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bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 01:21:03
March 30 2012 01:20 GMT
#2361
edit: Nvm.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 30 2012 01:28 GMT
#2362
It's painful listening to TSM argue with each other on their streams. Just terrible.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
March 30 2012 01:30 GMT
#2363
On March 30 2012 10:07 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:00 Treadmill wrote:
Double ace in dig vs TSM, IPL casters have to just watch a game with noone alive for a minute LOL.


Use the other thread yo:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324794&currentpage=2#32

Whoa hey, didn't realize there was a thread made for it. My bad, sorry.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 01:38:10
March 30 2012 01:37 GMT
#2364
Wow I just found out flash has an elo of 2400, which is like, yeah, it doesn't translate and of course he would be high, 2400 is high in any system but we don't know how much...

but he got 2400 in pro matches? The only reason lol gets that high is slow inflation from the massive grinding of pub games slowly pushing ratings up. To have somebody reach a rating of 2400 in a population as small as the number of starcraft progamers is mindblowing.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 30 2012 01:40 GMT
#2365
Suggestions for a 6300 ip champ to buy? I prefer tops and AD carries, <3 mobility.

LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
March 30 2012 01:42 GMT
#2366
On March 30 2012 10:40 Mondeezy wrote:
Suggestions for a 6300 ip champ to buy? I prefer tops and AD carries, <3 mobility.

Vayne. AD Carry with lots of mobility with Tumble, and ult gives tactical stealth disengage. That, and one of the best skins in the game (MonHun Vayne!) is going on sale!
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 30 2012 01:42 GMT
#2367
On March 30 2012 10:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
Wow I just found out flash has an elo of 2400, which is like, yeah, it doesn't translate and of course he would be high, 2400 is high in any system but we don't know how much...

but he got 2400 in pro matches? The only reason lol gets that high is slow inflation from the massive grinding of pub games slowly pushing ratings up. To have somebody reach a rating of 2400 in a population as small as the number of starcraft progamers is mindblowing.


Like THE flash? The terran Bonjwa? He plays LoL?

That is amazing.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 30 2012 01:42 GMT
#2368
On March 30 2012 09:45 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 09:21 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 30 2012 09:11 CatharsisUT wrote:
So I wanted to bring back a topic today in light of this weeks Megamillions jackpot. For those of you who aren't American (or Americans who haven't seen this news) Megamillions is a multi-state progressive lottery. That means that if there is no winner the next jackpot gets larger each time until someone wins. The jackpot for tomorrow's drawing is $540 million. Naturally, there has been a lot of conversation about this jackpot, and it reminded me so strongly of the LoL subforum.

One camp says that, even with this jackpot, your expected value of a ticket is still a loss. (Here is a great article about the math). The other camp says that yeah, but you might as well buy one ticket, right? It's $540 million! If you buy one ticket your chances of winning are infinitely greater than if you buy no tickets. And then it hit me...

It's crit chance runes.

The logic is exactly the same. You're "unlocking the mechanic" of winning $540 million through Megamillions. So, all you crit chance rune proponents need to get your tickets before tomorrow night.

That link is pretty cool.

The single crit rune was T_D's idea. I don't think it's that big of a deal, even though on principal I don't like the idea of one blue and 8 mr blues. Still T_D always has these crazy ideas like towerbuster AD carry.

I actually had a game where my top lane was against a full 20% crit page GP that started brawler gloves. Udyr then bitched after giving FB before minions spawn because of "3 crits in a row." Now obviously it's his fault for not looking at gp's starting stats and guessing what he's running (and also giving the next 3 kills and ending the game 0/7/2), but it's absurd how much crit does even though you lose all the other stats for only a "chance". I'm actually buying a new rune page and going to fill it with crit just because I can (and if it doesn't work I can just build that 40+ mr page I wanted). Most rune pages are jack of all trades anyways, having 20% crit would rape any 15 ad 13 armor 13 mr page someone is running. Considering how much you're rolling the dice with solo queue anyways, I don't see a reason why one extra roll would hurt you at all.


Fun Fact: As long as you're building Infinity Edge Crit Marks/Quints are actually the second best late game runes, the best being AD per Level. The biggest problem I've had experimenting with Crit runes is when you get unwanted crits while last hitting under the tower.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 30 2012 01:44 GMT
#2369
On March 30 2012 10:40 Mondeezy wrote:
Suggestions for a 6300 ip champ to buy? I prefer tops and AD carries, <3 mobility.



Kennen
Leesin
Vayne
Riven
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
March 30 2012 01:44 GMT
#2370
On March 30 2012 10:42 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
Wow I just found out flash has an elo of 2400, which is like, yeah, it doesn't translate and of course he would be high, 2400 is high in any system but we don't know how much...

but he got 2400 in pro matches? The only reason lol gets that high is slow inflation from the massive grinding of pub games slowly pushing ratings up. To have somebody reach a rating of 2400 in a population as small as the number of starcraft progamers is mindblowing.


Like THE flash? The terran Bonjwa? He plays LoL?

That is amazing.

I think he's just comparing how difficult to get 2400 Elo in LoL to Flash getting 2400 Elo in competitive Brood War (i.e. based on pro-BW Elo) considering that the level of skill in professional BW is much higher than Solo Queue LoL.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 30 2012 01:45 GMT
#2371
On March 30 2012 10:42 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:40 Mondeezy wrote:
Suggestions for a 6300 ip champ to buy? I prefer tops and AD carries, <3 mobility.

Vayne. AD Carry with lots of mobility with Tumble, and ult gives tactical stealth disengage. That, and one of the best skins in the game (MonHun Vayne!) is going on sale!


I have Vayne, Fiora, Ahri, Fizz, Talon, Lee Sin, and Kennen from the 6300 champs.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 30 2012 01:45 GMT
#2372
On March 30 2012 10:44 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:42 Praetorial wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
Wow I just found out flash has an elo of 2400, which is like, yeah, it doesn't translate and of course he would be high, 2400 is high in any system but we don't know how much...

but he got 2400 in pro matches? The only reason lol gets that high is slow inflation from the massive grinding of pub games slowly pushing ratings up. To have somebody reach a rating of 2400 in a population as small as the number of starcraft progamers is mindblowing.


Like THE flash? The terran Bonjwa? He plays LoL?

That is amazing.

I think he's just comparing how difficult to get 2400 Elo in LoL to Flash getting 2400 Elo in competitive Brood War (i.e. based on pro-BW Elo) considering that the level of skill in professional BW is much higher than Solo Queue LoL.

Yes, and it is absurd. Flash is unbelievable.
Writer@WriterYamato
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 30 2012 01:46 GMT
#2373
On March 30 2012 10:42 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
Wow I just found out flash has an elo of 2400, which is like, yeah, it doesn't translate and of course he would be high, 2400 is high in any system but we don't know how much...

but he got 2400 in pro matches? The only reason lol gets that high is slow inflation from the massive grinding of pub games slowly pushing ratings up. To have somebody reach a rating of 2400 in a population as small as the number of starcraft progamers is mindblowing.


Like THE flash? The terran Bonjwa? He plays LoL?

That is amazing.


lol, no he has only time for SC

ELO is a rating system that can be used in any competitive game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system). He is 2400 in SCBW pro games.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 01:59:08
March 30 2012 01:59 GMT
#2374
On March 30 2012 10:46 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:42 Praetorial wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
Wow I just found out flash has an elo of 2400, which is like, yeah, it doesn't translate and of course he would be high, 2400 is high in any system but we don't know how much...

but he got 2400 in pro matches? The only reason lol gets that high is slow inflation from the massive grinding of pub games slowly pushing ratings up. To have somebody reach a rating of 2400 in a population as small as the number of starcraft progamers is mindblowing.


Like THE flash? The terran Bonjwa? He plays LoL?

That is amazing.


lol, no he has only time for SC

ELO is a rating system that can be used in any competitive game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system). He is 2400 in SCBW pro games.

Also its not ELO. ELO = Electric Light Orchestra, a '70s british prog rock group. The Elo system isn't an acronym or anything, its named after its maker, some hungarian guy named Mister Elo.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 30 2012 02:23 GMT
#2375
On March 30 2012 10:59 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:46 sob3k wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:42 Praetorial wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
Wow I just found out flash has an elo of 2400, which is like, yeah, it doesn't translate and of course he would be high, 2400 is high in any system but we don't know how much...

but he got 2400 in pro matches? The only reason lol gets that high is slow inflation from the massive grinding of pub games slowly pushing ratings up. To have somebody reach a rating of 2400 in a population as small as the number of starcraft progamers is mindblowing.


Like THE flash? The terran Bonjwa? He plays LoL?

That is amazing.


lol, no he has only time for SC

ELO is a rating system that can be used in any competitive game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system). He is 2400 in SCBW pro games.

Also its not ELO. ELO = Electric Light Orchestra, a '70s british prog rock group. The Elo system isn't an acronym or anything, its named after its maker, some hungarian guy named Mister Elo.


I actually know that, people always end up capsing it anyway. Makes it easier to read so whatever.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 02:26:00
March 30 2012 02:25 GMT
#2376
The two elos are largely not comparable. Koreans don't even recognize the elo system, it is TL's own measurement system. And oddly enough, TL's elo system begins at 2000, not 1200. A population as small as BW's would not produce a 2400 from a normal elo system.
There is but one truth.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 30 2012 02:51 GMT
#2377
On March 30 2012 11:25 Ecrilon wrote:
The two elos are largely not comparable. Koreans don't even recognize the elo system, it is TL's own measurement system. And oddly enough, TL's elo system begins at 2000, not 1200. A population as small as BW's would not produce a 2400 from a normal elo system.


Oh my god that makes so much more sense.

I couldn't even comprehend how you would get 2400 from such a small population starting with 1200 or 1600 which is where I've seen other elo systems start. My mind had just blown out of the top my skull, I could not understand it.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
March 30 2012 03:40 GMT
#2378
On March 30 2012 10:45 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:42 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:40 Mondeezy wrote:
Suggestions for a 6300 ip champ to buy? I prefer tops and AD carries, <3 mobility.

Vayne. AD Carry with lots of mobility with Tumble, and ult gives tactical stealth disengage. That, and one of the best skins in the game (MonHun Vayne!) is going on sale!


I have Vayne, Fiora, Ahri, Fizz, Talon, Lee Sin, and Kennen from the 6300 champs.


Buy MF. She can top, she can ad, and has great mobility, and takes a lot of skills to dominate every lane she is in. And scales really hard late game compared to other carries.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 30 2012 03:42 GMT
#2379
Whilst the topic of BW progamers is at hand, even though I'm a fan of SC2 I'd love to see a lot of the BW legends play some LoL. It doesn't make any sense that they would other than that Korea is getting hooked on LoL, but having a lineup of Flash, Bisu, Stork, Fantasy, Jaedong as a competitive LoL team would make me weep.
Hey! How you doin'?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 30 2012 04:21 GMT
#2380
On March 30 2012 10:45 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 10:42 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On March 30 2012 10:40 Mondeezy wrote:
Suggestions for a 6300 ip champ to buy? I prefer tops and AD carries, <3 mobility.

Vayne. AD Carry with lots of mobility with Tumble, and ult gives tactical stealth disengage. That, and one of the best skins in the game (MonHun Vayne!) is going on sale!


I have Vayne, Fiora, Ahri, Fizz, Talon, Lee Sin, and Kennen from the 6300 champs.


Riven. Most fun I have in the game. How could you go wrong hopscotching with a greatsword?
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