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On March 23 2012 00:57 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 22:47 ihasaKAROT wrote: Doublelift is too predictable HSGG keeps getting caught Jiji doenst ward properly and counterpressure
Chauster and SV are the only ones that really seem to know what they are doing wrong
edit: doublelift saying hes not playing ashe today cus he doenst care? thats some nice dedication to practise... why are they in a teamhouse again? ... I don't get proteams. I don't know if they're just lazy or putting on an act on stream. It seems like they'd rather put in 16 hours of shitty practice than 4 hours of real practice. I feel like CLG and TSM legitimately need a babysitter / coach that has the final say, tells them what to do, and settles their dumb arguments. Well, LoL maybe real popular and have a much large player base than any other e-sport right now. But their stucture is no where as mature as SC:BW and SC2. Pro LoL teams now are just like 5 people playing together with no real plan of practice or anything.
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On March 23 2012 00:49 Schwopzi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 00:43 Two_DoWn wrote:On March 23 2012 00:42 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:On March 22 2012 22:59 Two_DoWn wrote: In other news, I have decided that I am beyond bored with every champion I play. Like REALLY bored.
And since I managed to tank back down to 1700 by playing random shit, I figure I might as well keep going, but actually have fun in the process.
So Imma learn to AD carry. Only I know nothing about bot lane. I think the reasonable first step would be to figure out who I am gonna play. So who should I learn first?
Cait is too boring, Koggles is too immobile to be fun, and Ezreal is too hard, but other than that I am open to suggestions. My recommendations : 1) Miss fortune cuz snowball meta 2) Vayne cuz true damage (T_D!) > snowball meta I know, vayne is SUPER tempting. I just scared cuz my understanding is she sucks in a lot of matchups. I could be wrong though. In a lot of matchups you're forced to play relatively passive, but if you use tumble smart she's actually pretty strong in lane. I would not play her with a soraka though, talk about boring :< Vayne does really well against Ezreal. Tumble helps her dodge skillshots and they have equal range, so you can trade tumbles for an auto behind a creep wave. Guess which does more damage.
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Wow, what a rape That team last fight, this is so sad for TSM.
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These koreans on Saint's stream... 5 man gank bottom. Then SV goes to gank top and ends up 1v3.
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What other guys had a lot of AP damage from the jungle. Not like Nunu damage, I mean like Karthus or Fiddle damage.
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What amazes me is how everybody speaks of AD counters to Vayne... You know there are usually 2 characters bott >.>
A Vayne coordinated with an Alistar or a Taric is the scariest thing ever. 4+s stuns with true damage and burst, just ridiculous. And a Vayne pitted against a Soraka lane is a very happy Vayne.
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Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage.
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On March 23 2012 01:06 mr_tolkien wrote: What amazes me is how everybody speaks of AD counters to Vayne... You know there are usually 2 characters bott >.>
A Vayne coordinated with an Alistar or a Taric is the scariest thing ever. 4+s stuns with true damage and burst, just ridiculous. And a Vayne pitted against a Soraka lane is a very happy Vayne. True but you have to be pretty brain dead to get caught by a taric/alistar combo on someone like cait or graves or ezreal or tristana for that matter. Maybe if they flash you and your support doesn't have a ward in the other brush to see it coming but meh.
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For some reason own3D streams are not working for me although I can watch twitch.tv streams fine. Opera just straight up crashes when I tune into a own3D stream and firefox isn't downloading anything. I have no clue what's wrong, can someone give me any advice?
Edit: nvm somehow its working now O.o
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Well, Vayne true damage isn't... THAT huge. I mean, in the most ideal scenario I can think of (Enemy trynd has 3 warmogs and 3 thornmail making the true dmg to dmg ratio the best I can think of, your items being PD BT LW IE) in 3 hits the true dmg is going to deal around 540 dmg while your normal attacks will deal around 612 dmg. Sure it almost doubles your dmg vs the ideal target without considering Volley but:
#1 You very rarely actually attack the same target 3 times in a row
#2 Against the standard squishy or even a normal bruiser Silver Bolt's portion of the damage is going to be rather miniscule.
It's more of a niche skill than some super counter to whatever. Corki's passive is infinitely better in my opinion.
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On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote: Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage.
Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid.
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On March 23 2012 01:13 Sabin010 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote: Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage. Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid. Rumble
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On March 23 2012 01:13 Sabin010 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote: Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage. Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid.
amumu
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
in my opinion vayne is an op hero similiar to shako. Both deal huge damage and have a versatile kit which makes them op.
Vayne:
- dodge roll thing - stun shot(push back shot) - invis for short time - high attack speed + range
even if she did not get fed in the beginning she can be a powerful late game hero, but that is a LoL problem not much of her character but it helps her more then other.
but just my opinion
but just my opinion
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Has anyone bought Lulu yet? Who are her comps?
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Amumu is the strongest AP jungler hands down, and is thus the best candidate for a mid/jungler double WotA setup (he heals for a crapton with his ult + e + w).
You can also jungle Akali, but she requires a highly specialized rune page to be viable. Karthus, Cass, and Gragas can all jungle and are great candidates for WotA, but you'll really notice how difference jungle farm is from solo lane farm. Galio can also jungle but he's a fairly poor candidate for WotA.
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Lulu with AD Kennen is rather strong. Kennen gets some nice scaling on his abilities, can engage or disengage whenever you feel like, and a lot of poke.
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On March 23 2012 01:44 Seuss wrote: Amumu is the strongest AP jungler hands down, and is thus the best candidate for a mid/jungler double WotA setup (he heals for a crapton with his ult + e + w).
You can also jungle Akali, but she requires a highly specialized rune page to be viable. Karthus, Cass, and Gragas can all jungle and are great candidates for WotA, but you'll really notice how difference jungle farm is from solo lane farm. Galio can also jungle but he's a fairly poor candidate for WotA.
except they are all aoe so they suck for spell vamp ;p
the problem with wota on amumu is you need to get a balance of tanky stats, boots, and if you want ap atleast 1 item must be deathcap i dont see where in a 6 item build you would get wota.
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On March 23 2012 01:44 Seuss wrote: Amumu is the strongest AP jungler hands down, and is thus the best candidate for a mid/jungler double WotA setup (he heals for a crapton with his ult + e + w).
You can also jungle Akali, but she requires a highly specialized rune page to be viable. Karthus, Cass, and Gragas can all jungle and are great candidates for WotA, but you'll really notice how difference jungle farm is from solo lane farm. Galio can also jungle but he's a fairly poor candidate for WotA.
What's wrong with jungle rumble?
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Baa?21243 Posts
On March 23 2012 01:13 Sabin010 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote: Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage. Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid.
Singed is pretty fun to do that with.
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