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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On April 02 2012 18:53 tyCe wrote: No, you're not bad. I couldn't hit it on 180ms ping. Then I played on 50ms and I hit it everytime. It felt amazing lol. No one is as bad as hotshot, not even elementz when it comes to alis. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 02 2012 19:04 JackDino wrote: No one is as bad as hotshot, not even elementz when it comes to alis. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDMQZgSZjpU Rofl, good video. even playing at like 80-90ms i can only hit it 2/3 of the time(usually when i really need it i'll hit it though) | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
Can do it most of the time now on 200 ping. I like the one where Hotshot chickens out and decides he can't do it anymore.  | ||
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necrosed
Brazil885 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
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jtype
England2167 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On April 02 2012 20:21 SnK-Arcbound wrote: You hit w and q immediately after. Essentially you hit wq like you're typing, the only problem is you HAVE to be in w range otherwise you'll just walk towards your target and then q the ground like a retard. Everyone has seen the alistar who walks towards the target then pulvs the ground saying "wtf." It's no different than a flash pulv, execpt with greater range at the cost of not having your w for an additional second of cc. yep, this is exactly what I was talking about  . But the Flash Q W back to tower is still my favourite lol. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 02 2012 20:21 SnK-Arcbound wrote: You hit w and q immediately after. Essentially you hit wq like you're typing, the only problem is you HAVE to be in w range otherwise you'll just walk towards your target and then q the ground like a retard. Everyone has seen the alistar who walks towards the target then pulvs the ground saying "wtf." It's no different than a flash pulv, execpt with greater range at the cost of not having your w for an additional second of cc. This. I usually mess some when I have lags or am only more or less in range so I'll take two steps then pulv. And then there's the game with the perfect first opportunity and I realize too late I didn't set up W on smartcast and I fail. Cow still super fun, and contrary to post-multi-nerfs Sona I feel I'm actually doing something now. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
Then again, I have pretty good ping, so I never have a problem. The only issues I get are when I preemptively press q, but that maybe happens once out of every dozen ganks or so, and most of the times the reason is because the opponent either used ghost, flash, or some other escape skill that prevented me from w'ing to them. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On April 02 2012 20:47 Alaric wrote: This. I usually mess some when I have lags or am only more or less in range so I'll take two steps then pulv. And then there's the game with the perfect first opportunity and I realize too late I didn't set up W on smartcast and I fail. Cow still super fun, and contrary to post-multi-nerfs Sona I feel I'm actually doing something now. I think Sona is underplayed at the moment. They hit her damage and now everybody thinks that she is useless although in my opinion she has more to offer than just damage on her q. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
From what I've interpreted of the competitive comps picked lately, it seems the meta values very strong points and lack of glaring weaknesses more than having no weaknesses at the expense of specialization. I think for example that the sustain nerfs helped seeing more non-sustain supports like Nunu, Leona, Janna, the latter is now a very popular and valuable pick because despite the lack of sustain (and her somewhat high mana costs I think) she has very strong points in her cc and passive. Sona used to bring the best damage/poke, and strong (if very mana-hungry) defense via her aura + heal. Now I actually prefer sustaining as Alistar, if only because I don't go oom to give back 50% of its life to my carry—and the aura took a big hit, it's actually not that noticeable at level 1 or 2. She doesn't have cc except her ult and her E-powerchord, non-sustain supports seeing more light comparatively overshadow her damage... I don't think she brings anything to the table really anymore. Just determine what it is which you want for you lane, and take the best for that, who won't be Sona. It's making me kinda sad, tho. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
She's still a baller support for a poke/zone lane with champs like Ez or Cait, her ult is still great in teamfights, and she still has the second best AD-sustain for supports. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
Patch Notes (Nautilus): Power Chord damage adjusted to 10 per level from 14 + 9 per level Hymn of Valor passive attack damage and ability power aura reduced at earlier ranks to 4/8/12/16/20 from 8/11/14/17/20 Aria of Perseverance passive armor and magic resist aura reduced at earlier ranks to 3/6/9/12/15 from 7/9/11/13/15 Song of Celerity passive movement speed aura reduced at earlier ranks to 4/8/12/16/20 from 8/11/14/17/20 So I think that she is still strong as soon as you hit the later phase of laning but you don't have that insane lvl1/2 damage on her anymore. I used to start with q but now I'm experimenting with w and even e. Although e needs a non-retarded ad, that actually knows when to chase to get a few more shots in after the power chord slow and that usually doesn't work in solo q. | ||
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