[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 199
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turdburgler
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On April 05 2012 10:58 HazMat wrote: Then you Q the creep which puts you right next to them to get E and autoattacks. At this point you're just theorycrafting too much. He's bad because people sometimes walk into their creep waves? Is mundo a bad ganker? im fully aware of how to kill people thanks for tips. tytytyty ;D On April 05 2012 11:15 AUGcodon wrote: huh how did I forget the moose and shaco, need to think more before posting easy to forget shaco is a real champion and not just a button that 1 team tries to bait the other team in to pressing each game theres no shaco guide thread on TL. gotta discuss how to man mode him up in blind normals | ||
HazMat
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On April 05 2012 11:31 turdburgler wrote: im fully aware of how to kill people thanks for tips. tytytyty ;D easy to forget shaco is a real champion and not just a button that 1 team tries to bait the other team in to pressing each game theres no shaco guide thread on TL. gotta discuss how to man mode him up in blind normals ? Guess you gave up and agree Lee is a good ganker? | ||
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JBright
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Did anyone else catch this? It's only hearsay for now but it would be cool to see Dan doing stuff for OGN. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
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On April 05 2012 12:03 BlackPaladin wrote: Half the time I see him stream he's drunk. I feel bad for the guy's liver. ...you ever watch SV's stream?? | ||
overt
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On April 05 2012 07:14 wei2coolman wrote: There's no way annie is going to be getting away with a lot of cs, against alot of the current ap meta, without being poked out of lane, ie ziggs, cass, anivia, ahri, and so on. This is straight up false. Annie has a crazy safe lane if you choose to play safe. Most champs try to push the lane towards Annie because she lacks clearing power at early levels and her auto attack range is better than everyone but Caitlyn at that point in the game. Not to mention her Q makes farming ezpz. If you can dodge skill shots and use your passive properly you can easily get farmed. It's just that most of the APs who beat her can push lane in, then go gank. Or if you're bad they can harass you down because you fucked up and got hit by Ahri Q or Cass Q. I don't think her laning is incredible or anything but it's definitely possible to get farm in literally any lane except maybe against Xerath. On April 05 2012 08:13 Eppa! wrote: Short range, weak poke, mediocre AP ratios, no mobility. She has a bunch of problems basically between 7-12 something are her "power levels". Anivia has better control and scaling. Kennen has stronger scaling and is only slightly weaker mid game, Ahri has spammable poke and mobility. Annie isn't bad but she wallows around in mediocrity much like Xin Zhao and Lux. She doesn't have poke nor does she have mobility. But her AP ratios are on par or better than lots of other AP carries. Her late game is still good too. Annie can initiate fights. Kennen can't do that, despite what people might think his ult is pretty shitty initiation. Anivia has a better late game but the only AP that has a better late game than her is probably Karthus lol. Ahri late game is definitely not as good as Annie, she can't initiate fights and she can't counter-initiate either (two things that Annie is incredible at). Annie was bad late game before her buffs. Back when she did have mediocre AP ratios. Riot changed her months ago and now her AP ratios are just as good as other champions. It actually weakened her early game slightly because they nerfed her base damages but her ratios mean she has kill threat at all stages of the game. The biggest problem with her late game is that the enemy will probably have BV but that can be countered by running an AD with good poke such as Corki. For reference, she has .7 ratio on her Q and R with a .75 ratio on W. She seriously scales just as well as most other APs save a small few (Ryze, Karthus, Anivia come to mind). | ||
iCanada
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On April 05 2012 11:09 Juicyfruit wrote: Only Shaco/Rammus might have comparable low-level ganks. If your ganks start being effective at only at level 4 and beyond that's not what I'd call a strong early level ganking presence at all. The thing is, LeeSin has invasion potential which makes his gank timing and pathing all the more unpredictable, and LeeSin can gank really well from down the lane on top of everything else. Imo Riven's early game ganks about as strong or stronger than Lee's if flash up. No one jungle her though, which is fair because she scales so well with gold. Top lane Riven too good... That and Riven fairly underplayed in general since her nerfs. | ||
Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On April 05 2012 12:30 iCanada wrote: Imo Riven's early game ganks about as strong or stronger than Lee's if flash up. No one jungle her though, which is fair because she scales so well with gold. Top lane Riven too good... That and Riven fairly underplayed in general since her nerfs. SV jungle with Riven alot on Korea server and he has 100% winrate with her up to 2000 elo. I think only SV can make it works like that though since he farm non-stop and rarely gank. But when he ganks its quite effective. | ||
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Caphe
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On April 05 2012 12:36 HazMat wrote: Crumbzz and Jacky streaming a scrim vs TSM for those interested ![]() Was looking for something to watch when I eat my lunch. Ty!!! EDIT: Can you share the link though O_O Cant find it. | ||
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