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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On March 28 2012 18:59 JackDino wrote: Why no one playing cait anymore, still such a strong lane with a taric/leona or even a nunu/janna. Especially leona. Cait doenst bring much to the table in early / midgame teamskirmishes other then her autoattack. Cant really get bruisers of yourself, you need lategame to dominate. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On March 28 2012 19:24 ihasaKAROT wrote: Cait doenst bring much to the table in early / midgame teamskirmishes other then her autoattack. Cant really get bruisers of yourself, you need lategame to dominate. Early game skirmishes dont matter that much when the other ad carry is underfarmed. Also traps. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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valheru
Australia966 Posts
I think that AP sion is better since the ratios are 0.9 which is sweet and you have a ranged nuke and you are fairly tanky with massive shield and lichbane proc lifesteal, they argue that your ult is amazing on ad sion and you can't die ever and that the E gives you a bunch of free stats for ad. But I think that that means you walk up get cc'd die whereas with ap you can walk up dfg stun have shield and not die so fast. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On March 28 2012 19:33 valheru wrote: Question if anyone would care to answer it. Is AP sion better than AD sion, if so why or why not.? It has kind of divided the group of people I play with. (AD sion being like 3 PDs IE BT and GA) I think that AP sion is better since the ratios are 0.9 which is sweet and you have a ranged nuke and you are fairly tanky with massive shield and lichbane proc lifesteal, they argue that your ult is amazing on ad sion and you can't die ever and that the E gives you a bunch of free stats for ad. But I think that that means you walk up get cc'd die whereas with ap you can walk up dfg stun have shield and not die so fast. Fully equipped, I'd rather have AD Sion because he doesn't ever die, but in fact, chances are you won't ever get him there against competent players. He's no threat at all till late game, while AP Sion can influence the game easily by pushing+roaming. I'd rather have a competent AP Sion on my team. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
AD sion is a great pubstomp lower elo tho  | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On March 28 2012 19:33 valheru wrote: Question if anyone would care to answer it. Is AP sion better than AD sion, if so why or why not.? It has kind of divided the group of people I play with. (AD sion being like 3 PDs IE BT and GA) I think that AP sion is better since the ratios are 0.9 which is sweet and you have a ranged nuke and you are fairly tanky with massive shield and lichbane proc lifesteal, they argue that your ult is amazing on ad sion and you can't die ever and that the E gives you a bunch of free stats for ad. But I think that that means you walk up get cc'd die whereas with ap you can walk up dfg stun have shield and not die so fast. I feel like it's easier to get farmed on AP. Big unkillable shield that one shots every minion in the wave, and good burst and ganking potential. AD I feel like is okay if you get farm, but you do get kited around without a gap closer, and some CC pretty much instantly locks you down if you build that squishy. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Thing is it hard to get AD Sion into the late game without being underfarmed. And when I say AD Sion late game I mean like 5-6 items... before that AP better at pretty much everything. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
Ad Sion: Terrible Laning, Terrible Farming, Terrible Early, Great Late Pick your poison. they're both boring | ||
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Gaslo
Finland951 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On March 28 2012 20:28 Gaslo wrote: Terrible late game? I don't really know about that. Of course there are AP:s that are LOT better, but still. DFG + Q + W is still pretty much a killed carry, and at least on my level staying alive with Sion late is pretty easy, compared to some AP:s. All your damage pretty much mitigated by being focused briefly. Compare that to say and Ahri who can deal more single target burst damage and all of her abilities are AoE at the same time. Compared to every other AP carry late game/Sions early game strength he fall off late. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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pschiu
Singapore410 Posts
That got me thinking, what if Riot indeed made each skin different (more than cosmetically)? Like give one skin +5 AP, another +1% ms, etc. Would the sales of skins increase? Decrease? Would people protest? Does Riot have any official stance on this matter? | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On March 28 2012 20:28 Gaslo wrote: Terrible late game? I don't really know about that. Of course there are AP:s that are LOT better, but still. DFG + Q + W is still pretty much a killed carry, and at least on my level staying alive with Sion late is pretty easy, compared to some AP:s. I would call AP Sion hands down the worst lategame AP in the game.You will never get a shield pop off against a squishy vs anyone who knows how to teamfight, leaving you with a single target 550 range stun nuke with a .9 ratio as your only purpose. Flat out awful. As APsion you rely on getting your team a massive advantage in the midgame by winning all 3 lanes at once, if that fails to work spectacularly you become worthless in a hurry. | ||
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paradigmsort
Canada10 Posts
In that case it would really just be another rune slot with the side effect of alienating people who already bought cosmetic-only skins. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On March 28 2012 21:01 pschiu wrote: I got a friend to watch the current OGN match with me. He asked if there was a difference between which skins were being chosen. That got me thinking, what if Riot indeed made each skin different (more than cosmetically)? Like give one skin +5 AP, another +1% ms, etc. Would the sales of skins increase? Decrease? Would people protest? Does Riot have any official stance on this matter? Everyone would hate it. People who actually only free to play would be pissed because they are weaker than paying players. People who buy skins for looks would be pissed because they are forced to play with the skin with the best stats. Riot pissed because only the one or two best skins for a character would ever be bought and they cant make new skins. everyone loses | ||
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Shanba
Scotland144 Posts
On March 28 2012 21:22 sob3k wrote: Everyone would hate it. People who actually only free to play would be pissed because they are weaker than paying players. People who buy skins for looks would be pissed because they are forced to play with the skin with the best stats. Riot pissed because only the one or two best skins for a character would ever be bought and they cant make new skins. everyone loses Those kinds of small customisations are exactly what masteries are for, anyway. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 And you don't pay for it either. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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