EPT[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 313
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
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To be fair though, it's very hard to get into the casting scene unless you have very good connections regardless of the quality of your work. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On April 16 2012 09:43 red_ wrote: Some real classic Shikyo going down with people even attempting to portray that 460+ cs in a 36 minute game isn't BANANAS AS FUCK. i was more just curious as to if it was 'possible' with purely lane farm and i think it would require never missing a creep for all 36 minutes. so he clearly just took the wraiths a lot. which is a shame because the different in minion value makes the whole idea of cs pointless ;( they should just show gold earned per player, its not like its a secret but people would be curious to see it midgame. On April 16 2012 10:17 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: The NESL has had sub-poor casting for quite a while. I'm quite curious how they choose their commentators, although from what I've heard the NESL tends to be a very insular group that's all based on who you know and connections. To be fair though, it's very hard to get into the casting scene unless you have very good connections regardless of the quality of your work. this is hardly knew to casting/lol/anything ;p | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 16 2012 10:19 turdburgler wrote: i was more just curious as to if it was 'possible' with purely lane farm and i think it would require never missing a creep for all 36 minutes. so he clearly just took the wraiths a lot. which is a shame because the different in minion value makes the whole idea of cs pointless ;( they should just show gold earned per player, its not like its a secret but people would be curious to see it midgame. Again, if you're farming multiple lanes as big waves push to your side efficiently, you'll get more than 1 lane's worth of farm. Even if you're farming 2 lanes at 60% efficiency (not that unrealistic, and I'd expect Alex Ich was doing much better than that in this game), you still get 120% of what you'd get farming a single lane. It's just that normally, that kind of farm distribution is detrimental to the rest of your team. It's possible here that he farmed 1 lane at high efficiency (getting most/all CS and making sure to shove lane into tower before leaving), and then cleaned up big waves in other lanes when he happened to gank/TP down for objectives/be the only one alive after a fight. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
i love him now. | ||
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
And thus ended my desire to support NeSL. I lasted 9 seconds. Go in to check out that they are running a tournament and killing time with youtube dubstep. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
twitch.tv/ne_esports and no, i'm not playing this game | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On April 16 2012 10:21 TheYango wrote: Again, if you're farming multiple lanes as big waves push to your side efficiently, you'll get more than 1 lane's worth of farm. Even if you're farming 2 lanes at 60% efficiency (not that unrealistic, and I'd expect Alex Ich was doing much better than that in this game), you still get 120% of what you'd get farming a single lane. It's just that normally, that kind of farm distribution is detrimental to the rest of your team. It's possible here that he farmed 1 lane at high efficiency (getting most/all CS and making sure to shove lane into tower before leaving), and then cleaned up big waves in other lanes when he happened to gank/TP down for objectives/be the only one alive after a fight. look at the other players cs. he clearly wasnt taking 'much' farm on ganks and he only has a few kills so maybe you could put at max 50 cs down to stealing from other lanes, factor in the lost cs from a possible gank and he is getting like 80+% of that from his lane alone. if you want to get even more anal about the screenshot. he was involved in all 12 kills but bot lane was only involed in 10. this implies reneks 2 kills were alex ich ganking top lane. reneks cs is also very high so we can infer that almost no cs was taken. beyond that youd have to rewatch the game, but my point is merely that any talk of taking every lanes farm is probably overstated | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
On April 16 2012 10:43 BlackPaladin wrote: I think from really early beta inhibs were still called barracks on the stat screen breakdowns. But it was just an old carryover from dota :/ i know when i first startes LoL i was like "wtf are barracks destroyed" on the score screen in your match history cause their name in LoL is now inhibitor. oh.. now that I think about it I actually remember that lol. | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On April 16 2012 11:17 randomKo_Orean wrote: Remember caller? That guy used to farm 500 minions in 40 minutes with mordekaiser. How? I still don't know... I've gotten 270 in 20 as mordekaiser, but I was literally taking my wave, our wraiths another wave, their wraiths repeat from like the 7-8 minute mark onwards. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I'm looking at you, Graves and Viktor. | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 16 2012 10:43 turdburgler wrote: look at the other players cs. he clearly wasnt taking 'much' farm on ganks and he only has a few kills so maybe you could put at max 50 cs down to stealing from other lanes, factor in the lost cs from a possible gank and he is getting like 80+% of that from his lane alone. if you want to get even more anal about the screenshot. he was involved in all 12 kills but bot lane was only involed in 10. this implies reneks 2 kills were alex ich ganking top lane. reneks cs is also very high so we can infer that almost no cs was taken. beyond that youd have to rewatch the game, but my point is merely that any talk of taking every lanes farm is probably overstated I'm not even saying he was necessarily "taking" that much farm. Just that so long as you're pushing your lane cleanly and efficiently, that leaves you a lot of time to do other things (gank, take objectives, etc.), and in the process of doing those things, you will get more incidental CS than you lose from being out of your lane. Once a double or triple wave builds up from the creep wave pushing back to your side, there will be very few enemy creeps dying as it steamrolls your creep waves on the way back to your side of the map. Most of the "lost" farm comes from people shoving lanes poorly and inefficiently--e.g. just shoving a creep wave to the river, and having no one farming it while it eats 2-3 more waves of creeps before someone on the other team chooses to farm it at their inner tower, wasting that 2-3 waves worth of gold/XP. Well, that and people letting big creep waves shove into towers, taking a ton of tower damage AND wasting the farm. But that happens way less often in high level games where teams are more conscious about creep waves and usually only waste that farm if they're getting a more important objective. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On April 16 2012 11:42 Jaso wrote: Viktor seems more unique, but for Graves you just farm and spam Q :o I like Graves' theme and kit, but I generally play my ranged AD more... ranged. Like Kog, Cait, and Ez, ADs I can sit back and stay safe at a distance. | ||
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Craton
United States17293 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On April 16 2012 11:41 Requizen wrote: Don't you hate it when there's a champ you think is cool, but you can't play them worth crap? I'm looking at you, Graves and Viktor. Morde looks so metal and awesome yet I can't play him worth a damn. | ||
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