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GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
March 22 2012 17:01 GMT
#941
Maokai would work as well.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
March 22 2012 17:02 GMT
#942
wait singed can jungle?
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
March 22 2012 17:03 GMT
#943
I remember Guinsoo used to jungle Singed in the old forest. The trick is turning your poison on and off to minimize mana usage.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 17:08:31
March 22 2012 17:03 GMT
#944
On March 23 2012 01:53 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:44 Seuss wrote:
Amumu is the strongest AP jungler hands down, and is thus the best candidate for a mid/jungler double WotA setup (he heals for a crapton with his ult + e + w).

You can also jungle Akali, but she requires a highly specialized rune page to be viable. Karthus, Cass, and Gragas can all jungle and are great candidates for WotA, but you'll really notice how difference jungle farm is from solo lane farm. Galio can also jungle but he's a fairly poor candidate for WotA.


except they are all aoe so they suck for spell vamp ;p

the problem with wota on amumu is you need to get a balance of tanky stats, boots, and if you want ap atleast 1 item must be deathcap i dont see where in a 6 item build you would get wota.


AoE doesn't inherently mean spell vamp is bad, you just have to hit multiple targets.

I'm not sure why you couldn't build Amumu exactly the same way people build Rumble. Rumble also has to balance his stats and nobody suggests for a moment that means there's no room for WotA. (Note: Most of Rumble's damage is also AoE)

On March 23 2012 01:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:44 Seuss wrote:
Amumu is the strongest AP jungler hands down, and is thus the best candidate for a mid/jungler double WotA setup (he heals for a crapton with his ult + e + w).

You can also jungle Akali, but she requires a highly specialized rune page to be viable. Karthus, Cass, and Gragas can all jungle and are great candidates for WotA, but you'll really notice how difference jungle farm is from solo lane farm. Galio can also jungle but he's a fairly poor candidate for WotA.



What's wrong with jungle rumble?


Same problem with jungle Fizz. It can technically work, but compared to the other options I mentioned it's weaker, slower, and less secure. It's possible there's a setup where they're stronger than what I've tried, but I haven't seen or experienced it.

Jungle Singed could work. WotA isn't particularly great on him, but it is funny to see your health rising when the entire enemy team blindly chases you through your poison.
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jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
March 22 2012 17:07 GMT
#945
On March 23 2012 01:53 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:44 Seuss wrote:
Amumu is the strongest AP jungler hands down, and is thus the best candidate for a mid/jungler double WotA setup (he heals for a crapton with his ult + e + w).

You can also jungle Akali, but she requires a highly specialized rune page to be viable. Karthus, Cass, and Gragas can all jungle and are great candidates for WotA, but you'll really notice how difference jungle farm is from solo lane farm. Galio can also jungle but he's a fairly poor candidate for WotA.


except they are all aoe so they suck for spell vamp ;p

the problem with wota on amumu is you need to get a balance of tanky stats, boots, and if you want ap atleast 1 item must be deathcap i dont see where in a 6 item build you would get wota.


spellvamp is completely fine with aoe spells. the end game mumu build i usaly shoot for is tabi or mercs shurelia's frozenheart omen wota abyssal.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 17:14:33
March 22 2012 17:11 GMT
#946
SV jungling hitler mumu now.

Game almost over - he has gp5, boots, frozen heart, rylai, abyssal
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 22 2012 17:29 GMT
#947
On March 23 2012 02:11 Sandster wrote:
SV jungling hitler mumu now.

Game almost over - he has gp5, boots, frozen heart, rylai, abyssal

I approve of that build, it's roughly what I used to go for when I jungled mummy.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 22 2012 17:36 GMT
#948
On March 23 2012 01:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:13 Sabin010 wrote:
On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote:
Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage.


Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid.


Singed is pretty fun to do that with.

Not sure if poison works with vamp.
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Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
March 22 2012 17:37 GMT
#949
Support poppy might not win any serious games, but damn if she's not super fun. Especially with Vayne.
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Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 17:40:39
March 22 2012 17:38 GMT
#950
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0Aj3YD8Rl_kDNdDZfM0k1M1pBa3U1MjRkOTVFekNVWHc&toomany=true#gid=0

I just saw this spread sheet on Reddit. It's a chart of Wickd's top lane match ups. Aparently Vlad, Cass, Trundle, and Pantheon are the guys you need to pick to shut Yorik down. The chart isn't finished, as I'm sure there is at least one more counter for Yorick.

On March 23 2012 02:37 Inschato wrote:
Support poppy might not win any serious games, but damn if she's not super fun. Especially with Vayne.

Its like a Blitz support lane. One positional error and you're dead.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 17:42:30
March 22 2012 17:42 GMT
#951
His note (112) says that Vlad should get chalice against Yorrick...

Also vamp works on poison trail, of course.
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
March 22 2012 17:42 GMT
#952
support veigar with mf/graves is a lot of fun too
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 22 2012 17:43 GMT
#953
On March 23 2012 02:38 Sabin010 wrote:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0Aj3YD8Rl_kDNdDZfM0k1M1pBa3U1MjRkOTVFekNVWHc&toomany=true#gid=0

I just saw this spread sheet on Reddit. It's a chart of Wickd's top lane match ups. Aparently Vlad, Cass, Trundle, and Pantheon are the guys you need to pick to shut Yorik down. The chart isn't finished, as I'm sure there is at least one more counter for Yorick.

I disagree with a lot of this chart. Especially regarding Galio, sweet jesus he has a low opinion of Galio.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 22 2012 17:45 GMT
#954
On March 23 2012 02:36 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 23 2012 01:13 Sabin010 wrote:
On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote:
Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage.


Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid.


Singed is pretty fun to do that with.

Not sure if poison works with vamp.


I'm pretty sure it does. I think I remember testing it out with either T_D or gandhi a while back.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 22 2012 17:46 GMT
#955
poison works with vamp and counts as AoE, no doubt.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
March 22 2012 17:47 GMT
#956
Whenever I jungle some shit like naut, my clears feel so slow and I feel like I'm too low to gank and late to boot. Halpz with non speedy junglers pls. =/
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 17:49:55
March 22 2012 17:48 GMT
#957
On March 23 2012 02:38 Sabin010 wrote:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0Aj3YD8Rl_kDNdDZfM0k1M1pBa3U1MjRkOTVFekNVWHc&toomany=true#gid=0

I just saw this spread sheet on Reddit. It's a chart of Wickd's top lane match ups. Aparently Vlad, Cass, Trundle, and Pantheon are the guys you need to pick to shut Yorik down. The chart isn't finished, as I'm sure there is at least one more counter for Yorick.

Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 02:37 Inschato wrote:
Support poppy might not win any serious games, but damn if she's not super fun. Especially with Vayne.

Its like a Blitz support lane. One positional error and you're dead.


Wtf. Yorick is the hardest hard counter to ever hard counter pantheon. There's absolutely nothing panth can do in that lane.

Trundle is the clear counter to Yorick, though. His passive gives him tons of free health if yorick even tries to use his skills. Cass beats nearly everyone so that's believable.

I'd also wager Lee Sin can beat Yorick if played correctly.
Remember Violet.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
March 22 2012 17:49 GMT
#958
On March 23 2012 01:41 cLutZ wrote:
Has anyone bought Lulu yet? Who are her comps?


She's pretty strong with mf/ashe, someone who can abuse her speedboost/slow rly hard. She's incredibly fun to play with a decent ad carry, high ganking potential and post 6 you can just run lanes down.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 22 2012 17:56 GMT
#959
On March 23 2012 02:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 02:38 Sabin010 wrote:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0Aj3YD8Rl_kDNdDZfM0k1M1pBa3U1MjRkOTVFekNVWHc&toomany=true#gid=0

I just saw this spread sheet on Reddit. It's a chart of Wickd's top lane match ups. Aparently Vlad, Cass, Trundle, and Pantheon are the guys you need to pick to shut Yorik down. The chart isn't finished, as I'm sure there is at least one more counter for Yorick.

On March 23 2012 02:37 Inschato wrote:
Support poppy might not win any serious games, but damn if she's not super fun. Especially with Vayne.

Its like a Blitz support lane. One positional error and you're dead.


Wtf. Yorick is the hardest hard counter to ever hard counter pantheon. There's absolutely nothing panth can do in that lane.

that's definitely not true. I'll play vs. Yorick 10x in a row before playing against Malphite just once. But it's really stupid to say Pantheon counters Yorick while saying Irelia counters Pantheon in the same chart. writing a matchup chart for top is stupid anyway, no one has even close to enough experience in all those different matchups to talk. Even with thousands of games, I'll bet Wickd has played 75+% of those matchups 0-2 times, which is far too few to draw a conclusion about the outcome of them.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 22 2012 17:57 GMT
#960
You can jungle with Rumble ?
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