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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
July 14 2012 17:23 GMT
#1941
On July 15 2012 02:21 Requizen wrote:
Fucking hell, I just impulse bought Amumu to jungle with, not realizing he's free this week. Dumb dumb dumb.


It is okay, just play him for more than a week and your purchase will be justified.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 14 2012 17:31 GMT
#1942
On July 15 2012 02:21 Requizen wrote:
Fucking hell, I just impulse bought Amumu to jungle with, not realizing he's free this week. Dumb dumb dumb.

lol I just did the same with with Renekton. At least Amumu is cheap.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 14 2012 17:32 GMT
#1943
On July 15 2012 02:19 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 02:03 Alaric wrote:
WEWQR not possible?

E has a travel time while W basically doesn't iirc. So it's possible to EWWQ and have the first seed drop and get spawned. Then follow with another seed, since you can store up to 2 seeds. Follow up with Q. R if you're committing/teamfighting.

I feel that Zyra's ulti would be sick with stuff like Amumu ult or Kennen ult. If nothing, it'll cause hella disruption since the team has to run out of the aoe or get knocked up and the aoe is pretty big.

I just played another game and realized that if I EW fast then the first seed gets spawned by the W, like you said. I'll have to try her out more, but she's a lot easier to play than I thought she would be.
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
July 14 2012 17:49 GMT
#1944
On July 15 2012 00:03 Nightmare-br wrote:
Hey guys I just bought Twisted Fate and was wondering some things. I know there is thread about him but I would have to bump it and it´s a very simple question.

When you use gate to gank other lanes and you need that yellow card, you first pick the card and then teleport into them, or do you use gate and then pick the card?

I tell jungler gate CD when it's ~30s, scout for openings when gate CD is ~10s, then push lane, get into range without enemy mid vision, gate, start pick, end pick, gate finishes.
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
July 14 2012 17:50 GMT
#1945
Has anyone tried AD malz + nunu bot?

Especially after the voidling AI fix it should be a lot nicer.

I recently played a hilarious blind pick normal game where I went nunu top and AD malz was jungle; blood boiled voidlings are pretty damn hilarious.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 17:55:54
July 14 2012 17:55 GMT
#1946
AP JANNA srsly Op, Morgana had no chance to waveclear as fast as me ^^
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 14 2012 18:21 GMT
#1947
On July 15 2012 02:55 AsnSensation wrote:
AP JANNA srsly Op, Morgana had no chance to waveclear as fast as me ^^

Yeah, but then you get to late game, and you do the same thing as support Janna, robbing your team of an actual AP carry. Which is fine if your top/jungle can do enough damage to make up for it, but I generally like a heavy hitter mid.
It's your boy Guzma!
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 14 2012 18:29 GMT
#1948
On July 15 2012 03:21 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 02:55 AsnSensation wrote:
AP JANNA srsly Op, Morgana had no chance to waveclear as fast as me ^^

Yeah, but then you get to late game, and you do the same thing as support Janna, robbing your team of an actual AP carry. Which is fine if your top/jungle can do enough damage to make up for it, but I generally like a heavy hitter mid.


In all fairness though, aside from ulti, morg and janna do pretty equivalent damage in a team fight.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 14 2012 18:33 GMT
#1949
why would you 'aside from ulti' when comparing damage in a team fight of all things
cool beans
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 14 2012 18:37 GMT
#1950
On July 15 2012 03:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
why would you 'aside from ulti' when comparing damage in a team fight of all things


Cause Janna can heal while Morg ulties one person I guess. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 14 2012 18:55 GMT
#1951
On July 15 2012 02:32 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 02:19 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 15 2012 02:03 Alaric wrote:
WEWQR not possible?

E has a travel time while W basically doesn't iirc. So it's possible to EWWQ and have the first seed drop and get spawned. Then follow with another seed, since you can store up to 2 seeds. Follow up with Q. R if you're committing/teamfighting.

I feel that Zyra's ulti would be sick with stuff like Amumu ult or Kennen ult. If nothing, it'll cause hella disruption since the team has to run out of the aoe or get knocked up and the aoe is pretty big.

I just played another game and realized that if I EW fast then the first seed gets spawned by the W, like you said. I'll have to try her out more, but she's a lot easier to play than I thought she would be.

Man I posted about this days ago but no one paid attention. QQ
People initially seem to think her teamfighting will be shitty because its all zone-oriented, but if you are fast enough to land her combo properly people won't be escaping from you when they're rooted-->slowed-->knocked up. Bonus points if you can drop two seeds into one E and/or hit multiple people with the root.
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
July 14 2012 19:09 GMT
#1952
On July 15 2012 03:21 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 02:55 AsnSensation wrote:
AP JANNA srsly Op, Morgana had no chance to waveclear as fast as me ^^

Yeah, but then you get to late game, and you do the same thing as support Janna, robbing your team of an actual AP carry. Which is fine if your top/jungle can do enough damage to make up for it, but I generally like a heavy hitter mid.


Uh, not really when you consider that Janna has reasonable ratios and with a properly positioned tornado can do terrible terrible damage to an enemy team.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 14 2012 19:16 GMT
#1953
On July 15 2012 04:09 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 03:21 Requizen wrote:
On July 15 2012 02:55 AsnSensation wrote:
AP JANNA srsly Op, Morgana had no chance to waveclear as fast as me ^^

Yeah, but then you get to late game, and you do the same thing as support Janna, robbing your team of an actual AP carry. Which is fine if your top/jungle can do enough damage to make up for it, but I generally like a heavy hitter mid.


Uh, not really when you consider that Janna has reasonable ratios and with a properly positioned tornado can do terrible terrible damage to an enemy team.


not to mention a .9 ratio on her shield. I don't know what to say here, solo lane Janna is completely worth it, esp if your ad carry wins lane.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 14 2012 19:25 GMT
#1954
Karma mid is godlike at protecting a bruiser in the middle of the enemy team, Janna mid is godlike at keeping all of your team full HP.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 14 2012 19:36 GMT
#1955
Want one of the fucking Maokai skins to go ons ale -_-, only wooder I don't have a skin for
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
July 14 2012 19:46 GMT
#1956
Maokai available skins all suck ass. Skarner too.
twitch.tv/cratonz
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 14 2012 19:47 GMT
#1957
On July 15 2012 04:36 arb wrote:
Want one of the fucking Maokai skins to go ons ale -_-, only wooder I don't have a skin for

har, I picked up the totemic one when it went on sale like a month ago or something.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 14 2012 19:50 GMT
#1958
On July 15 2012 04:46 Craton wrote:
Maokai available skins all suck ass. Skarner too.


Christmas Tree Maokai the only good skin, one of the reasons I picked it up. Hurling gift boxes at people even in july is fun. Sad when you think about it.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 14 2012 20:08 GMT
#1959
On July 14 2012 19:49 Cloud9157 wrote:
Once you buy QSS don't you pretty much stop him from killing you? Don't play him, but I doubt he can get off w+q+ult+dfg all before you get out of it.

Lategame veigar kills 1 target with Q+R then another target with DFG+Q
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 14 2012 20:10 GMT
#1960
On July 15 2012 04:46 Craton wrote:
Maokai available skins all suck ass. Skarner too.

wut totem is so cooool. skarner ya he needs skins.
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