EPT[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 261
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:19 arb wrote: I always thought Cass was pretty much an instant win vs Ryze? Not really an instant win. Cass does well against Ryze, but if you are good with Ryze you can at least split the lane. Early levels are tough, but Ryze supports ganks too well for Cass to be able to overextend. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On July 04 2012 23:46 daemir wrote: Play Fizz vs that Eve, take Tough Skin and Indomitable, then whatever, duel inside whatever minion wave and roll over Eve with your hybrid damage while having basicly same effect on minion damage as her? Or, play Trolibear. Press E and minions dont effect you. At all, level 1 take zero damages from minions. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On July 04 2012 23:15 Seuss wrote: My only contribution to this utterly inane Eve discussion is to point out that full Armor/MR pages are secret OP and everyone should have them. So many lanes become far less scary when you have 70+ of the appropriate defensive stat. There's really nothing special about Eve, full Armor/MR pages are just crazy. I've thoroughly enjoyed it when jungling Nautilus btw, thanks for the suggestion. <3 | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Alaric
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HereAndNow
United States185 Posts
I was thinking of getting Amumu, since he seems to have a lot of damage even building tanky, and a really strong initiate with his ult. Or do you have another suggestion? I like playing tankier guys, but I also want one that I can use to really win games hard. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And since he clears fast and can sustain himself with his ult+passive you can really be all over the place if you need, on top of being slippery enough to carry an oracle to seal the deal. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11722 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 05 2012 01:38 HereAndNow wrote: Who do you guys think is the most "carry" jungler? I like jungling a lot, but I feel like, even when I'm ahead, my lanes will die a lot and my lead can't do much. I generally play Naut, but even with all my tankiness and CC I can't force my team to play well. I was thinking of getting Amumu, since he seems to have a lot of damage even building tanky, and a really strong initiate with his ult. Or do you have another suggestion? I like playing tankier guys, but I also want one that I can use to really win games hard. If by "carry jungler" you mean a junger who farms lanes after early/midgame and then deals loads of damage in teamfights, Amumu is a good choice. I don't think there is anyone else in the jungle who scales that well. Nautilus is a good carry too, simply by having ridiculous base strength. Mundo becomes unstoppable once the game goes really late. | ||
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HereAndNow
United States185 Posts
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samthesaluki
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Simberto
Germany11722 Posts
On July 05 2012 01:49 HereAndNow wrote: I just find that with Naut, no matter how tanky I am, if my team is behind all my CC doesn't matter because they'll be too scared to fight even if I get a perfect engage. It just feels like, every time I gank a lane I secure a kill one way or another, but while I'm doing that one of the other two lanes just dies repeatedly, so I end up 4-0-7 but our team has 21 deaths anyway. I absolutely know that feeling, but there is really nothing you can do about that. No jungler can be at all lanes at once, and if the two you are not at are always losing, there is probably nothing you can do with any champ to salvage that game. Basically, i think the only type of champion that can really win a game alone are assassin-guys, since you NEED to be able to kill people alone fastly for that. And i can't really think of a good assassin-y jungler. Maybe Riven? Though she is more of a tanky dps, but still very scary if she gets fed. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
Shyvana can also carry really hard in the early and midgame. She gets pretty tanky with few items while doing a lot of aoe damage in teamfights. She's a lot stronger than Mundo at that point of the game. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On July 05 2012 01:38 HereAndNow wrote: Who do you guys think is the most "carry" jungler? I like jungling a lot, but I feel like, even when I'm ahead, my lanes will die a lot and my lead can't do much. I generally play Naut, but even with all my tankiness and CC I can't force my team to play well. I was thinking of getting Amumu, since he seems to have a lot of damage even building tanky, and a really strong initiate with his ult. Or do you have another suggestion? I like playing tankier guys, but I also want one that I can use to really win games hard. Twitch has the highest damage potential as an AD carry with a few AoE line attacks, an AS steroid, and that short AD steroid late game. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 05 2012 02:13 obesechicken13 wrote: Twitch has the highest damage potential as an AD carry with a few AoE line attacks, an AS steroid, and that short AD steroid late game. I remember the old twitch ult, unlimited attacks and that like 140% attack speed steroid. now twitch so useless -_- | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On July 05 2012 02:16 arb wrote: I remember the old twitch ult, unlimited attacks and that like 140% attack speed steroid. now twitch so useless -_- Twitch not useless. Just garbage in lane and bad at farming jungle. Is ganks stupid strong though, and good Jungle twitch just like wins all three lanes for his team. It kinda scary. | ||
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