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On March 16 2012 06:37 beefhamburger wrote:
What champs are Dyrus proficient at? Meaning his most comfortable picks. Or is he relatively average at all champs and not excellent at any?
His singed is legendary, but singed gets wrecked against a lot of common top laners nowadays so you won't see it as much. His Jax was also really good, but that was pre-remake/nerf. I haven't seen him play much lately, but from what I used to see and from what I hear he's just a solid top laner all around who has a tendency to afkfarm/split push and rarely loses his lane. I do know that he's a competent GP and he's been playing more Poppy since Zekent.
Thing is, EG hasn't played in like...anything for the longest time so Dyrus hasn't really been able to show what he's best at outside of streaming solo q. His two most famous champs, Singed and Jax, have either been nerfed to the ground or lost popularity/viability due to metagame shifts.
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That's a pretty big issue as well. Outside of solo q and troll tournament qualifiers, no one has seen Dyrus try really hard to show what he's currently good at.
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On March 16 2012 06:17 Sabin010 wrote:
Xerath isn't played for the same reason anivia doesn't see a lot of play. They're just under the radar.
I enjoy playing Yorick a lot which says a lot about my taste for assholes, but I find Xerath boring as hell, though I cannot explain why. His Q and R are skillshots, you can combo with his E, his mana costs and cd always for some spamming. On paper it looks reallt great but in game it doesn't click for me.
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He also plays rumble and Vlad. On their first arranged game, either Regi or Chaox asked him who he plays and his response was "I play everything man." When asked if he could double WotA, re said he can play Vlad Rumble and Kennan, but he prefers the first two.
They all seemed enthused by his flexibility.
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The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.
He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes.
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Xerath has three problems:
- Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
- You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
- His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.
These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.
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On March 16 2012 06:30 BlackMagister wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 06:24 De4ngus wrote:On March 16 2012 06:15 red_ wrote:On March 16 2012 06:11 Lylat wrote:
TOO 0/6/2 Regi 1/6/3, I guess TRM really was the problem... TRM wasn't 'kicked,' nobody said he 'was the problem.' He quit because playing competitively was getting to him, he wasn't enjoying himself, and that was important enough for him to say he's done. They happened to have Dyrus in the house, who had the blessing of his own team to switch it up since they aren't that active themselves, so they probably told TRM it's fine to quit, and it was clearly on amicable terms as he will be staying in the house with them streaming his regular play. well we don't actually know that this is what happened either. the only time we know for sure is when the dude who left decides to stupidly post everyone online and start a flamewar (elementz, phantomlord, etc). however, anyone who watched hanover knows that regi and oddone are tsms problem right now and during scrims and tourneys trm seems to take all the blame. It's been said in various sources by TSM players. TRM still gets to live in the house and they're still on apparently friendly terms. If you want to think there is secret hatred then go ahead, but the even rage at each other has been addressed in Regi's Vlog.
i didnt say anyone hated trm. i just wouldnt be surprised if he was asked to leave.
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On March 16 2012 07:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.
He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes.
Chaox is carryin hard though (8-1 atm).
Oh and TOO #1 Smite.
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On March 16 2012 07:09 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.
He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes. Chaox is carryin hard though (8-1 atm). Oh and TOO #1 Smite.
Yep, this is the TEXTBOOK tsm game. Regi derps in lane but still gets a decent score thanks to repeated ganks, TOO plays like he is the support, and Chaox carries. STANDARD.
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After seeing the sypher urgot run all magic pen and no +ad, ive been kinda wondering if it's not worth it
Sure, you may miss some extra CS under the tower, but maybe if u know that u will be a little worse in last hitting but way stronger later, u will change your playstyle accordingly? Also it makes a lot of sense with janna, since she can just give you +AD..
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On March 16 2012 07:12 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:09 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 16 2012 07:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.
He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes. Chaox is carryin hard though (8-1 atm). Oh and TOO #1 Smite. Yep, this is the TEXTBOOK tsm game. Regi derps in lane but still gets a decent score thanks to repeated ganks, TOO plays like he is the support, and Chaox carries. STANDARD.
I'm totally digging it to see Poppy in competitive play btw.
Dyrus showin that Poppy is just a massive chunk of disruption that will take your carry out.
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On March 16 2012 06:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
That's a pretty big issue as well. Outside of solo q and troll tournament qualifiers, no one has seen Dyrus try really hard to show what he's currently good at.
I thought Dyrus was real strong with CDE at WCG. I could be wrong but I remember him being a monster in some of those games.
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On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:Xerath has three problems: - Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
- You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
- His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.
These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.
Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup.
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On March 16 2012 07:13 OutlaW- wrote:
After seeing the sypher urgot run all magic pen and no +ad, ive been kinda wondering if it's not worth it
Sure, you may miss some extra CS under the tower, but maybe if u know that u will be a little worse in last hitting but way stronger later, u will change your playstyle accordingly? Also it makes a lot of sense with janna, since she can just give you +AD..
Did you mean APen, or is sypher building some crazy magic damage on-hit build?
On March 16 2012 07:18 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:Xerath has three problems: - Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
- You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
- His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.
These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular. Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup.
I wasn't saying that Xerath is sleeper OP, I was simply articulating why he's so unpopular while not being outright horrible. Champions with easy counter-picks still get played at the tournament level when composition allows, but people simply don't like playing Xerath and/or feel other champions do his job better.
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Dyrus doing work in this scrim right now. He's getting focused and dying first, but they are expending so much shit to deal with only him they are winning the team fights by a large margin.
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On March 16 2012 07:15 Lancer723 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 06:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
That's a pretty big issue as well. Outside of solo q and troll tournament qualifiers, no one has seen Dyrus try really hard to show what he's currently good at. I thought Dyrus was real strong with CDE at WCG. I could be wrong but I remember him being a monster in some of those games.
If CDE was an actual team for all tournies, then they would dominate. Everyone.
Dyrus top, Regi mid, and Saint in jungle? Yes please. Plus I think CDE showed that Regi has absurdly strong chemistry with Saint. Plus Regi was playing like the best mid in the world at WCG arguably.
I don't remember their bot lane, but I believe Chauster and Xspecial was the bot lane. That would be a scary team to go up against.
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On March 16 2012 07:20 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Dyrus doing work in this scrim right now. He's getting focused and dying first, but they are expending so much shit to deal with only him they are winning the team fights by a large margin.
It's a 900$ tourney actually, it's 1-1 sypher vs TSM now 
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On March 16 2012 07:23 BobMcJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:20 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Dyrus doing work in this scrim right now. He's getting focused and dying first, but they are expending so much shit to deal with only him they are winning the team fights by a large margin. It's a 900$ tourney actually, it's 1-1 sypher vs TSM now
really? what tourney? link?
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On March 16 2012 07:19 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:13 OutlaW- wrote:
After seeing the sypher urgot run all magic pen and no +ad, ive been kinda wondering if it's not worth it
Sure, you may miss some extra CS under the tower, but maybe if u know that u will be a little worse in last hitting but way stronger later, u will change your playstyle accordingly? Also it makes a lot of sense with janna, since she can just give you +AD.. Did you mean APen, or is sypher building some crazy magic damage on-hit build? Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:18 red_ wrote:On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:Xerath has three problems: - Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
- You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
- His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.
These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular. Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup. I wasn't saying that Xerath is sleeper OP, I was simply articulating why he's so unpopular while not being outright horrible. Champions with easy counter-picks still get played at the tournament level when composition allows, but people simply don't like playing Xerath and/or feel other champions do his job better.
25 apen is normal for urgot lol.
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On March 16 2012 07:14 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:12 mr_tolkien wrote:On March 16 2012 07:09 Doctorbeat wrote:On March 16 2012 07:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.
He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes. Chaox is carryin hard though (8-1 atm). Oh and TOO #1 Smite. Yep, this is the TEXTBOOK tsm game. Regi derps in lane but still gets a decent score thanks to repeated ganks, TOO plays like he is the support, and Chaox carries. STANDARD. I'm totally digging it to see Poppy in competitive play btw. Dyrus showin that Poppy is just a massive chunk of disruption that will take your carry out.
Kind of screwed if they pick Ashe though
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