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epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
July 14 2012 15:17 GMT
#1921
I don't get how theyre remaking the "too strong in low elo and useless in high" aspect of xin. Seems they just buffed him with the passive and ultimate
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 14 2012 15:18 GMT
#1922
On July 15 2012 00:03 Nightmare-br wrote:
Hey guys I just bought Twisted Fate and was wondering some things. I know there is thread about him but I would have to bump it and it´s a very simple question.

When you use gate to gank other lanes and you need that yellow card, you first pick the card and then teleport into them, or do you use gate and then pick the card?

start the card before you gate and lock in during the teleport animation
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 14 2012 15:18 GMT
#1923
On July 14 2012 13:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 13:17 LaNague wrote:
i was so happy hen they slowed down patches, but now they remake like 4 champions and add another one in a single patch, they learned nothing.

to be fair, 2 of those remakes were announced like half a year ago. one of those has been pretty shitty/underplayed for the longest time. where's the fourth remake? malz? that's not a remake; it's more of qol changes.

zyra
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
July 14 2012 15:19 GMT
#1924
On July 15 2012 00:03 Nightmare-br wrote:
Hey guys I just bought Twisted Fate and was wondering some things. I know there is thread about him but I would have to bump it and it´s a very simple question.

When you use gate to gank other lanes and you need that yellow card, you first pick the card and then teleport into them, or do you use gate and then pick the card?


I get in range, pick yellow card and teleport asap.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 14 2012 15:21 GMT
#1925
Whats the benefit of walking back a tiny bit when doing the jungle? does it really save you a noticeable amount of hp or is it very minimal?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 14 2012 15:21 GMT
#1926
ggClassic tournament is starting right now.

http://de.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/wjq4u/in_two_hours_the_ggclassic_group_a_goes_live_with/
http://ggchronicle.com/ggclassic/

stream: http://www.own3d.tv/ggChronicle/live/249584

Should be a good tournament, only downside is that some teams have to play with latency from korea.
Off-season = best season
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 14 2012 15:32 GMT
#1927
On July 15 2012 00:21 arb wrote:
Whats the benefit of walking back a tiny bit when doing the jungle? does it really save you a noticeable amount of hp or is it very minimal?

It doesn't help unless you're ranged to take less damage but if you do it right you can get to the next camp faster. One time recently, my leasher got the blue buff and lizards to go to the brush, then the lizards blocked the blue and I killed blue taking like two hits. Was pretty nice.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 14 2012 15:41 GMT
#1928
On July 15 2012 00:18 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 13:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 14 2012 13:17 LaNague wrote:
i was so happy hen they slowed down patches, but now they remake like 4 champions and add another one in a single patch, they learned nothing.

to be fair, 2 of those remakes were announced like half a year ago. one of those has been pretty shitty/underplayed for the longest time. where's the fourth remake? malz? that's not a remake; it's more of qol changes.

zyra

he said they remade 4 champions and added another one. Eve, Twitch, Xin remade. Zyra added. What's the fourth remake?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 14 2012 15:45 GMT
#1929
On July 15 2012 00:41 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 00:18 obesechicken13 wrote:
On July 14 2012 13:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 14 2012 13:17 LaNague wrote:
i was so happy hen they slowed down patches, but now they remake like 4 champions and add another one in a single patch, they learned nothing.

to be fair, 2 of those remakes were announced like half a year ago. one of those has been pretty shitty/underplayed for the longest time. where's the fourth remake? malz? that's not a remake; it's more of qol changes.

zyra

he said they remade 4 champions and added another one. Eve, Twitch, Xin remade. Zyra added. What's the fourth remake?

Ah. my bad. move along.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 16:11:08
July 14 2012 16:03 GMT
#1930
krepo steals the penta with the bananas! :D

the stream crashes very often. Is it only me or does somebody else have this problem?
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 14 2012 16:16 GMT
#1931
For Panth vs Malph, assume even skill of course, that was the idea of the match-up more than personal experience.

About the jungle and walking back, you can kind of kite with melee champs, and casters and AoE clearers (Maokai's Q, Udyr's phoenix stance cone AoE... ) lining up the creeps, especially the wolves, help hitting the whole camp.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 16:25:58
July 14 2012 16:23 GMT
#1932
On July 15 2012 00:13 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 23:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 14 2012 23:25 TheBJ wrote:
On July 14 2012 22:24 arb wrote:
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.

good luck with pulling jungle karthus off vs someone with half a brain.

you'll never manage to achieve anything, better off just laning him


Thats absolutely wrong , jungle karthus has one of the fastest clear times and is often played at the 2300+ bracket in euw. He has fallen off popularity now but there was a time where he was picked every third game. Even snoopeh played him quite often.

jungle karthus gets wrecked by counterjunglers early on. he's very very squishy and super reliant on blue buff. jungle karth was somewhat viable when everyone was playing farm-y junglers.

On July 14 2012 23:33 Dgiese wrote:
On July 14 2012 21:32 Alaric wrote:
Ended up with Sona on an ARAM yesterday, started tear+boots and manamune+calice after first death, she's so OP. And now they'll allow her to chain skills even faster provided she's got some CDR? Wow.
I'm sad about the ult change tho, how do I sneakily ks without the DoT ticking during the focus?

Also last time I wanted to try and train my Ori I went up against an AP Trist. Made the mistake to stand too close to my minions while trying to get a last hit, ate 2-3 E passive damage when she killed mine, then despite chugging a pot I was dead at level 2, and after that there was literally nothing I could do, that was like playing Pantheon against a Malphite coming to lane with an abyssal scepter. So frustrating. :<

Wait, what? You mean glacial shroud, right? And even then you can still win with smart hss.

iunno man...Panth v. Malphite is pretty freaking one sided unless you COMPLETELY outskill your opponent and/or have jungle camping.

Maybe one day I can have the pleasure of facing jungle Karthus, I can't imagine him doing anything vs someone like udyr or mundo or something. who could just invade and shit on him at any time really


karthus is pretty weak to counterjungling, but wop can let him make a getaway pretty easily. if you play smart, you can also get in a little conterjungling whenever you see the other jungler is out of position b/c you clear so fast. ruins shyv's day when she comes back from a failed gank and all she has is the puny golem and a little wraith.

of course, i played with a jungle karthus yesterday who was absolutely terrible, but that's a different story.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 14 2012 16:41 GMT
#1933
On July 15 2012 01:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 00:13 arb wrote:
On July 14 2012 23:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 14 2012 23:25 TheBJ wrote:
On July 14 2012 22:24 arb wrote:
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.

good luck with pulling jungle karthus off vs someone with half a brain.

you'll never manage to achieve anything, better off just laning him


Thats absolutely wrong , jungle karthus has one of the fastest clear times and is often played at the 2300+ bracket in euw. He has fallen off popularity now but there was a time where he was picked every third game. Even snoopeh played him quite often.

jungle karthus gets wrecked by counterjunglers early on. he's very very squishy and super reliant on blue buff. jungle karth was somewhat viable when everyone was playing farm-y junglers.

On July 14 2012 23:33 Dgiese wrote:
On July 14 2012 21:32 Alaric wrote:
Ended up with Sona on an ARAM yesterday, started tear+boots and manamune+calice after first death, she's so OP. And now they'll allow her to chain skills even faster provided she's got some CDR? Wow.
I'm sad about the ult change tho, how do I sneakily ks without the DoT ticking during the focus?

Also last time I wanted to try and train my Ori I went up against an AP Trist. Made the mistake to stand too close to my minions while trying to get a last hit, ate 2-3 E passive damage when she killed mine, then despite chugging a pot I was dead at level 2, and after that there was literally nothing I could do, that was like playing Pantheon against a Malphite coming to lane with an abyssal scepter. So frustrating. :<

Wait, what? You mean glacial shroud, right? And even then you can still win with smart hss.

iunno man...Panth v. Malphite is pretty freaking one sided unless you COMPLETELY outskill your opponent and/or have jungle camping.

Maybe one day I can have the pleasure of facing jungle Karthus, I can't imagine him doing anything vs someone like udyr or mundo or something. who could just invade and shit on him at any time really


karthus is pretty weak to counterjungling, but wop can let him make a getaway pretty easily. if you play smart, you can also get in a little conterjungling whenever you see the other jungler is out of position b/c you clear so fast. ruins shyv's day when she comes back from a failed gank and all she has is the puny golem and a little wraith.

of course, i played with a jungle karthus yesterday who was absolutely terrible, but that's a different story.

figured as much.

also do you spell vamp off sunfire cape?(been wondering this for ages)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 14 2012 16:47 GMT
#1934
nope
cool beans
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 14 2012 16:57 GMT
#1935
So I've been trying out Zyra on the PBE and she actually does pretty good damage even though the numbers might not look like it at first. She is all skill shots but her root is easy to land because it goes through minions and its travel speed is really fast. Her seeds don't cost any mana either, so pretty much every time you land your E you are then able to follow up with WQ. She doesn't seem to have any mana problems either, and her auto attack animation is quite good. I've been going 2dring -> deathcap but I really don't think she needs the mana regen at all.

land E -> WQR is a lot of burst damage.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 14 2012 17:03 GMT
#1936
WEWQR not possible?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 14 2012 17:08 GMT
#1937
I've been wondering since I'm not on the PBE, are the melee plants worth using at all? All I ever see are the ranged guys.
It's your boy Guzma!
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 14 2012 17:09 GMT
#1938
On July 15 2012 00:17 epoc wrote:
I don't get how theyre remaking the "too strong in low elo and useless in high" aspect of xin. Seems they just buffed him with the passive and ultimate

They're lowering his cdr gain upon getting fed levels of attack speed, while making his ult more useful regardless of fed status.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 14 2012 17:19 GMT
#1939
On July 15 2012 02:03 Alaric wrote:
WEWQR not possible?

E has a travel time while W basically doesn't iirc. So it's possible to EWWQ and have the first seed drop and get spawned. Then follow with another seed, since you can store up to 2 seeds. Follow up with Q. R if you're committing/teamfighting.

I feel that Zyra's ulti would be sick with stuff like Amumu ult or Kennen ult. If nothing, it'll cause hella disruption since the team has to run out of the aoe or get knocked up and the aoe is pretty big.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 14 2012 17:21 GMT
#1940
Fucking hell, I just impulse bought Amumu to jungle with, not realizing he's free this week. Dumb dumb dumb.
It's your boy Guzma!
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