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On March 28 2012 16:57 Bambipwnsu wrote:
what types of bot lanes is blitzcrank good against? How does he fair against janna/soraka/taric.. etc?
Blitz is god of lvl 1, so invade all of the time.
How well your lane will go depends entirely on how often you land your hooks. If the other team is smart they will position themselves behind creeps to block line of sight. Soraka is a weaker lane against Blitz imo. If you get a pull on Soraka or her AD you can burst them down pretty fast, as Soraka heal is outranged by Blitz hook.
Though I really like Morg support vs a Blitz support lane.
E hooks all day long.
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On March 28 2012 16:57 Bambipwnsu wrote:
what types of bot lanes is blitzcrank good against? How does he fair against janna/soraka/taric.. etc?
typically what i've seen from tournament play is that a blitzcrank pick is countered by janna + boots start. the movespeed granted by her passive + boots makes dodging hooks much easier. combined with the fact that she can knock up both of you while her AD escapes, janna is definitely a blitz counter
on the contrary, most of the damage in a blitz lane is done through burst, which soraka is weak against. blitz good pick against soraka.
i feel like lulu will prove to be incredibly strong against blitz, but who isn't she strong against?
the last time i saw a sona lane v a blitz lane, sona lane had the advantage just due to sona being #1. but since her slight nerfs then slight re-buffs, i have literally not seen her in a game, so i can't comment anymore
taric is probably break-even, it just depends on who is the more successful aggressor. karma loses to blitz. zil can go either way depending on hooks. leona is probably pro-blitz when blitz hooks AD, pro-leona when blitz hooks leona because you're basically forced to focus whoever he hooks, so if you hook leona that's what she wants. nunu is a skill-shot matchup for sure - if you miss hooks you won't win.
basically blitz is good against taric, karma, zil, soraka, and nunu assuming you can hit hooks. it's weak against janna + lulu regardless, and weak against everyone if you can't hit hooks IMO
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On March 28 2012 16:59 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 15:14 Sandster wrote:On March 28 2012 15:12 BlackMagister wrote:
The point still was the guy wants the most universal rune page possible. Flat MR is match up specific while all lanes will benefit from mr per level because they will need mr in team fights. That makes no sense. He wants the most universal rune page possible, and flat MR lets you survive every lane and situation at the cost of some MR later in the game. no, the majority of damage done in ALL lanes in the early-game is physical, regardless of the matchup. more auto attack damage is traded that magic damage. if you have a very specific need for MR (i.e. against cass or ryze), then flat MR is very good, but against 85% of lanes, mr/level is definitely more universal. i can't even think of 10 champs i'd want flat MR against tbh
There are some matchups you need flat mr or flat mr is really good against, there's not a single matchup mr/lvl is required for. How does that make mr/lvl more universal. Flat MR ALWAYS good, mr/lvl most of the time better. Even if 85% of the damage is physical, flat mr will be better against any mage over mr/lvl in lane.
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On March 28 2012 17:08 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 16:59 gtrsrs wrote:On March 28 2012 15:14 Sandster wrote:On March 28 2012 15:12 BlackMagister wrote:
The point still was the guy wants the most universal rune page possible. Flat MR is match up specific while all lanes will benefit from mr per level because they will need mr in team fights. That makes no sense. He wants the most universal rune page possible, and flat MR lets you survive every lane and situation at the cost of some MR later in the game. no, the majority of damage done in ALL lanes in the early-game is physical, regardless of the matchup. more auto attack damage is traded that magic damage. if you have a very specific need for MR (i.e. against cass or ryze), then flat MR is very good, but against 85% of lanes, mr/level is definitely more universal. i can't even think of 10 champs i'd want flat MR against tbh There are some matchups you need flat mr or flat mr is really good against, there's not a single matchup mr/lvl is required for. How does that make mr/lvl more universal. Flat MR ALWAYS good, mr/lvl most of the time better. Even if 85% of the damage is physical, flat mr will be better against any mage over mr/lvl in lane.
ther'es not a single matchup that ANY rune is required for though, so your argument is pretty null
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On March 28 2012 17:04 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 16:57 Bambipwnsu wrote:
what types of bot lanes is blitzcrank good against? How does he fair against janna/soraka/taric.. etc? typically what i've seen from tournament play is that a blitzcrank pick is countered by janna + boots start. the movespeed granted by her passive + boots makes dodging hooks much easier. combined with the fact that she can knock up both of you while her AD escapes, janna is definitely a blitz counter on the contrary, most of the damage in a blitz lane is done through burst, which soraka is weak against. blitz good pick against soraka. i feel like lulu will prove to be incredibly strong against blitz, but who isn't she strong against? the last time i saw a sona lane v a blitz lane, sona lane had the advantage just due to sona being #1. but since her slight nerfs then slight re-buffs, i have literally not seen her in a game, so i can't comment anymore taric is probably break-even, it just depends on who is the more successful aggressor. karma loses to blitz. zil can go either way depending on hooks. leona is probably pro-blitz when blitz hooks AD, pro-leona when blitz hooks leona because you're basically forced to focus whoever he hooks, so if you hook leona that's what she wants. nunu is a skill-shot matchup for sure - if you miss hooks you won't win. basically blitz is good against taric, karma, zil, soraka, and nunu assuming you can hit hooks. it's weak against janna + lulu regardless, and weak against everyone if you can't hit hooks IMO
It depens on the enemy team. If your botlane is smart then blitzcrank is not so good. But if someone gets grabbed its nearly everytime a kill or flash use. Blitzcrank does some nice damage if you play semi support.
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On March 28 2012 17:12 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 17:08 JackDino wrote:On March 28 2012 16:59 gtrsrs wrote:On March 28 2012 15:14 Sandster wrote:On March 28 2012 15:12 BlackMagister wrote:
The point still was the guy wants the most universal rune page possible. Flat MR is match up specific while all lanes will benefit from mr per level because they will need mr in team fights. That makes no sense. He wants the most universal rune page possible, and flat MR lets you survive every lane and situation at the cost of some MR later in the game. no, the majority of damage done in ALL lanes in the early-game is physical, regardless of the matchup. more auto attack damage is traded that magic damage. if you have a very specific need for MR (i.e. against cass or ryze), then flat MR is very good, but against 85% of lanes, mr/level is definitely more universal. i can't even think of 10 champs i'd want flat MR against tbh There are some matchups you need flat mr or flat mr is really good against, there's not a single matchup mr/lvl is required for. How does that make mr/lvl more universal. Flat MR ALWAYS good, mr/lvl most of the time better. Even if 85% of the damage is physical, flat mr will be better against any mage over mr/lvl in lane. ther'es not a single matchup that ANY rune is required for though, so your argument is pretty null
I don't know, you're going to have a preeetty rough time vs a Pantheon when you start with 14 armor
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On March 28 2012 17:12 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 17:08 JackDino wrote:On March 28 2012 16:59 gtrsrs wrote:On March 28 2012 15:14 Sandster wrote:On March 28 2012 15:12 BlackMagister wrote:
The point still was the guy wants the most universal rune page possible. Flat MR is match up specific while all lanes will benefit from mr per level because they will need mr in team fights. That makes no sense. He wants the most universal rune page possible, and flat MR lets you survive every lane and situation at the cost of some MR later in the game. no, the majority of damage done in ALL lanes in the early-game is physical, regardless of the matchup. more auto attack damage is traded that magic damage. if you have a very specific need for MR (i.e. against cass or ryze), then flat MR is very good, but against 85% of lanes, mr/level is definitely more universal. i can't even think of 10 champs i'd want flat MR against tbh There are some matchups you need flat mr or flat mr is really good against, there's not a single matchup mr/lvl is required for. How does that make mr/lvl more universal. Flat MR ALWAYS good, mr/lvl most of the time better. Even if 85% of the damage is physical, flat mr will be better against any mage over mr/lvl in lane. ther'es not a single matchup that ANY rune is required for though, so your argument is pretty null
So you're running gp10 quints and yellows? Since you don't need any runes you might aswell go with those that give you more gold than the opponent right?
Flat MR will always help you out more than mr/lvl early, unless you're vs a pure physical lane.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
How can I get Tristana when I like their facebook page?
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On March 28 2012 17:33 Chexx wrote:
How can I get Tristana when I like their facebook page?
Connect your FB page and your LoL account, get a code for the skin by liking them on Facebook.
The code will give you the Riot Trist Skin, and trist if you don't own her.
Same with Ali and Youtube.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
Does it work for the korean server too? Thanks guys
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On March 28 2012 17:23 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 17:12 gtrsrs wrote:On March 28 2012 17:08 JackDino wrote:On March 28 2012 16:59 gtrsrs wrote:On March 28 2012 15:14 Sandster wrote:On March 28 2012 15:12 BlackMagister wrote:
The point still was the guy wants the most universal rune page possible. Flat MR is match up specific while all lanes will benefit from mr per level because they will need mr in team fights. That makes no sense. He wants the most universal rune page possible, and flat MR lets you survive every lane and situation at the cost of some MR later in the game. no, the majority of damage done in ALL lanes in the early-game is physical, regardless of the matchup. more auto attack damage is traded that magic damage. if you have a very specific need for MR (i.e. against cass or ryze), then flat MR is very good, but against 85% of lanes, mr/level is definitely more universal. i can't even think of 10 champs i'd want flat MR against tbh There are some matchups you need flat mr or flat mr is really good against, there's not a single matchup mr/lvl is required for. How does that make mr/lvl more universal. Flat MR ALWAYS good, mr/lvl most of the time better. Even if 85% of the damage is physical, flat mr will be better against any mage over mr/lvl in lane. ther'es not a single matchup that ANY rune is required for though, so your argument is pretty null So you're running gp10 quints and yellows? Since you don't need any runes you might aswell go with those that give you more gold than the opponent right? Flat MR will always help you out more than mr/lvl early, unless you're vs a pure physical lane.
i could probably run gp10 quints and yellows, play passively, and win most lanes, yeah. and yes, flat MR will help more than mr/level. that's not to say it's needed. HP quints will help against harass more than MS quints will... but you don't see many people running HP quints any more. no rune is required for any lane. some help more than others. flat MR definitely are not as necessary as you make them seem
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On March 28 2012 17:51 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 17:23 JackDino wrote:On March 28 2012 17:12 gtrsrs wrote:On March 28 2012 17:08 JackDino wrote:On March 28 2012 16:59 gtrsrs wrote:On March 28 2012 15:14 Sandster wrote:On March 28 2012 15:12 BlackMagister wrote:
The point still was the guy wants the most universal rune page possible. Flat MR is match up specific while all lanes will benefit from mr per level because they will need mr in team fights. That makes no sense. He wants the most universal rune page possible, and flat MR lets you survive every lane and situation at the cost of some MR later in the game. no, the majority of damage done in ALL lanes in the early-game is physical, regardless of the matchup. more auto attack damage is traded that magic damage. if you have a very specific need for MR (i.e. against cass or ryze), then flat MR is very good, but against 85% of lanes, mr/level is definitely more universal. i can't even think of 10 champs i'd want flat MR against tbh There are some matchups you need flat mr or flat mr is really good against, there's not a single matchup mr/lvl is required for. How does that make mr/lvl more universal. Flat MR ALWAYS good, mr/lvl most of the time better. Even if 85% of the damage is physical, flat mr will be better against any mage over mr/lvl in lane. ther'es not a single matchup that ANY rune is required for though, so your argument is pretty null So you're running gp10 quints and yellows? Since you don't need any runes you might aswell go with those that give you more gold than the opponent right? Flat MR will always help you out more than mr/lvl early, unless you're vs a pure physical lane. i could probably run gp10 quints and yellows, play passively, and win most lanes, yeah. and yes, flat MR will help more than mr/level. that's not to say it's needed. HP quints will help against harass more than MS quints will... but you don't see many people running HP quints any more. no rune is required for any lane. some help more than others. flat MR definitely are not as necessary as you make them seem
Might have come across powerfull, I'd just rather use flat mr over /lvl if I only had 1 runepage.
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On March 28 2012 16:42 Shikyo wrote:
Concerned for him =/= Jealous
Concerned for hotshot? Don't make me laugh. The guy is really rich right now. Having a gf/wife who doesn't work? Who ever heard of that. From what I hear from hotshot stream viewers living with becca is the best thing that ever happened to him. (unless you like the raging)
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I like Urgot free week.
Means I can stomp Urgots all week with Sivir. Trololol.
Urgot can't use E means Urgot can't do damage.
<3
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edit: nvm didn't see the thread
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On March 28 2012 16:39 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 16:36 Shikyo wrote:
Well I didn't really ask her what her title was >_>
PR Director does.. what? Write news 2 times a week? I guess that's a legit profession...
Translator when they have people in the team who know Korean? Yeah.. You sound awfully jealous, do you want to be the mother of hotshot's children instead?
He wouldn't abandon kerp like that.
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On March 28 2012 18:57 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 16:39 JackDino wrote:On March 28 2012 16:36 Shikyo wrote:
Well I didn't really ask her what her title was >_>
PR Director does.. what? Write news 2 times a week? I guess that's a legit profession...
Translator when they have people in the team who know Korean? Yeah.. You sound awfully jealous, do you want to be the mother of hotshot's children instead? He wouldn't abandon kerp like that.
I never said hotshot had to be the father.
Why no one playing cait anymore, still such a strong lane with a taric/leona or even a nunu/janna. Especially leona.
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On March 28 2012 18:59 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 18:57 UniversalSnip wrote:On March 28 2012 16:39 JackDino wrote:On March 28 2012 16:36 Shikyo wrote:
Well I didn't really ask her what her title was >_>
PR Director does.. what? Write news 2 times a week? I guess that's a legit profession...
Translator when they have people in the team who know Korean? Yeah.. You sound awfully jealous, do you want to be the mother of hotshot's children instead? He wouldn't abandon kerp like that. I never said hotshot had to be the father. Why no one playing cait anymore, still such a strong lane with a taric/leona or even a nunu/janna. Especially leona.
Nah, the term ''mother of hotshot's children'' clearly doesn't imply hotshot has to be the father.
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On March 28 2012 19:08 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 18:59 JackDino wrote:On March 28 2012 18:57 UniversalSnip wrote:On March 28 2012 16:39 JackDino wrote:On March 28 2012 16:36 Shikyo wrote:
Well I didn't really ask her what her title was >_>
PR Director does.. what? Write news 2 times a week? I guess that's a legit profession...
Translator when they have people in the team who know Korean? Yeah.. You sound awfully jealous, do you want to be the mother of hotshot's children instead? He wouldn't abandon kerp like that. I never said hotshot had to be the father. Why no one playing cait anymore, still such a strong lane with a taric/leona or even a nunu/janna. Especially leona. Nah, the term ''mother of hotshot's children'' clearly doesn't imply hotshot has to be the father.
Get his babies, murder him, marry kerp, live happily ever after with son.
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