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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
March 22 2012 14:09 GMT
#881
if you dont want to try i would recommend graves
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 14:13:42
March 22 2012 14:11 GMT
#882
On March 22 2012 23:00 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 22:58 shrinkmaster wrote:
The whole logic behind this "we can't scrim vs mig too much, because that would make them stronger" is sooo screwed imho.

Playing against worse teams is good for warmup, but bad for evolving your skills.
Playing against teams that are a LOT worse than you is just bad.
Playing against stronger teams is always a good thing unless they rape you really hard, because this is bad for your confidence.
Playing against slightly stronger teams is always beneficial.


Generally in competitive gaming you don't want to scrim people you will hit in the tournament in the near future, however, in this case it benefits CLG more than MiG to scrim each other... because CLG is having major issues with coordination and also individual play, so they need that to be sharp.


I have a very competitive ego shooter background and we always scrimmed against the best currently available teams. Not to show them our newest strategies of course, but to keep us at the top of our game.
At the same time we had friendly teams that helped us develope and refine new strategies to surprise the other teams and win tournaments.
Of course this is from a few years back and we would never have streamed our scrims in the first place.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 22 2012 14:12 GMT
#883
Should just try them all in some normals or bot games. Personally I clicked with Graves. He is pretty straightforward though.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 22 2012 14:13 GMT
#884
On March 22 2012 22:59 Two_DoWn wrote:
In other news, I have decided that I am beyond bored with every champion I play. Like REALLY bored.

And since I managed to tank back down to 1700 by playing random shit, I figure I might as well keep going, but actually have fun in the process.

So Imma learn to AD carry. Only I know nothing about bot lane. I think the reasonable first step would be to figure out who I am gonna play. So who should I learn first?

Cait is too boring, Koggles is too immobile to be fun, and Ezreal is too hard, but other than that I am open to suggestions.

The funniest AD carry is by far Tristana. JUMP JUMP JUMP KILL KILL KILL. Actually requires skills to be played well, but once you master dem jumps/double jumps well it's so fun.

But the #1 thing you'll need for bott is to learn the powercurve of all ADs. This is by far the most important !
The legend of Darien lives on
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 22 2012 14:19 GMT
#885
Graves and Corki probably best fit what you're looking for, although Corki is a little on the Ezreal side of activity, especially when he hits 6, so maybe you won't want to learn him either.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
March 22 2012 14:20 GMT
#886
AD Ahri, isn't as bad as one would expect. Charm has a lot of kill potential an aggressive lane.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 22 2012 14:30 GMT
#887
AD Kennen top is such an asshole. Got an escape, stuns to give him some time to damage you, self-peeling, 1k range poke if he wants to annoy you, good range and speed for an AD, good aa animation, not paper-thin like Cait or Vayne... and he actually wants to get dived. Stack AD runes and harass people to death.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 22 2012 14:34 GMT
#888
So I just did a solo q game with Lulu mid. I was vs Sion, and we had an Olaf top. We were struggling a bit 4v4 fights (without top lane) because of Sion's early game power, but once team fight started, OMFG.

Using my W to speed up Olaf, E on our AD carry, and then ult on Olaf once he's in the middle of them. It was an unstoppable machine. If I needed to help with chasing, I just tossed Pix onto Olaf and glitterlanced the fuck out of the runners. Lulu has so much potential. Too bad they'll probably nerf her ratios.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 22 2012 14:36 GMT
#889
T_D and skill shots are like oil and water. Do not suggest any champions with abilities that require aim.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 22 2012 14:37 GMT
#890
On March 22 2012 23:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So I just did a solo q game with Lulu mid. I was vs Sion, and we had an Olaf top. We were struggling a bit 4v4 fights (without top lane) because of Sion's early game power, but once team fight started, OMFG.

Using my W to speed up Olaf, E on our AD carry, and then ult on Olaf once he's in the middle of them. It was an unstoppable machine. If I needed to help with chasing, I just tossed Pix onto Olaf and glitterlanced the fuck out of the runners. Lulu has so much potential. Too bad they'll probably nerf her ratios.

More than ratios they need to nerf her passive damage at lvl1...
The legend of Darien lives on
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 22 2012 14:39 GMT
#891
On March 22 2012 23:36 Seuss wrote:
T_D and skill shots are like oil and water. Do not suggest any champions with abilities that require aim.

Hey, you have to aim shyvana.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 14:43:33
March 22 2012 14:40 GMT
#892
On March 22 2012 23:36 Seuss wrote:
T_D and skill shots are like oil and water. Do not suggest any champions with abilities that require aim.

No big deal with Corki. Max E, play (and build) him bruiser-like. Insanely good for carrying in games with inequal skill distribution (aka you have 80% of the kills on the team). R isn't really a skillshot when the enemy is running from your E in a straight line.

Imo Corki's a good stepping stone if you want to learn ADs. Same with Urgot. Stuff like Ashe is a bit further away from other roles.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 14:41:44
March 22 2012 14:41 GMT
#893
T_D and skill shots are like oil and water. Do not suggest any champions with abilities that require aim.


In the same way you have to "aim" Leblanc's W.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 22 2012 14:45 GMT
#894
On March 22 2012 23:41 ManyCookies wrote:
Show nested quote +
T_D and skill shots are like oil and water. Do not suggest any champions with abilities that require aim.


In the same way you have to "aim" Leblanc's W.


I'm not sure you've ever watched T_D play...
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
March 22 2012 14:52 GMT
#895
On March 22 2012 23:39 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 23:36 Seuss wrote:
T_D and skill shots are like oil and water. Do not suggest any champions with abilities that require aim.

Hey, you have to aim shyvana.

Doesn't count. In dragon form her ass covers half the screen. Your Jungler is so fat...
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 14:53:04
March 22 2012 14:52 GMT
#896
I'm not sure you've ever watched T_D play...


Well allow me to make your life a little more certain. No, I haven't. Was that a rib at me or T_D?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 22 2012 14:56 GMT
#897
Those are probably some dark TL B privates that we may never know of. I mean, it's not like they've got their secret lair in here or anything. Just infiltrate their voice chat next.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 22 2012 14:56 GMT
#898
On March 22 2012 23:52 ManyCookies wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'm not sure you've ever watched T_D play...


Well allow me to make your life a little more certain. No, I haven't. Was that a rib at me or T_D?

Definitely T_D
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 22 2012 14:59 GMT
#899
On March 22 2012 23:52 ManyCookies wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'm not sure you've ever watched T_D play...


Well allow me to make your life a little more certain. No, I haven't. Was that a rib at me or T_D?


Definitely not a rib at you.

Just count yourself lucky you haven't suffered his jungle tf ^.^
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 22 2012 15:01 GMT
#900
On March 22 2012 23:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 23:52 ManyCookies wrote:
I'm not sure you've ever watched T_D play...


Well allow me to make your life a little more certain. No, I haven't. Was that a rib at me or T_D?


Definitely not a rib at you.

Just count yourself lucky you haven't suffered his jungle tf ^.^

Which has STILL been used in more competitive games than Viktor.

Just sayin~
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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