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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 02 2012 17:40 GMT
#3341
Was thinking of buying Graves but may hold off and try him out free again this week, yay. Probably going to buy Mundo and save the rest.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 02 2012 17:41 GMT
#3342
On April 03 2012 02:39 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 02:32 Ferrose wrote:
The new free week is posted on the Korean LoL site:

http://leagueoflegends.co.kr/News/update_view.php?idx=43459

+ Show Spoiler +
Leona
Singed
Ashe
Wukong
Zilean
Karthus
Trundle
Tryndamere
Graves
Ziggs


This is a pretty good free week imo. For once it isn't just the same 10-15 champions.

its already live, for a day lol


Not on the NA server. It's still Monday.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 02 2012 17:42 GMT
#3343
Free Trynd Wukong and Singed the same week bunny Riven is released. Going to be some epic top lanes.

Also support Zilean and Leona all week. Awww yea.

But in all seriousness that's a very solid lineup.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 17:43:33
April 02 2012 17:43 GMT
#3344
On April 03 2012 02:40 wussleeQ wrote:
no lulu yet? D:


I'm thinking it'll be next week. Judging by how Lulu took three weeks, and the next champion will take three weeks, maybe Rioto Games is transitioning to three week champion release cycles.

Or maybe they are just delaying new champs because they're too busy working on LoL 3D.

Edit: When were Trundle and Karthus last free? Never?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17296 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 17:47:21
April 02 2012 17:44 GMT
#3345
I got Graves. He's pretty much the only ranged AD I play on my main when I have to AD in ranked (I'm very good at dodging playing AD). He's just really easy to play with a pretty large margin of error.

New champions are always free when the next new champion is released.

On April 03 2012 02:43 Ferrose wrote:
Edit: When were Trundle and Karthus last free? Never?

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Free_champion_rotation
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Champion_Rotation_Schedule_(Season_Two)
twitch.tv/cratonz
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#3346
On April 03 2012 02:40 wussleeQ wrote:
no lulu yet? D:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 02:39 emucxg wrote:
On April 03 2012 02:32 Ferrose wrote:
The new free week is posted on the Korean LoL site:

http://leagueoflegends.co.kr/News/update_view.php?idx=43459

+ Show Spoiler +
Leona
Singed
Ashe
Wukong
Zilean
Karthus
Trundle
Tryndamere
Graves
Ziggs


This is a pretty good free week imo. For once it isn't just the same 10-15 champions.

its already live, for a day lol

not live in na atm o.o

ok, it was in EU =/
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 17:52:15
April 02 2012 17:51 GMT
#3347
On April 03 2012 02:44 Craton wrote:
I got Graves. He's pretty much the only ranged AD I play on my main when I have to AD in ranked (I'm very good at dodging playing AD). He's just really easy to play with a pretty large margin of error.

New champions are always free when the next new champion is released.

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 02:43 Ferrose wrote:
Edit: When were Trundle and Karthus last free? Never?

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Free_champion_rotation
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Champion_Rotation_Schedule_(Season_Two)


Karthus last free: August 30, 2011
Trundle last free: August 2, 2011

So they haven't been free since season one >.>

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Champion_Rotation_Schedule_(Season_One)
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 02 2012 17:59 GMT
#3348
On April 03 2012 02:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yes, you can carry yourself out of low elo with support too.
Especially since the other support is probably just their lastpick that never really played support, doesn't know how to lane, ward etc.

I personally enjoy duoing with a friend who's a decent AD but consequently drops in elo when playing other roles. Stomp their botlane every game, carry everything.
It's a good feeling to be able to 1v1 their mid as soraka.

Ofc you're screwed if your AD doesn't know how to play at all, but that's life


yup, I had like a 90% win rate with Soraka for a solid three four months.

Down to like 60~ though. Turns out I'm not that good at Support... just good enough to lead derp low level players to victory. babysitting OP.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 02 2012 18:00 GMT
#3349
Yay, free Wukong. Smash made me want to try him. Also Leona. Alistar made me want to try those supports.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
April 02 2012 18:03 GMT
#3350
I am gunna try out Support Leona this week ^_^! Yay new stuff for me to does.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
April 02 2012 18:18 GMT
#3351
On April 03 2012 01:35 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 01:26 BlueSpace wrote:
Aura items should go on supports. Supports don't have money because they need to buy wards and don't get farm. Also you need to build HoG/Philo to be able to ward later without taking creeps, that imo is the reason why everything that doesn't build from these items is underused. An Aegis is nice, but effectively it's much more expensive than a Shur. Assume you finished Philo you need an additional 1350g to complete Shur while it takes you 1925g to buy Aegis. Also please keep in mind that supports get less money so 600g is actually a much bigger deal than for the other "farming" roles.
One way to change that would be to have jungle/top/mid/ad buy wards, which would allow your support to itemize better for aura items, which I think would even make sense.

That's what every single decent team is doing. Everyone buys wards.
Not all aura items should necessarily be placed on the support. A support couldn't even buy all the good aura items in a reasonable time frame.

I'm not sure about that... I remember watching yesterday CLG.eu (which I consider decent) and they made fun of Snoopeh for buying more than one ward at a time. But if you say that this is already the mindset of high level teams, than I hope it will swap over to Solo Q at some point.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 02 2012 18:42 GMT
#3352
On April 03 2012 03:18 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 01:35 spinesheath wrote:
On April 03 2012 01:26 BlueSpace wrote:
Aura items should go on supports. Supports don't have money because they need to buy wards and don't get farm. Also you need to build HoG/Philo to be able to ward later without taking creeps, that imo is the reason why everything that doesn't build from these items is underused. An Aegis is nice, but effectively it's much more expensive than a Shur. Assume you finished Philo you need an additional 1350g to complete Shur while it takes you 1925g to buy Aegis. Also please keep in mind that supports get less money so 600g is actually a much bigger deal than for the other "farming" roles.
One way to change that would be to have jungle/top/mid/ad buy wards, which would allow your support to itemize better for aura items, which I think would even make sense.

That's what every single decent team is doing. Everyone buys wards.
Not all aura items should necessarily be placed on the support. A support couldn't even buy all the good aura items in a reasonable time frame.

I'm not sure about that... I remember watching yesterday CLG.eu (which I consider decent) and they made fun of Snoopeh for buying more than one ward at a time. But if you say that this is already the mindset of high level teams, than I hope it will swap over to Solo Q at some point.


Well that the thing.

If everyone buys one ward, no one has to buy five. 75 gold much easier pill to swallow than 375. You watch like TSM TOO buys all the wards, he end up so underfarmed like every game because he wards top, mid (sometimes both sides), and I've even seen him ward bottom for Xpecial before.

You watch CLGeu Wickd buys his own wards, Froggen wards one of his own sides, bot buys their own ward... Whole map warded, and it only costs three creeps every two minutes.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 02 2012 18:42 GMT
#3353
SV is streaming Korean server rightnow and hes up against Manyreason. Now I have something to watch while I wait for ManU to play
Terran
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
April 02 2012 19:00 GMT
#3354
On April 03 2012 03:42 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 03:18 BlueSpace wrote:
On April 03 2012 01:35 spinesheath wrote:
On April 03 2012 01:26 BlueSpace wrote:
Aura items should go on supports. Supports don't have money because they need to buy wards and don't get farm. Also you need to build HoG/Philo to be able to ward later without taking creeps, that imo is the reason why everything that doesn't build from these items is underused. An Aegis is nice, but effectively it's much more expensive than a Shur. Assume you finished Philo you need an additional 1350g to complete Shur while it takes you 1925g to buy Aegis. Also please keep in mind that supports get less money so 600g is actually a much bigger deal than for the other "farming" roles.
One way to change that would be to have jungle/top/mid/ad buy wards, which would allow your support to itemize better for aura items, which I think would even make sense.

That's what every single decent team is doing. Everyone buys wards.
Not all aura items should necessarily be placed on the support. A support couldn't even buy all the good aura items in a reasonable time frame.

I'm not sure about that... I remember watching yesterday CLG.eu (which I consider decent) and they made fun of Snoopeh for buying more than one ward at a time. But if you say that this is already the mindset of high level teams, than I hope it will swap over to Solo Q at some point.


Well that the thing.

If everyone buys one ward, no one has to buy five. 75 gold much easier pill to swallow than 375. You watch like TSM TOO buys all the wards, he end up so underfarmed like every game because he wards top, mid (sometimes both sides), and I've even seen him ward bottom for Xpecial before.

You watch CLGeu Wickd buys his own wards, Froggen wards one of his own sides, bot buys their own ward... Whole map warded, and it only costs three creeps every two minutes.

It's funny you mention TSM, when I first wanted to reply I planned on using them as an example of a team that is high level and has the worst ward practice... but I guess they sadly don't fit the definition of decent atm.

It's not that I don't get the point about the ward sharing. I'm just in doubt that it is really as widespread as others seem to think. I'll just watch out for it more when watching matches in the future.

Regarding odd and TSM... It's a mystery to me how someone can point out mistakes in his own stream while playing SoloQ games and then stay silent and watching his own team doing these mistakes over and over again.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 02 2012 19:07 GMT
#3355
On April 03 2012 04:00 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 03:42 iCanada wrote:
On April 03 2012 03:18 BlueSpace wrote:
On April 03 2012 01:35 spinesheath wrote:
On April 03 2012 01:26 BlueSpace wrote:
Aura items should go on supports. Supports don't have money because they need to buy wards and don't get farm. Also you need to build HoG/Philo to be able to ward later without taking creeps, that imo is the reason why everything that doesn't build from these items is underused. An Aegis is nice, but effectively it's much more expensive than a Shur. Assume you finished Philo you need an additional 1350g to complete Shur while it takes you 1925g to buy Aegis. Also please keep in mind that supports get less money so 600g is actually a much bigger deal than for the other "farming" roles.
One way to change that would be to have jungle/top/mid/ad buy wards, which would allow your support to itemize better for aura items, which I think would even make sense.

That's what every single decent team is doing. Everyone buys wards.
Not all aura items should necessarily be placed on the support. A support couldn't even buy all the good aura items in a reasonable time frame.

I'm not sure about that... I remember watching yesterday CLG.eu (which I consider decent) and they made fun of Snoopeh for buying more than one ward at a time. But if you say that this is already the mindset of high level teams, than I hope it will swap over to Solo Q at some point.


Well that the thing.

If everyone buys one ward, no one has to buy five. 75 gold much easier pill to swallow than 375. You watch like TSM TOO buys all the wards, he end up so underfarmed like every game because he wards top, mid (sometimes both sides), and I've even seen him ward bottom for Xpecial before.

You watch CLGeu Wickd buys his own wards, Froggen wards one of his own sides, bot buys their own ward... Whole map warded, and it only costs three creeps every two minutes.

It's funny you mention TSM, when I first wanted to reply I planned on using them as an example of a team that is high level and has the worst ward practice... but I guess they sadly don't fit the definition of decent atm.

It's not that I don't get the point about the ward sharing. I'm just in doubt that it is really as widespread as others seem to think. I'll just watch out for it more when watching matches in the future.

Regarding odd and TSM... It's a mystery to me how someone can point out mistakes in his own stream while playing SoloQ games and then stay silent and watching his own team doing these mistakes over and over again.

I think it's because Regi and Xpecial are too loud during games they drown everyone else out. TOO probably doesn't feel like there's a point in adding a third voice to the bickering that goes on.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 02 2012 19:11 GMT
#3356
Ranked down in EU because of lag, it seems. I didn't feel much during the last game but there were some spikes at the beginning.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 02 2012 19:13 GMT
#3357
I don't understand why one whould smartcast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17296 Posts
April 02 2012 19:18 GMT
#3358
Because it's significantly faster and lets you do both more and beat the other guy to the punch.
twitch.tv/cratonz
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 02 2012 19:31 GMT
#3359
On April 03 2012 04:13 Erasme wrote:
I don't understand why one whould smartcast.

Try playing a champ like Leblanc without smartcast.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 02 2012 19:37 GMT
#3360
On April 03 2012 01:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 00:43 TheYango wrote:
On April 03 2012 00:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
Jungle doesnt really want it most of the time because there are better buy options for one of the nosr gold starved roles.

You say this all the time, but I honestly think that Aegis is a great item for a gold-starved role, because even just the self-stat efficiency is really good.

You're basically not paying anything in terms of gold-value for the aura because Aegis is self-stat efficient. It's only drawback is that as a 2k gold item, it's not slot-efficient, but the gold-starved nature of junglers means that slot-efficiency doesn't even come into play until later in the game, if at all.

I dont think aegis is bad. I just think other stuff is better.

On offensive types, wriggles, wits, and phage are all mulipurpose items that fit my role better than aegis does. Even Hog fits better IMO.

On support types, you are looking at hog+philo core, which transitions so damn well into a fast shurelias and frozen heart to completely shut down the enemy ad carry before they even get started on their build.

I mean, aegis works on some jungles in some roles. I just dont think that it is ever a must buy in the same way that shurelias, wits, wriggles, randis, and other items are. Especially when you consider that IF shurelias is such a great item that supports should always rush that instead of aegis, why not get it on the jungle who can get it even faster and leave the aegis to the support?


But I will admit I am biased against aegis because I find the entire concept of auras to be a really shitty game mechanic in terms of both skills and items.

ya support get dat frozen heart before the enemy ad carry can even start his build. A true baller has shurelya's too
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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