EPT[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 48
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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DanielZKlein
United States1171 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On March 23 2012 01:53 turdburgler wrote: except they are all aoe so they suck for spell vamp ;p the problem with wota on amumu is you need to get a balance of tanky stats, boots, and if you want ap atleast 1 item must be deathcap i dont see where in a 6 item build you would get wota. AoE doesn't inherently mean spell vamp is bad, you just have to hit multiple targets. I'm not sure why you couldn't build Amumu exactly the same way people build Rumble. Rumble also has to balance his stats and nobody suggests for a moment that means there's no room for WotA. (Note: Most of Rumble's damage is also AoE) Same problem with jungle Fizz. It can technically work, but compared to the other options I mentioned it's weaker, slower, and less secure. It's possible there's a setup where they're stronger than what I've tried, but I haven't seen or experienced it. Jungle Singed could work. WotA isn't particularly great on him, but it is funny to see your health rising when the entire enemy team blindly chases you through your poison. | ||
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jadoth
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On March 23 2012 01:53 turdburgler wrote: except they are all aoe so they suck for spell vamp ;p the problem with wota on amumu is you need to get a balance of tanky stats, boots, and if you want ap atleast 1 item must be deathcap i dont see where in a 6 item build you would get wota. spellvamp is completely fine with aoe spells. the end game mumu build i usaly shoot for is tabi or mercs shurelia's frozenheart omen wota abyssal. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
Game almost over - he has gp5, boots, frozen heart, rylai, abyssal | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On March 23 2012 02:11 Sandster wrote: SV jungling hitler mumu now. Game almost over - he has gp5, boots, frozen heart, rylai, abyssal I approve of that build, it's roughly what I used to go for when I jungled mummy. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 23 2012 01:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Singed is pretty fun to do that with. Not sure if poison works with vamp. | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
I just saw this spread sheet on Reddit. It's a chart of Wickd's top lane match ups. Aparently Vlad, Cass, Trundle, and Pantheon are the guys you need to pick to shut Yorik down. The chart isn't finished, as I'm sure there is at least one more counter for Yorick. On March 23 2012 02:37 Inschato wrote: Support poppy might not win any serious games, but damn if she's not super fun. Especially with Vayne. Its like a Blitz support lane. One positional error and you're dead. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Also vamp works on poison trail, of course. | ||
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Peru1308 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On March 23 2012 02:38 Sabin010 wrote: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0Aj3YD8Rl_kDNdDZfM0k1M1pBa3U1MjRkOTVFekNVWHc&toomany=true#gid=0 I just saw this spread sheet on Reddit. It's a chart of Wickd's top lane match ups. Aparently Vlad, Cass, Trundle, and Pantheon are the guys you need to pick to shut Yorik down. The chart isn't finished, as I'm sure there is at least one more counter for Yorick. I disagree with a lot of this chart. Especially regarding Galio, sweet jesus he has a low opinion of Galio. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
I'm pretty sure it does. I think I remember testing it out with either T_D or gandhi a while back. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On March 23 2012 02:38 Sabin010 wrote: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0Aj3YD8Rl_kDNdDZfM0k1M1pBa3U1MjRkOTVFekNVWHc&toomany=true#gid=0 I just saw this spread sheet on Reddit. It's a chart of Wickd's top lane match ups. Aparently Vlad, Cass, Trundle, and Pantheon are the guys you need to pick to shut Yorik down. The chart isn't finished, as I'm sure there is at least one more counter for Yorick. Its like a Blitz support lane. One positional error and you're dead. Wtf. Yorick is the hardest hard counter to ever hard counter pantheon. There's absolutely nothing panth can do in that lane. Trundle is the clear counter to Yorick, though. His passive gives him tons of free health if yorick even tries to use his skills. Cass beats nearly everyone so that's believable. I'd also wager Lee Sin can beat Yorick if played correctly. | ||
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On March 23 2012 01:41 cLutZ wrote: Has anyone bought Lulu yet? Who are her comps? She's pretty strong with mf/ashe, someone who can abuse her speedboost/slow rly hard. She's incredibly fun to play with a decent ad carry, high ganking potential and post 6 you can just run lanes down. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On March 23 2012 02:48 TwoToneTerran wrote: Wtf. Yorick is the hardest hard counter to ever hard counter pantheon. There's absolutely nothing panth can do in that lane. that's definitely not true. I'll play vs. Yorick 10x in a row before playing against Malphite just once. But it's really stupid to say Pantheon counters Yorick while saying Irelia counters Pantheon in the same chart. writing a matchup chart for top is stupid anyway, no one has even close to enough experience in all those different matchups to talk. Even with thousands of games, I'll bet Wickd has played 75+% of those matchups 0-2 times, which is far too few to draw a conclusion about the outcome of them. | ||
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Erasme
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