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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 02 2012 14:32 GMT
#3281
On April 02 2012 23:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
Bekuh is actually pretty damn attractive. I never saw a picture of her before this.

Although I wish HSGG stopped talking in broken english.

behkuk attractive? lol
if they replaced behkuh with locodoco, i probably would bother watch that show.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 02 2012 14:34 GMT
#3282
Thank guys, ofc I am not trying to smartcast just for the sake of it. Played some normal games while I practice smartcast and I like alot since it makes your play smoother in many cases.
Terran
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 02 2012 14:34 GMT
#3283
On April 02 2012 23:32 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 23:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
Bekuh is actually pretty damn attractive. I never saw a picture of her before this.

Although I wish HSGG stopped talking in broken english.

behkuk attractive? lol
if they replaced behkuh with locodoco, i probably would bother watch that show.

Well of course she's no competition for locodoco.
That's like saying she's cuter than Nada
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 14:38:27
April 02 2012 14:35 GMT
#3284
On April 02 2012 23:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 22:56 Juicyfruit wrote:
Soul shroud is so underused it's actually a little mindblowing.

As Craton mentioned earlier, the CDR aura is only useful if your team members cast their spells while in range of you. CDR only applies at the moment of cast time, so if they cast something then move into range of you it does nothing. There's also the problem that Soul Shroud is competing with many other very good items in its price range. In fact, it's even more expensive than Shurelya, Aegis and Locket which makes it less appealing. For most games, you're not going to have enough money as the ward bitch to buy more than two big items. In fact, you might not even finish your boots upgrade. It also doesn't have an obvious item progression path. For instance, Shurlya and Locket build out of your gp10 items and Aegis is cheap enough that it's generally ok to float the component parts in your inventory.


I feel like those justifications are a little weak. On one hand, CDR is only useful if teammates cast their spells in range of you, but on the flip side as soon as they cast their spell in range of you and they leave the range aftewards they still get the full benefit of the 10% CDR. When it comes to end-game fights, soul shroud aura is largely more significant than aegis. Having the gap closers/escapes/cc slightly faster is a pretty big deal.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 02 2012 14:35 GMT
#3285
On April 02 2012 23:32 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 23:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
Bekuh is actually pretty damn attractive. I never saw a picture of her before this.

Although I wish HSGG stopped talking in broken english.

behkuk attractive? lol
if they replaced behkuh with locodoco, i probably would bother watch that show.

Don't find her attractive either but she seems to care for Hotshot alot. I once watch Hotshot stream and she was spoon feeding for Hotshot lol.
Terran
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 02 2012 14:36 GMT
#3286
Soul Shroud has the same issue as Tiamat, which is that it provides early game utility, but way too much stats which drive it so expensive you cant get it early game.

Health Mana Regen and CDR are great for lane, but it gives fucxking 520 health, which is way more than you need. If they just changed the recipe or reduced the combine cost a huge amount, and reduced the health by like half, I would buy it all the time in mana hungry lanes.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 02 2012 14:41 GMT
#3287
On April 02 2012 23:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 23:32 emucxg wrote:
On April 02 2012 23:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
Bekuh is actually pretty damn attractive. I never saw a picture of her before this.

Although I wish HSGG stopped talking in broken english.

behkuk attractive? lol
if they replaced behkuh with locodoco, i probably would bother watch that show.

Well of course she's no competition for locodoco.
That's like saying she's cuter than Nada

well, im not badmouthing her
she is cute(and all asian girl are cute lol), also she always put tons of makeups to her face...
loco makes the show fun to watch, behkuh is boring =/ she wasnt even translating
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
April 02 2012 14:41 GMT
#3288
Man...to have Kim Carrier commentate you play. Living the dream
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 02 2012 14:44 GMT
#3289
On April 02 2012 23:41 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 23:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 02 2012 23:32 emucxg wrote:
On April 02 2012 23:29 Two_DoWn wrote:
Bekuh is actually pretty damn attractive. I never saw a picture of her before this.

Although I wish HSGG stopped talking in broken english.

behkuk attractive? lol
if they replaced behkuh with locodoco, i probably would bother watch that show.

Well of course she's no competition for locodoco.
That's like saying she's cuter than Nada

well, im not badmouthing her
she is cute(and all asian girl are cute lol), also she always put tons of makeups to her face...
loco makes the show fun to watch, behkuh is boring =/ she wasnt even translating

I'm not badmouthing her either, just making your post look a bit more homo than it was, and making myself look way more homo than I am.
Worth it
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
April 02 2012 14:44 GMT
#3290
Did I miss some sort of Jax buff in the last 3 days or something? Place is flooded with jaxeses ...
KCCO!
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 02 2012 14:45 GMT
#3291
Grandfisher Fizz looks like Pax Jax. Keeps confusing me on streams.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
April 02 2012 14:47 GMT
#3292
behkuk should translate what the korean guy is saying.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 14:50:19
April 02 2012 14:48 GMT
#3293
Bekhuh needs to hit the gym. Then she will be attractive again.

Also, hotshot is embarassing USA with his play.
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
April 02 2012 14:54 GMT
#3294
recently discovered the #zen community on eu-west. really great if you want to find players that don't flame and rage. soo much better than soloq.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 02 2012 14:56 GMT
#3295
On April 02 2012 23:48 0123456789 wrote:
Bekhuh needs to hit the gym. Then she will be attractive again.

Also, hotshot is embarassing USA with his play.

I assume you have a folder full of pics?

Also, this Graves has worse positioning then I do playing AD carries lol.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 15:12:31
April 02 2012 14:59 GMT
#3296
Too hard to find people's pics. I use google.

[image loading]

She looked good when she looked like this
[image loading]

Now, it's like ....... no more hot LoL girls, back to real life girls.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 15:08:24
April 02 2012 15:00 GMT
#3297
On April 02 2012 23:36 sob3k wrote:
Health Mana Regen and CDR are great for lane, but it gives fucxking 520 health, which is way more than you need. If they just changed the recipe or reduced the combine cost a huge amount, and reduced the health by like half, I would buy it all the time in mana hungry lanes.

What? CDR is a great stat lategame. It does very little in lane because you're not chain-casting things on CD in lane.

Any one of your 5 team members being able to get off an extra round of abilities can be absolutely game-changing in a lategame teamfight.

On April 02 2012 23:01 Two_DoWn wrote:
Locket just a bad version of pipe from Dota. It would be much cooler if it blocked like 350-400 magic damage only. Be a sort of AOE/dual ap/super magic initiation blocker type item.

Also is sound messed up for anyone else on the carry stream?

I don't think they even have to go that far. The Most awkward thing about Locket is the level-scaling portion of the active, because Supports are likely to be the lowest level in the game. If they make it shield like 180 HP flat, rather than 50+10 per level.
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zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
April 02 2012 15:01 GMT
#3298
On April 02 2012 23:25 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 23:15 zodde wrote:
On April 02 2012 22:49 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On April 02 2012 22:30 Caphe wrote:
I have a question about smart cast. I've been playing on and off for over a year now. I am currently 1500+ elo and I've never used smart cast -_-. I have no doubt that smart cast is better than normal cast in many situation. I want to start practice it.
So please tell me your tips when using smart cast as well as which champs really benifit from it and which don't.
Thanks a bunch!!

  • Anything which is a targeted point and click spell (e.g. Annie Q) should be smart cast. Cutting off that extra 0.5s in trades when casting helps a lot. Especially if your CDs are low. (hi Ryze)
  • Skillshots at high ping. I can understand if you don't want to smart cast some skill shots and want to line them up right though (e.g. Ashe Arrow, Ez Ult). But for the most part, it helps a lot. Ez Q in particular feels much more responsive when smart cast.
  • Don't smart cast Rumble Ult. WAY too easy to mess that up lololol. Rumble Ult is a nightmare if you accidentally twitch your mouse in the wrong direction and it whiffs completely. Also, I'd avoid smart casting Anivia Wall for similar reasons too, although it still can be done.


Could be wrong, but Viktor's E has the same kind of targeting as Rumble's Ult, right? Never played viktor, but I'd guess you'd leave that one off smartcast as well.


Viktor E is actually IMO one of the best skills to smartcast in the game. It has no cast time so you want to cast it quickly while kiting, and it works great for smartcast, you just hit E then flick the mouse in the direction you want, works really well. Also reduces keystrokes from 3 to 1. I have had huge success with Viktor when everyone was complaining about his laning, and I think its because I have a much easier time landing E's. I hit a much higher percentage of them than most other skillshots because they are hard to dodge due to the enemy not being able to tell what direction they will move in, and the lack of any casting animation.

Rumble ult got a bad rep with smartcast from a while back because it was glitched and didnt work properly with smartcast, but they have fixed that supposedly. I don't play Rumble so I don't know.


Oh, guess I haven't played Viktor enough (1 game during free week...). Haven't played rumble since they fixed his ult with smartcast either I think, so maybe I'm talking out of my ass.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 02 2012 15:07 GMT
#3299
On April 02 2012 23:35 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 23:18 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On April 02 2012 22:56 Juicyfruit wrote:
Soul shroud is so underused it's actually a little mindblowing.

As Craton mentioned earlier, the CDR aura is only useful if your team members cast their spells while in range of you. CDR only applies at the moment of cast time, so if they cast something then move into range of you it does nothing. There's also the problem that Soul Shroud is competing with many other very good items in its price range. In fact, it's even more expensive than Shurelya, Aegis and Locket which makes it less appealing. For most games, you're not going to have enough money as the ward bitch to buy more than two big items. In fact, you might not even finish your boots upgrade. It also doesn't have an obvious item progression path. For instance, Shurlya and Locket build out of your gp10 items and Aegis is cheap enough that it's generally ok to float the component parts in your inventory.


I feel like those justifications are a little weak. On one hand, CDR is only useful if teammates cast their spells in range of you, but on the flip side as soon as they cast their spell in range of you and they leave the range aftewards they still get the full benefit of the 10% CDR. When it comes to end-game fights, soul shroud aura is largely more significant than aegis. Having the gap closers/escapes/cc slightly faster is a pretty big deal.


That Soul Shroud's aura might be slightly better than Aegis late game is practically meaningless. Soul Shroud isn't competing with Aegis, it's competing with Shurelya's. So:
  • You don't build Soul Shroud first because Shurelya's is ridiculously better as an item, both in build path and actual usefulness.
  • You don't build Soul Shroud second because doubling up on health items is bad on support champions, you need other defenses to survive.
  • You don't build Soul Shroud third because many of its stats are geared toward laning, and in the late game there are simply better items to start building if you even have the gold to think about a third item.

Soul Shroud isn't underused, it just doesn't fit into most sensible item builds.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 02 2012 15:12 GMT
#3300
Only build Soul Shroud on the all-in fast push teams IMO.
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