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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 11:45:00
July 14 2012 11:40 GMT
#1901
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.


Late game bird is the same as pretty much any stage bird, except she does more damage late game obviously. Her utility is just ridiculously consistent, especially when you have lvl 5 wall. She doesn't deal the damage Karthus does, but he doesn't have her utility, so it kinda offsets to me.

Ryze is a tanky mofo late game.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1902
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.


Dont know if I understood right but I think you're doing something wrong if you are consistenly shoved under your own turret as Karthus.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
July 14 2012 12:03 GMT
#1903
On July 14 2012 20:52 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.


Dont know if I understood right but I think you're doing something wrong if you are consistenly shoved under your own turret as Karthus.


I'm guessing he means getting zoned, which is pretty hard to do to him. Q range OP.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 12:35:20
July 14 2012 12:32 GMT
#1904
Ended up with Sona on an ARAM yesterday, started tear+boots and manamune+calice after first death, she's so OP. And now they'll allow her to chain skills even faster provided she's got some CDR? Wow.
I'm sad about the ult change tho, how do I sneakily ks without the DoT ticking during the focus?

Also last time I wanted to try and train my Ori I went up against an AP Trist. Made the mistake to stand too close to my minions while trying to get a last hit, ate 2-3 E passive damage when she killed mine, then despite chugging a pot I was dead at level 2, and after that there was literally nothing I could do, that was like playing Pantheon against a Malphite coming to lane with an abyssal scepter. So frustrating. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
July 14 2012 12:39 GMT
#1905
I'm pretty sure some rioter said that although E passive is getting the AP ratio, the passive triggering from her abilities is unintentional and is going to get fixed. Its only supposed to proc from her auto killing the creep. So no more tristana jumping into the minion wave and one-shotting you which practically kills AP trist.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 12:55:49
July 14 2012 12:53 GMT
#1906
On July 14 2012 20:52 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.


Dont know if I understood right but I think you're doing something wrong if you are consistenly shoved under your own turret as Karthus.

When flash has a long cd and your escape sucks and limited mana pool compared to common pushing champions you need that tower to protect you before your smarties start to chunk away their health. After Catalyst + Blue you will be fine.

On July 14 2012 20:40 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.


Late game bird is the same as pretty much any stage bird, except she does more damage late game obviously. Her utility is just ridiculously consistent, especially when you have lvl 5 wall. She doesn't deal the damage Karthus does, but he doesn't have her utility, so it kinda offsets to me.

Ryze is a tanky mofo late game.


That is sorta what I am mean the difference between Karthus and bird is not big enough that the sheer amount of cc that bird can put out is nullified by the damage difference. Ryze is all about hitting key targets late game which is insanely hard with Karthus.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 14 2012 13:09 GMT
#1907
I just noticed on the forums that they are retiring all the shitty legendaries... So much for the magnificent tf remakes and stuff D:
BW -> League -> CSGO
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
July 14 2012 13:14 GMT
#1908
On July 14 2012 22:09 wussleeQ wrote:
I just noticed on the forums that they are retiring all the shitty legendaries... So much for the magnificent tf remakes and stuff D:

And they are not even putting them on sale, which is disappointing considering they are basically saying that the legendary skins are not good enough anymore to be sold thus being retired.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 14 2012 13:20 GMT
#1909
On July 14 2012 22:14 Schnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 22:09 wussleeQ wrote:
I just noticed on the forums that they are retiring all the shitty legendaries... So much for the magnificent tf remakes and stuff D:

And they are not even putting them on sale, which is disappointing considering they are basically saying that the legendary skins are not good enough anymore to be sold thus being retired.

Yeah lol. Not even an announcement.. just a thread on the forums. Going out quietly >_>
BW -> League -> CSGO
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 14 2012 13:24 GMT
#1910
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.

good luck with pulling jungle karthus off vs someone with half a brain.

you'll never manage to achieve anything, better off just laning him
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
July 14 2012 14:25 GMT
#1911
On July 14 2012 22:24 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.

good luck with pulling jungle karthus off vs someone with half a brain.

you'll never manage to achieve anything, better off just laning him


Thats absolutely wrong , jungle karthus has one of the fastest clear times and is often played at the 2300+ bracket in euw. He has fallen off popularity now but there was a time where he was picked every third game. Even snoopeh played him quite often.
Ad augusta per angust
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 14:39:58
July 14 2012 14:29 GMT
#1912
nvm
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 14 2012 14:33 GMT
#1913
On July 14 2012 21:32 Alaric wrote:
Ended up with Sona on an ARAM yesterday, started tear+boots and manamune+calice after first death, she's so OP. And now they'll allow her to chain skills even faster provided she's got some CDR? Wow.
I'm sad about the ult change tho, how do I sneakily ks without the DoT ticking during the focus?

Also last time I wanted to try and train my Ori I went up against an AP Trist. Made the mistake to stand too close to my minions while trying to get a last hit, ate 2-3 E passive damage when she killed mine, then despite chugging a pot I was dead at level 2, and after that there was literally nothing I could do, that was like playing Pantheon against a Malphite coming to lane with an abyssal scepter. So frustrating. :<

Wait, what? You mean glacial shroud, right? And even then you can still win with smart hss.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 14 2012 14:45 GMT
#1914
I just had a game against mouz dax and beat him in lane '-' Teemo vs Malphite
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 14:48:48
July 14 2012 14:47 GMT
#1915
On July 14 2012 23:25 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 22:24 arb wrote:
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.

good luck with pulling jungle karthus off vs someone with half a brain.

you'll never manage to achieve anything, better off just laning him


Thats absolutely wrong , jungle karthus has one of the fastest clear times and is often played at the 2300+ bracket in euw. He has fallen off popularity now but there was a time where he was picked every third game. Even snoopeh played him quite often.

jungle karthus gets wrecked by counterjunglers early on. he's very very squishy and super reliant on blue buff. jungle karth was somewhat viable when everyone was playing farm-y junglers.

On July 14 2012 23:33 Dgiese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 21:32 Alaric wrote:
Ended up with Sona on an ARAM yesterday, started tear+boots and manamune+calice after first death, she's so OP. And now they'll allow her to chain skills even faster provided she's got some CDR? Wow.
I'm sad about the ult change tho, how do I sneakily ks without the DoT ticking during the focus?

Also last time I wanted to try and train my Ori I went up against an AP Trist. Made the mistake to stand too close to my minions while trying to get a last hit, ate 2-3 E passive damage when she killed mine, then despite chugging a pot I was dead at level 2, and after that there was literally nothing I could do, that was like playing Pantheon against a Malphite coming to lane with an abyssal scepter. So frustrating. :<

Wait, what? You mean glacial shroud, right? And even then you can still win with smart hss.

iunno man...Panth v. Malphite is pretty freaking one sided unless you COMPLETELY outskill your opponent and/or have jungle camping.
Rookie6
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil583 Posts
July 14 2012 15:03 GMT
#1916
Hey guys I just bought Twisted Fate and was wondering some things. I know there is thread about him but I would have to bump it and it´s a very simple question.

When you use gate to gank other lanes and you need that yellow card, you first pick the card and then teleport into them, or do you use gate and then pick the card?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 14 2012 15:03 GMT
#1917
Malphite in general is very strong at the moment, after hazard played him alot at MLG I see a Malph in every 2nd game now... Like earlier today we had a relatively even game with me being even with Ryze vs Ahri mid and Malph top doing ok vs singed, with a few kills here and there, there was an unlucky engagement though at dragon where the enemy vayne got 4 kills and started to wreck our team.

Told malph to just ult Vayne even if hes standing alone, flash rune prison >GG that ult+ AS debuff on ad carries is just too strong. Too bad they are nerfing him though, just bought glacial malphite wtf!
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 14 2012 15:05 GMT
#1918
On July 14 2012 23:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 23:25 TheBJ wrote:
On July 14 2012 22:24 arb wrote:
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.

good luck with pulling jungle karthus off vs someone with half a brain.

you'll never manage to achieve anything, better off just laning him


Thats absolutely wrong , jungle karthus has one of the fastest clear times and is often played at the 2300+ bracket in euw. He has fallen off popularity now but there was a time where he was picked every third game. Even snoopeh played him quite often.

jungle karthus gets wrecked by counterjunglers early on. he's very very squishy and super reliant on blue buff. jungle karth was somewhat viable when everyone was playing farm-y junglers.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 23:33 Dgiese wrote:
On July 14 2012 21:32 Alaric wrote:
Ended up with Sona on an ARAM yesterday, started tear+boots and manamune+calice after first death, she's so OP. And now they'll allow her to chain skills even faster provided she's got some CDR? Wow.
I'm sad about the ult change tho, how do I sneakily ks without the DoT ticking during the focus?

Also last time I wanted to try and train my Ori I went up against an AP Trist. Made the mistake to stand too close to my minions while trying to get a last hit, ate 2-3 E passive damage when she killed mine, then despite chugging a pot I was dead at level 2, and after that there was literally nothing I could do, that was like playing Pantheon against a Malphite coming to lane with an abyssal scepter. So frustrating. :<

Wait, what? You mean glacial shroud, right? And even then you can still win with smart hss.

iunno man...Panth v. Malphite is pretty freaking one sided unless you COMPLETELY outskill your opponent and/or have jungle camping.

Yea, but he's playing at around the 1300-1400 level, so outs killing your opponent is a very real possibility. In general vs malls as panth sucks, hard. But it's not necessarily an auto loss, especially not in lower Elos where everyone makes mistakes.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 14 2012 15:06 GMT
#1919
On July 15 2012 00:03 Nightmare-br wrote:
Hey guys I just bought Twisted Fate and was wondering some things. I know there is thread about him but I would have to bump it and it´s a very simple question.

When you use gate to gank other lanes and you need that yellow card, you first pick the card and then teleport into them, or do you use gate and then pick the card?

Card and then gate.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 14 2012 15:13 GMT
#1920
On July 14 2012 23:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 23:25 TheBJ wrote:
On July 14 2012 22:24 arb wrote:
On July 14 2012 20:29 Eppa! wrote:
On July 14 2012 18:24 VirgilSC2 wrote:
So......Karthus is retardedly OP right?

I got stuck with a 4 man premade in a normal draft earlier.....decided to trollpick Revive/Teleport Karthus Support after they were massive dicks to me in champ select.

A stole almost every single CS from our AD, got really farmed really fast and just started destroying everything.

Blitz even helped me out by hooking me into their team a few times.

It was really, really, really fun.

Karthus is really strong. I have been playing some jungle Karthus in normals its a lot of fun. The thing is he sucks until level 7ish against any mid champ so you are mostly farming undertower if you play him normaly.

Still Articuno and Ryze scale better into lategame teamfights.

good luck with pulling jungle karthus off vs someone with half a brain.

you'll never manage to achieve anything, better off just laning him


Thats absolutely wrong , jungle karthus has one of the fastest clear times and is often played at the 2300+ bracket in euw. He has fallen off popularity now but there was a time where he was picked every third game. Even snoopeh played him quite often.

jungle karthus gets wrecked by counterjunglers early on. he's very very squishy and super reliant on blue buff. jungle karth was somewhat viable when everyone was playing farm-y junglers.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 23:33 Dgiese wrote:
On July 14 2012 21:32 Alaric wrote:
Ended up with Sona on an ARAM yesterday, started tear+boots and manamune+calice after first death, she's so OP. And now they'll allow her to chain skills even faster provided she's got some CDR? Wow.
I'm sad about the ult change tho, how do I sneakily ks without the DoT ticking during the focus?

Also last time I wanted to try and train my Ori I went up against an AP Trist. Made the mistake to stand too close to my minions while trying to get a last hit, ate 2-3 E passive damage when she killed mine, then despite chugging a pot I was dead at level 2, and after that there was literally nothing I could do, that was like playing Pantheon against a Malphite coming to lane with an abyssal scepter. So frustrating. :<

Wait, what? You mean glacial shroud, right? And even then you can still win with smart hss.

iunno man...Panth v. Malphite is pretty freaking one sided unless you COMPLETELY outskill your opponent and/or have jungle camping.

Maybe one day I can have the pleasure of facing jungle Karthus, I can't imagine him doing anything vs someone like udyr or mundo or something. who could just invade and shit on him at any time really
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