? The one thing he said that sounded sane was that she should have some AD ratios, it would be nice but I don't think it's necessary for her and would probably just break her.

Being able to toggle her e would be pretty awesome, not gonna lie


I think it would just make it more clumsy/cluttered. How would you even toggle it? It's rather unnecessary as well I think. Think about it, how would she make her bullets explode on minute and not explode the next?


When you think about how much easier it will be to lane/not push, toggling sounds great, but I think it's just a part of what makes trist. Players learn how to use it, and the added difficulty and nuances make the champion cooler imo.
"What I'm sayin' is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know we don't know." | SC2: NoiSe.730 | LoL: Galladiator
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 01:08:52
July 15 2012 01:04 GMT
#1980
Hey guys there a nice little tournament someone is organizing for 1600 elo and below players.(never been above 1700) Seems like no prize but there might be a victorious Ryze, not sure. I'm 1500 something elo and would love to find some others here to play with. Let me know if there is any interest, could be fun.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2357172

Edit: The prizes include RP for top 4 team and triumphant Ryze so its a great opportunity. The seedings is based on average elo so nearer to 1600 elo might be advantageous.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
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