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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 22 2012 16:00 GMT
#921
On March 23 2012 00:57 Chill wrote:
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On March 22 2012 22:47 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Doublelift is too predictable
HSGG keeps getting caught
Jiji doenst ward properly and counterpressure

Chauster and SV are the only ones that really seem to know what they are doing wrong

edit: doublelift saying hes not playing ashe today cus he doenst care? thats some nice dedication to practise... why are they in a teamhouse again? ...

I don't get proteams. I don't know if they're just lazy or putting on an act on stream. It seems like they'd rather put in 16 hours of shitty practice than 4 hours of real practice. I feel like CLG and TSM legitimately need a babysitter / coach that has the final say, tells them what to do, and settles their dumb arguments.

Well, LoL maybe real popular and have a much large player base than any other e-sport right now. But their stucture is no where as mature as SC:BW and SC2. Pro LoL teams now are just like 5 people playing together with no real plan of practice or anything.
Terran
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9781 Posts
March 22 2012 16:01 GMT
#922
On March 23 2012 00:49 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 00:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 23 2012 00:42 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On March 22 2012 22:59 Two_DoWn wrote:
In other news, I have decided that I am beyond bored with every champion I play. Like REALLY bored.

And since I managed to tank back down to 1700 by playing random shit, I figure I might as well keep going, but actually have fun in the process.

So Imma learn to AD carry. Only I know nothing about bot lane. I think the reasonable first step would be to figure out who I am gonna play. So who should I learn first?

Cait is too boring, Koggles is too immobile to be fun, and Ezreal is too hard, but other than that I am open to suggestions.


My recommendations :
1) Miss fortune cuz snowball meta
2) Vayne cuz true damage (T_D!) > snowball meta

I know, vayne is SUPER tempting. I just scared cuz my understanding is she sucks in a lot of matchups. I could be wrong though.


In a lot of matchups you're forced to play relatively passive, but if you use tumble smart she's actually pretty strong in lane. I would not play her with a soraka though, talk about boring :<

Vayne does really well against Ezreal. Tumble helps her dodge skillshots and they have equal range, so you can trade tumbles for an auto behind a creep wave. Guess which does more damage.
boomer hands
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 22 2012 16:03 GMT
#923
Wow, what a rape That team last fight, this is so sad for TSM.
Terran
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
March 22 2012 16:04 GMT
#924
These koreans on Saint's stream... 5 man gank bottom. Then SV goes to gank top and ends up 1v3.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
March 22 2012 16:04 GMT
#925
What other guys had a lot of AP damage from the jungle. Not like Nunu damage, I mean like Karthus or Fiddle damage.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#926
What amazes me is how everybody speaks of AD counters to Vayne... You know there are usually 2 characters bott >.>

A Vayne coordinated with an Alistar or a Taric is the scariest thing ever. 4+s stuns with true damage and burst, just ridiculous.
And a Vayne pitted against a Soraka lane is a very happy Vayne.
The legend of Darien lives on
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#927
Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 16:12:58
March 22 2012 16:07 GMT
#928
On March 23 2012 01:06 mr_tolkien wrote:
What amazes me is how everybody speaks of AD counters to Vayne... You know there are usually 2 characters bott >.>

A Vayne coordinated with an Alistar or a Taric is the scariest thing ever. 4+s stuns with true damage and burst, just ridiculous.
And a Vayne pitted against a Soraka lane is a very happy Vayne.

True but you have to be pretty brain dead to get caught by a taric/alistar combo on someone like cait or graves or ezreal or tristana for that matter.
Maybe if they flash you and your support doesn't have a ward in the other brush to see it coming but meh.
Cackle™
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 16:15:55
March 22 2012 16:08 GMT
#929
For some reason own3D streams are not working for me although I can watch twitch.tv streams fine. Opera just straight up crashes when I tune into a own3D stream and firefox isn't downloading anything. I have no clue what's wrong, can someone give me any advice?

Edit: nvm somehow its working now O.o
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 22 2012 16:10 GMT
#930
Well, Vayne true damage isn't... THAT huge. I mean, in the most ideal scenario I can think of (Enemy trynd has 3 warmogs and 3 thornmail making the true dmg to dmg ratio the best I can think of, your items being PD BT LW IE) in 3 hits the true dmg is going to deal around 540 dmg while your normal attacks will deal around 612 dmg. Sure it almost doubles your dmg vs the ideal target without considering Volley but:

#1 You very rarely actually attack the same target 3 times in a row

#2 Against the standard squishy or even a normal bruiser Silver Bolt's portion of the damage is going to be rather miniscule.

It's more of a niche skill than some super counter to whatever. Corki's passive is infinitely better in my opinion.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
March 22 2012 16:13 GMT
#931
On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote:
Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage.


Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 22 2012 16:14 GMT
#932
On March 23 2012 01:13 Sabin010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote:
Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage.


Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid.

Rumble
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
March 22 2012 16:16 GMT
#933
On March 23 2012 01:13 Sabin010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote:
Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage.


Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid.


amumu
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
March 22 2012 16:38 GMT
#934
in my opinion vayne is an op hero similiar to shako. Both deal huge damage and have a versatile kit which makes them op.

Vayne:

- dodge roll thing
- stun shot(push back shot)
- invis for short time
- high attack speed + range

even if she did not get fed in the beginning she can be a powerful late game hero, but that is a LoL problem not much of her character but it helps her more then other.

but just my opinion

but just my opinion
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#935
Has anyone bought Lulu yet? Who are her comps?
Freeeeeeedom
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 16:45:46
March 22 2012 16:44 GMT
#936
Amumu is the strongest AP jungler hands down, and is thus the best candidate for a mid/jungler double WotA setup (he heals for a crapton with his ult + e + w).

You can also jungle Akali, but she requires a highly specialized rune page to be viable. Karthus, Cass, and Gragas can all jungle and are great candidates for WotA, but you'll really notice how difference jungle farm is from solo lane farm. Galio can also jungle but he's a fairly poor candidate for WotA.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 16:47:46
March 22 2012 16:47 GMT
#937
Lulu with AD Kennen is rather strong. Kennen gets some nice scaling on his abilities, can engage or disengage whenever you feel like, and a lot of poke.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 22 2012 16:53 GMT
#938
On March 23 2012 01:44 Seuss wrote:
Amumu is the strongest AP jungler hands down, and is thus the best candidate for a mid/jungler double WotA setup (he heals for a crapton with his ult + e + w).

You can also jungle Akali, but she requires a highly specialized rune page to be viable. Karthus, Cass, and Gragas can all jungle and are great candidates for WotA, but you'll really notice how difference jungle farm is from solo lane farm. Galio can also jungle but he's a fairly poor candidate for WotA.


except they are all aoe so they suck for spell vamp ;p

the problem with wota on amumu is you need to get a balance of tanky stats, boots, and if you want ap atleast 1 item must be deathcap i dont see where in a 6 item build you would get wota.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 22 2012 16:53 GMT
#939
On March 23 2012 01:44 Seuss wrote:
Amumu is the strongest AP jungler hands down, and is thus the best candidate for a mid/jungler double WotA setup (he heals for a crapton with his ult + e + w).

You can also jungle Akali, but she requires a highly specialized rune page to be viable. Karthus, Cass, and Gragas can all jungle and are great candidates for WotA, but you'll really notice how difference jungle farm is from solo lane farm. Galio can also jungle but he's a fairly poor candidate for WotA.



What's wrong with jungle rumble?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 22 2012 16:53 GMT
#940
On March 23 2012 01:13 Sabin010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 01:06 Alaric wrote:
Do you mean AP or magic? Because Shyvana actually does a lot of magic damage.


Something you could double WotA with Jungler and Mid.


Singed is pretty fun to do that with.
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