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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 29 2012 23:08 GMT
#2341
AP kog works best when you can get him a huge mana pool, with blue buff and lvl 16. It probably won't work against M5 since they can snowball and end the game way before that point, but a very slow pushing team like CLGna it would work wonders against.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 30 2012 00:06 GMT
#2342
IPL showmatch for 300 dollars between TSM and Dig starting now.
http://www.twitch.tv/IPLLoL
CatharsisUT
Profile Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
March 30 2012 00:11 GMT
#2343
So I wanted to bring back a topic today in light of this weeks Megamillions jackpot. For those of you who aren't American (or Americans who haven't seen this news) Megamillions is a multi-state progressive lottery. That means that if there is no winner the next jackpot gets larger each time until someone wins. The jackpot for tomorrow's drawing is $540 million. Naturally, there has been a lot of conversation about this jackpot, and it reminded me so strongly of the LoL subforum.

One camp says that, even with this jackpot, your expected value of a ticket is still a loss. (Here is a great article about the math). The other camp says that yeah, but you might as well buy one ticket, right? It's $540 million! If you buy one ticket your chances of winning are infinitely greater than if you buy no tickets. And then it hit me...

It's crit chance runes.

The logic is exactly the same. You're "unlocking the mechanic" of winning $540 million through Megamillions. So, all you crit chance rune proponents need to get your tickets before tomorrow night.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 30 2012 00:21 GMT
#2344
On March 30 2012 09:11 CatharsisUT wrote:
So I wanted to bring back a topic today in light of this weeks Megamillions jackpot. For those of you who aren't American (or Americans who haven't seen this news) Megamillions is a multi-state progressive lottery. That means that if there is no winner the next jackpot gets larger each time until someone wins. The jackpot for tomorrow's drawing is $540 million. Naturally, there has been a lot of conversation about this jackpot, and it reminded me so strongly of the LoL subforum.

One camp says that, even with this jackpot, your expected value of a ticket is still a loss. (Here is a great article about the math). The other camp says that yeah, but you might as well buy one ticket, right? It's $540 million! If you buy one ticket your chances of winning are infinitely greater than if you buy no tickets. And then it hit me...

It's crit chance runes.

The logic is exactly the same. You're "unlocking the mechanic" of winning $540 million through Megamillions. So, all you crit chance rune proponents need to get your tickets before tomorrow night.

That link is pretty cool.

The single crit rune was T_D's idea. I don't think it's that big of a deal, even though on principal I don't like the idea of one blue and 8 mr blues. Still T_D always has these crazy ideas like towerbuster AD carry.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 30 2012 00:22 GMT
#2345
I wish I had the same chance to win MegaMillions as my chance to crit with crit runes..
derp
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
March 30 2012 00:35 GMT
#2346
The more I play solo Q the more I feel like it's a roll of dice and the out come of most matches are already predetermined in the selection screen. It doesn't matter how much you win your part of the game, someone in your team will feed just as hard if not harder to the opponent. and then their badness will leak out to other lanes and destroys the game. It's just so sad you have to rely so much on luck to win... I'm so mad right now :X
Best Teemo World
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 30 2012 00:37 GMT
#2347
On March 30 2012 09:35 qanik wrote:
The more I play solo Q the more I feel like it's a roll of dice and the out come of most matches are already predetermined in the selection screen. It doesn't matter how much you win your part of the game, someone in your team will feed just as hard if not harder to the opponent. and then their badness will leak out to other lanes and destroys the game. It's just so sad you have to rely so much on luck to win... I'm so mad right now :X


Yeah, I've gotten to the point where I only feel comfortable queuing if laning with a friend, or if a friend is jungling, because I can communicate with them and potentially salvage a bad team, which is nearly every single game.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
March 30 2012 00:37 GMT
#2348
On March 30 2012 09:35 qanik wrote:
The more I play solo Q the more I feel like it's a roll of dice and the out come of most matches are already predetermined in the selection screen. It doesn't matter how much you win your part of the game, someone in your team will feed just as hard if not harder to the opponent. and then their badness will leak out to other lanes and destroys the game. It's just so sad you have to rely so much on luck to win... I'm so mad right now :X

Not true and there is a QQ thread.

It does matter how much you win your part of the game, make your part of your game the whole map. If the badness leaks to other lanes you aren't doing your part.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
March 30 2012 00:40 GMT
#2349
AP mid lulu new OP calling it right now lol
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 30 2012 00:45 GMT
#2350
On March 30 2012 09:21 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 09:11 CatharsisUT wrote:
So I wanted to bring back a topic today in light of this weeks Megamillions jackpot. For those of you who aren't American (or Americans who haven't seen this news) Megamillions is a multi-state progressive lottery. That means that if there is no winner the next jackpot gets larger each time until someone wins. The jackpot for tomorrow's drawing is $540 million. Naturally, there has been a lot of conversation about this jackpot, and it reminded me so strongly of the LoL subforum.

One camp says that, even with this jackpot, your expected value of a ticket is still a loss. (Here is a great article about the math). The other camp says that yeah, but you might as well buy one ticket, right? It's $540 million! If you buy one ticket your chances of winning are infinitely greater than if you buy no tickets. And then it hit me...

It's crit chance runes.

The logic is exactly the same. You're "unlocking the mechanic" of winning $540 million through Megamillions. So, all you crit chance rune proponents need to get your tickets before tomorrow night.

That link is pretty cool.

The single crit rune was T_D's idea. I don't think it's that big of a deal, even though on principal I don't like the idea of one blue and 8 mr blues. Still T_D always has these crazy ideas like towerbuster AD carry.

I actually had a game where my top lane was against a full 20% crit page GP that started brawler gloves. Udyr then bitched after giving FB before minions spawn because of "3 crits in a row." Now obviously it's his fault for not looking at gp's starting stats and guessing what he's running (and also giving the next 3 kills and ending the game 0/7/2), but it's absurd how much crit does even though you lose all the other stats for only a "chance". I'm actually buying a new rune page and going to fill it with crit just because I can (and if it doesn't work I can just build that 40+ mr page I wanted). Most rune pages are jack of all trades anyways, having 20% crit would rape any 15 ad 13 armor 13 mr page someone is running. Considering how much you're rolling the dice with solo queue anyways, I don't see a reason why one extra roll would hurt you at all.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 30 2012 00:46 GMT
#2351
if you are solo mid what is the correct way to help a jungler who is being counter jungled out?
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
March 30 2012 00:48 GMT
#2352
On March 30 2012 09:46 Frolossus wrote:
if you are solo mid what is the correct way to help a jungler who is being counter jungled out?

Go in and kill him. It's your jungle. It's like some guy coming into your house and taking your chocolate.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 30 2012 00:49 GMT
#2353
On March 30 2012 09:11 CatharsisUT wrote:
So I wanted to bring back a topic today in light of this weeks Megamillions jackpot. For those of you who aren't American (or Americans who haven't seen this news) Megamillions is a multi-state progressive lottery. That means that if there is no winner the next jackpot gets larger each time until someone wins. The jackpot for tomorrow's drawing is $540 million. Naturally, there has been a lot of conversation about this jackpot, and it reminded me so strongly of the LoL subforum.

One camp says that, even with this jackpot, your expected value of a ticket is still a loss. (Here is a great article about the math). The other camp says that yeah, but you might as well buy one ticket, right? It's $540 million! If you buy one ticket your chances of winning are infinitely greater than if you buy no tickets. And then it hit me...

It's crit chance runes.

The logic is exactly the same. You're "unlocking the mechanic" of winning $540 million through Megamillions. So, all you crit chance rune proponents need to get your tickets before tomorrow night.

Only if megamillions cost a penny. But ya.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 30 2012 00:50 GMT
#2354
ward the entrance to your wraiths and watch the map, help your jungler when the enemy jungler appears. counterjungling is inherently risky because the enemy is always much closer to setting up a 2v1 fight than you are, when you're caught in their jungle.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 00:54:14
March 30 2012 00:53 GMT
#2355
On March 30 2012 09:11 CatharsisUT wrote:
So I wanted to bring back a topic today in light of this weeks Megamillions jackpot. For those of you who aren't American (or Americans who haven't seen this news) Megamillions is a multi-state progressive lottery. That means that if there is no winner the next jackpot gets larger each time until someone wins. The jackpot for tomorrow's drawing is $540 million. Naturally, there has been a lot of conversation about this jackpot, and it reminded me so strongly of the LoL subforum.

One camp says that, even with this jackpot, your expected value of a ticket is still a loss. (Here is a great article about the math). The other camp says that yeah, but you might as well buy one ticket, right? It's $540 million! If you buy one ticket your chances of winning are infinitely greater than if you buy no tickets. And then it hit me...

It's crit chance runes.

The logic is exactly the same. You're "unlocking the mechanic" of winning $540 million through Megamillions. So, all you crit chance rune proponents need to get your tickets before tomorrow night.


To be fair there is a good argument to getting a few crit chance runes, other than the retarded "unlocking" one. Which is that in a decent bot lane the value of the crit runes comes purely because they are unexpected. Against strong players if your AD suddenly started out doing 5 more AD than the other, you still wouldnt end up killing them (or even getting much CS advantage), as they will use potions/heals and adjust their gameplay to be safe under these damage output conditions, which isnt that hard to do in leagues with tower damage eclipsing these small differences. Its why lanes turn into farm offs in high level play and one extra dorans blade wont result in a 50CS advantage. With the crit chance rune you open up a potential to break this cycle in your favor, trading a generally better but predictable advantage for an unpredictable one, which may actually have more value simply based on the fact that it wont be prepared for or adjusted too.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 30 2012 00:53 GMT
#2356
Or you could read my Guide
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 00:54:51
March 30 2012 00:53 GMT
#2357
On March 30 2012 09:11 CatharsisUT wrote:
So I wanted to bring back a topic today in light of this weeks Megamillions jackpot. For those of you who aren't American (or Americans who haven't seen this news) Megamillions is a multi-state progressive lottery. That means that if there is no winner the next jackpot gets larger each time until someone wins. The jackpot for tomorrow's drawing is $540 million. Naturally, there has been a lot of conversation about this jackpot, and it reminded me so strongly of the LoL subforum.

One camp says that, even with this jackpot, your expected value of a ticket is still a loss. (Here is a great article about the math). The other camp says that yeah, but you might as well buy one ticket, right? It's $540 million! If you buy one ticket your chances of winning are infinitely greater than if you buy no tickets. And then it hit me...

It's crit chance runes.

The logic is exactly the same. You're "unlocking the mechanic" of winning $540 million through Megamillions. So, all you crit chance rune proponents need to get your tickets before tomorrow night.


What's really interesting to me is that people who buy lottery tickets don't just dump that money into speculative stocks with potentially arbitrarily large payouts. With lottery tickets you mathematically know you're an idiot when you buy one, with stocks the math isn't visible so you don't know if it's a bad EV - that's a net improvement. I guess lotto tickets are just more convenient.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
March 30 2012 01:00 GMT
#2358
Double ace in dig vs TSM, IPL casters have to just watch a game with noone alive for a minute LOL.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 01:08:19
March 30 2012 01:04 GMT
#2359
Amazing positioning from TSM in that last fight. A bunch of great arrows from Chaox and getting CLG in the jungle just makes Dyrus and Kennen's ults so stronk.

As a side note, Regi should retire Morgana and just play Kennen. Kennen works so much better with his aggressive playstyle.

EDIT: Oops I didn't realize we had a LR thread for a showmatch
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 30 2012 01:07 GMT
#2360
On March 30 2012 10:00 Treadmill wrote:
Double ace in dig vs TSM, IPL casters have to just watch a game with noone alive for a minute LOL.


Use the other thread yo:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324794&currentpage=2#32
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