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On April 03 2012 01:26 BlueSpace wrote:
Aura items should go on supports. Supports don't have money because they need to buy wards and don't get farm. Also you need to build HoG/Philo to be able to ward later without taking creeps, that imo is the reason why everything that doesn't build from these items is underused. An Aegis is nice, but effectively it's much more expensive than a Shur. Assume you finished Philo you need an additional 1350g to complete Shur while it takes you 1925g to buy Aegis. Also please keep in mind that supports get less money so 600g is actually a much bigger deal than for the other "farming" roles.
One way to change that would be to have jungle/top/mid/ad buy wards, which would allow your support to itemize better for aura items, which I think would even make sense.
That's what every single decent team is doing. Everyone buys wards.
Not all aura items should necessarily be placed on the support. A support couldn't even buy all the good aura items in a reasonable time frame.
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On April 03 2012 00:45 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 00:43 TheYango wrote:On April 03 2012 00:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
Jungle doesnt really want it most of the time because there are better buy options for one of the nosr gold starved roles. You say this all the time, but I honestly think that Aegis is a great item for a gold-starved role, because even just the self-stat efficiency is really good. yea, Aegis is really good efficiency and the stat spread is awesome. No idea why so many people snub that item so much.
because its only 10 ad and when you have a massive ego your logic is that 10 ad wont help you 1 shot people even though your too pro to need it
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So apparently wukong can clone while rooted by amumu ult, what is this shit.
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On April 03 2012 01:39 JackDino wrote:
So apparently wukong can clone while rooted by amumu ult, what is this shit.
why wouldn't he be able to? his decoy isn't a dash and he remains rooted when he uses it, this is completely and totally expected.
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On April 03 2012 00:43 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 00:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
Jungle doesnt really want it most of the time because there are better buy options for one of the nosr gold starved roles. You say this all the time, but I honestly think that Aegis is a great item for a gold-starved role, because even just the self-stat efficiency is really good. You're basically not paying anything in terms of gold-value for the aura because Aegis is self-stat efficient. It's only drawback is that as a 2k gold item, it's not slot-efficient, but the gold-starved nature of junglers means that slot-efficiency doesn't even come into play until later in the game, if at all.
I dont think aegis is bad. I just think other stuff is better.
On offensive types, wriggles, wits, and phage are all mulipurpose items that fit my role better than aegis does. Even Hog fits better IMO.
On support types, you are looking at hog+philo core, which transitions so damn well into a fast shurelias and frozen heart to completely shut down the enemy ad carry before they even get started on their build.
I mean, aegis works on some jungles in some roles. I just dont think that it is ever a must buy in the same way that shurelias, wits, wriggles, randis, and other items are. Especially when you consider that IF shurelias is such a great item that supports should always rush that instead of aegis, why not get it on the jungle who can get it even faster and leave the aegis to the support?
But I will admit I am biased against aegis because I find the entire concept of auras to be a really shitty game mechanic in terms of both skills and items.
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On April 03 2012 01:35 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 01:26 BlueSpace wrote:
Aura items should go on supports. Supports don't have money because they need to buy wards and don't get farm. Also you need to build HoG/Philo to be able to ward later without taking creeps, that imo is the reason why everything that doesn't build from these items is underused. An Aegis is nice, but effectively it's much more expensive than a Shur. Assume you finished Philo you need an additional 1350g to complete Shur while it takes you 1925g to buy Aegis. Also please keep in mind that supports get less money so 600g is actually a much bigger deal than for the other "farming" roles.
One way to change that would be to have jungle/top/mid/ad buy wards, which would allow your support to itemize better for aura items, which I think would even make sense. That's what every single decent team is doing. Everyone buys wards. Not all aura items should necessarily be placed on the support. A support couldn't even buy all the good aura items in a reasonable time frame.
Or hell, even items like a Shurelya's.
A 30 minute support Shurelya's cool I guess, but you get one like 15 minute mark you can really catch people and snowball with it.
I big fan of Junglers grabbing aegis. It just smart. Before the 20 minute mark who gonna be in almost every skirmish? The jungler. So, makes most sense if jungler gets Aegis.
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On April 03 2012 01:45 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 01:39 JackDino wrote:
So apparently wukong can clone while rooted by amumu ult, what is this shit. why wouldn't he be able to? his decoy isn't a dash and he remains rooted when he uses it, this is completely and totally expected.
Curse of the Sad Mummy is a point blank area of effect ability that will deal magic damage and prevent all enemies in a wide area from performing any actions for 2 seconds. That's why not, because using clone means taking action.
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So I'm thinking of buying support runes. Should I do it or not? I like playing support but sometimes I just get bad AD carries that make me wanna punch a baby. I'm ranging between 900-1000 Elo atm.
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On April 03 2012 02:06 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 01:45 Mogwai wrote:On April 03 2012 01:39 JackDino wrote:
So apparently wukong can clone while rooted by amumu ult, what is this shit. why wouldn't he be able to? his decoy isn't a dash and he remains rooted when he uses it, this is completely and totally expected. Curse of the Sad Mummy is a point blank area of effect ability that will deal magic damage and prevent all enemies in a wide area from performing any actions for 2 seconds. That's why not, because using clone means taking action.
"Amumu entangles surrounding enemy units, dealing magic damage and rendering them unable to move or use autoattacks for 2 seconds."
"move or use autoattacks" doesn't include spells. Amumu ult has been known to not stop spellcasting since forever.
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On April 03 2012 02:06 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 01:45 Mogwai wrote:On April 03 2012 01:39 JackDino wrote:
So apparently wukong can clone while rooted by amumu ult, what is this shit. why wouldn't he be able to? his decoy isn't a dash and he remains rooted when he uses it, this is completely and totally expected. Curse of the Sad Mummy is a point blank area of effect ability that will deal magic damage and prevent all enemies in a wide area from performing any actions for 2 seconds. That's why not, because using clone means taking action.
it stops movement and autos. you can still cast.
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On April 03 2012 02:08 Zhiroo wrote:
So I'm thinking of buying support runes. Should I do it or not? I like playing support but sometimes I just get bad AD carries that make me wanna punch a baby. I'm ranging between 900-1000 Elo atm.
Run AD runes and just cheese your opponents out of lane, or just dont play support at all, not worth it at that elo.
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On April 03 2012 02:09 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 02:08 Zhiroo wrote:
So I'm thinking of buying support runes. Should I do it or not? I like playing support but sometimes I just get bad AD carries that make me wanna punch a baby. I'm ranging between 900-1000 Elo atm. Run AD runes and just cheese your opponents out of lane, or just dont play support at all, not worth it at that elo.
Or run zilean with full ap runes. Laugh as your opponents cant farm without losing half their health.
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nvm, already answered multiple times
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On April 02 2012 20:21 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
You hit w and q immediately after. Essentially you hit wq like you're typing, the only problem is you HAVE to be in w range otherwise you'll just walk towards your target and then q the ground like a retard. Everyone has seen the alistar who walks towards the target then pulvs the ground saying "wtf."
I feel like I'm in one of those old "Southwest Airlines: wanna get away?" commercials when I do this T_T
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On April 03 2012 02:11 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 02:09 JackDino wrote:On April 03 2012 02:08 Zhiroo wrote:
So I'm thinking of buying support runes. Should I do it or not? I like playing support but sometimes I just get bad AD carries that make me wanna punch a baby. I'm ranging between 900-1000 Elo atm. Run AD runes and just cheese your opponents out of lane, or just dont play support at all, not worth it at that elo. Or run zilean with full ap runes. Laugh as your opponents cant farm without losing half their health.
Whenever I play blind pick and I'm against a zilean+something agressive bot I get sad, that shit is so annoying.
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On April 03 2012 02:08 Zhiroo wrote:
So I'm thinking of buying support runes. Should I do it or not? I like playing support but sometimes I just get bad AD carries that make me wanna punch a baby. I'm ranging between 900-1000 Elo atm.
Thing is the other AD carry should suck balls as well.
You pick a good support you can just win games because you have better map control and support in bot lane skirmishes.
When I first started playing I carry myself out of the proverbial "Elo hell" with Soraka. Even if youre team getting stomped good warding and solid babysitting (aka "looks guys, we can still win this, we not that far out." or "Good play X, that was awesome. keep it up!") and you can win games even if all three your lanes get rolled.
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Yes, you can carry yourself out of low elo with support too.
Especially since the other support is probably just their lastpick that never really played support, doesn't know how to lane, ward etc.
I personally enjoy duoing with a friend who's a decent AD but consequently drops in elo when playing other roles. Stomp their botlane every game, carry everything.
It's a good feeling to be able to 1v1 their mid as soraka.
Ofc you're screwed if your AD doesn't know how to play at all, but that's life
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its already live, for a day lol
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no lulu yet? D:
On April 03 2012 02:39 emucxg wrote:its already live, for a day lol
not live in na atm o.o
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