I can hit 3-4 headbutt pulvs at the start of the game, then brag about how I hit all of them, then continue to miss every single one for the rest of the game.

TheLink

Australia2725 Posts

April 02 2012 10:25 GMT

#3244

Spent a good 4 hours straight practising nothing but alistar combos vs bots.
Can do it most of the time now on 200 ping.

I like the one where Hotshot chickens out and decides he can't do it anymore.

necrosed

Brazil885 Posts

April 02 2012 10:43 GMT

#3245

I can hit the ali combo 100% with 200ish ping.

emucxg

Finland4559 Posts

April 02 2012 10:48 GMT

#3246

headbutt is easier than throwing gold card as TF imho

nojitosunrise

United States6188 Posts

April 02 2012 10:50 GMT

#3247

it doesn't matter how many headbutts you hit....all that matters to your teammates is the critical one that you messed up.

jtype

England2167 Posts

April 02 2012 10:58 GMT

#3248

Same can be said for Bliz hooks too.

Caphe

Vietnam10817 Posts

April 02 2012 11:10 GMT

#3249

I normally can do the heatbutt combo no problem, but I tend to miss went the target is just barely in range cos after I hit W I hit Q like crazy and that mess up the combo -_-.

SnK-Arcbound

United States4423 Posts

April 02 2012 11:21 GMT

#3250

You hit w and q immediately after. Essentially you hit wq like you're typing, the only problem is you HAVE to be in w range otherwise you'll just walk towards your target and then q the ground like a retard. Everyone has seen the alistar who walks towards the target then pulvs the ground saying "wtf." It's no different than a flash pulv, execpt with greater range at the cost of not having your w for an additional second of cc.

Caphe

Vietnam10817 Posts

April 02 2012 11:42 GMT

#3251

On April 02 2012 20:21 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
You hit w and q immediately after. Essentially you hit wq like you're typing, the only problem is you HAVE to be in w range otherwise you'll just walk towards your target and then q the ground like a retard. Everyone has seen the alistar who walks towards the target then pulvs the ground saying "wtf." It's no different than a flash pulv, execpt with greater range at the cost of not having your w for an additional second of cc.

yep, this is exactly what I was talking about

. But the Flash Q W back to tower is still my favourite lol.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

April 02 2012 11:47 GMT

#3252

This. I usually mess some when I have lags or am only more or less in range so I'll take two steps then pulv.
And then there's the game with the perfect first opportunity and I realize too late I didn't set up W on smartcast and I fail.

Cow still super fun, and contrary to post-multi-nerfs Sona I feel I'm actually doing something now.

Zergneedsfood

United States10671 Posts

April 02 2012 11:50 GMT

#3253

wq is really easy. >.>

Then again, I have pretty good ping, so I never have a problem. The only issues I get are when I preemptively press q, but that maybe happens once out of every dozen ganks or so, and most of the times the reason is because the opponent either used ghost, flash, or some other escape skill that prevented me from w'ing to them.

BlueSpace

Germany2182 Posts

April 02 2012 11:58 GMT

#3254

On April 02 2012 20:47 Alaric wrote:

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I think Sona is underplayed at the moment. They hit her damage and now everybody thinks that she is useless although in my opinion she has more to offer than just damage on her q.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

April 02 2012 12:09 GMT

#3255

I can hit most WQ combos on Alistar as long as I don't have W on smartcast. With W on smartcast I pretty much miss every single combo. It's one of the couple of skills that I always revert back to normal cast.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

April 02 2012 12:26 GMT

#3256

I've been trying to play Sona, but the way they hit both her damage, heal, and auras, she just doesn't feel like she does anything noticeable. Before the nerfs she did everything well, now she's just average at best at everything.
From what I've interpreted of the competitive comps picked lately, it seems the meta values very strong points and lack of glaring weaknesses more than having no weaknesses at the expense of specialization. I think for example that the sustain nerfs helped seeing more non-sustain supports like Nunu, Leona, Janna, the latter is now a very popular and valuable pick because despite the lack of sustain (and her somewhat high mana costs I think) she has very strong points in her cc and passive.

Sona used to bring the best damage/poke, and strong (if very mana-hungry) defense via her aura + heal. Now I actually prefer sustaining as Alistar, if only because I don't go oom to give back 50% of its life to my carry—and the aura took a big hit, it's actually not that noticeable at level 1 or 2. She doesn't have cc except her ult and her E-powerchord, non-sustain supports seeing more light comparatively overshadow her damage... I don't think she brings anything to the table really anymore. Just determine what it is which you want for you lane, and take the best for that, who won't be Sona.

It's making me kinda sad, tho.

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

April 02 2012 12:27 GMT

#3257

Sonas still really good and you're overreacting don't be baby about it. Sure alistar and leona do more damage but they don't provide auras and have to commit to do it. Her healing is pretty damn good and you're forgetting her auras.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

April 02 2012 12:35 GMT

#3258

I think sona would be a much better champ if they just removed her auras and let her go around power cording shit.

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

April 02 2012 12:49 GMT

#3259

Bah, now Sona is just not strong in every single lane anymore and has strong and weak lanes, like it should be.

She's still a baller support for a poke/zone lane with champs like Ez or Cait, her ult is still great in teamfights, and she still has the second best AD-sustain for supports.

BlueSpace

Germany2182 Posts

April 02 2012 12:53 GMT

#3260

I can see where you are coming from but regarding the auras I think you got that backwards. Her early lvl auras were changed a lot and her late game auras are unchanged after the recent nerf.

Patch Notes (Nautilus):
Power Chord damage adjusted to 10 per level from 14 + 9 per level
Hymn of Valor passive attack damage and ability power aura reduced at earlier ranks to 4/8/12/16/20 from 8/11/14/17/20
Aria of Perseverance passive armor and magic resist aura reduced at earlier ranks to 3/6/9/12/15 from 7/9/11/13/15
Song of Celerity passive movement speed aura reduced at earlier ranks to 4/8/12/16/20 from 8/11/14/17/20

So I think that she is still strong as soon as you hit the later phase of laning but you don't have that insane lvl1/2 damage on her anymore. I used to start with q but now I'm experimenting with w and even e. Although e needs a non-retarded ad, that actually knows when to chase to get a few more shots in after the power chord slow and that usually doesn't work in solo q.