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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 21:41:52
March 15 2012 21:39 GMT
#3381
On March 16 2012 06:37 beefhamburger wrote:
What champs are Dyrus proficient at? Meaning his most comfortable picks. Or is he relatively average at all champs and not excellent at any?

His singed is legendary, but singed gets wrecked against a lot of common top laners nowadays so you won't see it as much. His Jax was also really good, but that was pre-remake/nerf. I haven't seen him play much lately, but from what I used to see and from what I hear he's just a solid top laner all around who has a tendency to afkfarm/split push and rarely loses his lane. I do know that he's a competent GP and he's been playing more Poppy since Zekent.

Thing is, EG hasn't played in like...anything for the longest time so Dyrus hasn't really been able to show what he's best at outside of streaming solo q. His two most famous champs, Singed and Jax, have either been nerfed to the ground or lost popularity/viability due to metagame shifts.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 15 2012 21:43 GMT
#3382
That's a pretty big issue as well. Outside of solo q and troll tournament qualifiers, no one has seen Dyrus try really hard to show what he's currently good at.
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NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
March 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#3383
On March 16 2012 06:17 Sabin010 wrote:
Xerath isn't played for the same reason anivia doesn't see a lot of play. They're just under the radar.


I enjoy playing Yorick a lot which says a lot about my taste for assholes, but I find Xerath boring as hell, though I cannot explain why. His Q and R are skillshots, you can combo with his E, his mana costs and cd always for some spamming. On paper it looks reallt great but in game it doesn't click for me.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 15 2012 22:00 GMT
#3384
He also plays rumble and Vlad. On their first arranged game, either Regi or Chaox asked him who he plays and his response was "I play everything man." When asked if he could double WotA, re said he can play Vlad Rumble and Kennan, but he prefers the first two.

They all seemed enthused by his flexibility.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 15 2012 22:01 GMT
#3385
The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.

He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes.
The legend of Darien lives on
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 15 2012 22:03 GMT
#3386
Xerath has three problems:
  • Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
  • You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
  • His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.

These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
March 15 2012 22:04 GMT
#3387
On March 16 2012 06:30 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:24 De4ngus wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:15 red_ wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:11 Lylat wrote:
TOO 0/6/2 Regi 1/6/3, I guess TRM really was the problem...


TRM wasn't 'kicked,' nobody said he 'was the problem.' He quit because playing competitively was getting to him, he wasn't enjoying himself, and that was important enough for him to say he's done. They happened to have Dyrus in the house, who had the blessing of his own team to switch it up since they aren't that active themselves, so they probably told TRM it's fine to quit, and it was clearly on amicable terms as he will be staying in the house with them streaming his regular play.

well we don't actually know that this is what happened either. the only time we know for sure is when the dude who left decides to stupidly post everyone online and start a flamewar (elementz, phantomlord, etc). however, anyone who watched hanover knows that regi and oddone are tsms problem right now and during scrims and tourneys trm seems to take all the blame.

It's been said in various sources by TSM players. TRM still gets to live in the house and they're still on apparently friendly terms. If you want to think there is secret hatred then go ahead, but the even rage at each other has been addressed in Regi's Vlog.

i didnt say anyone hated trm. i just wouldnt be surprised if he was asked to leave.
GANDHISAUCE
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 22:11:10
March 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#3388
On March 16 2012 07:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.

He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes.


Chaox is carryin hard though (8-1 atm).

Oh and TOO #1 Smite.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#3389
On March 16 2012 07:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.

He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes.


Chaox is carryin hard though (8-1 atm).

Oh and TOO #1 Smite.

Yep, this is the TEXTBOOK tsm game. Regi derps in lane but still gets a decent score thanks to repeated ganks, TOO plays like he is the support, and Chaox carries. STANDARD.
The legend of Darien lives on
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
March 15 2012 22:13 GMT
#3390
After seeing the sypher urgot run all magic pen and no +ad, ive been kinda wondering if it's not worth it
Sure, you may miss some extra CS under the tower, but maybe if u know that u will be a little worse in last hitting but way stronger later, u will change your playstyle accordingly? Also it makes a lot of sense with janna, since she can just give you +AD..
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#3391
On March 16 2012 07:12 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.

He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes.


Chaox is carryin hard though (8-1 atm).

Oh and TOO #1 Smite.

Yep, this is the TEXTBOOK tsm game. Regi derps in lane but still gets a decent score thanks to repeated ganks, TOO plays like he is the support, and Chaox carries. STANDARD.


I'm totally digging it to see Poppy in competitive play btw.

Dyrus showin that Poppy is just a massive chunk of disruption that will take your carry out.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Lancer723
Profile Joined September 2011
United States486 Posts
March 15 2012 22:15 GMT
#3392
On March 16 2012 06:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
That's a pretty big issue as well. Outside of solo q and troll tournament qualifiers, no one has seen Dyrus try really hard to show what he's currently good at.


I thought Dyrus was real strong with CDE at WCG. I could be wrong but I remember him being a monster in some of those games.
LoL ID - Lancer723 Gold III
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 15 2012 22:18 GMT
#3393
On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:
Xerath has three problems:
  • Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
  • You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
  • His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.

These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.


Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 22:24:08
March 15 2012 22:19 GMT
#3394
On March 16 2012 07:13 OutlaW- wrote:
After seeing the sypher urgot run all magic pen and no +ad, ive been kinda wondering if it's not worth it
Sure, you may miss some extra CS under the tower, but maybe if u know that u will be a little worse in last hitting but way stronger later, u will change your playstyle accordingly? Also it makes a lot of sense with janna, since she can just give you +AD..


Did you mean APen, or is sypher building some crazy magic damage on-hit build?

On March 16 2012 07:18 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:
Xerath has three problems:
  • Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
  • You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
  • His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.

These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.


Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup.


I wasn't saying that Xerath is sleeper OP, I was simply articulating why he's so unpopular while not being outright horrible. Champions with easy counter-picks still get played at the tournament level when composition allows, but people simply don't like playing Xerath and/or feel other champions do his job better.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 15 2012 22:20 GMT
#3395
Dyrus doing work in this scrim right now. He's getting focused and dying first, but they are expending so much shit to deal with only him they are winning the team fights by a large margin.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#3396
On March 16 2012 07:15 Lancer723 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
That's a pretty big issue as well. Outside of solo q and troll tournament qualifiers, no one has seen Dyrus try really hard to show what he's currently good at.


I thought Dyrus was real strong with CDE at WCG. I could be wrong but I remember him being a monster in some of those games.


If CDE was an actual team for all tournies, then they would dominate. Everyone.

Dyrus top, Regi mid, and Saint in jungle? Yes please. Plus I think CDE showed that Regi has absurdly strong chemistry with Saint. Plus Regi was playing like the best mid in the world at WCG arguably.

I don't remember their bot lane, but I believe Chauster and Xspecial was the bot lane. That would be a scary team to go up against.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
March 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#3397
On March 16 2012 07:20 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Dyrus doing work in this scrim right now. He's getting focused and dying first, but they are expending so much shit to deal with only him they are winning the team fights by a large margin.


It's a 900$ tourney actually, it's 1-1 sypher vs TSM now
Romanes eunt domus
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 15 2012 22:24 GMT
#3398
On March 16 2012 07:23 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:20 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Dyrus doing work in this scrim right now. He's getting focused and dying first, but they are expending so much shit to deal with only him they are winning the team fights by a large margin.


It's a 900$ tourney actually, it's 1-1 sypher vs TSM now

really? what tourney? link?
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
March 15 2012 22:26 GMT
#3399
On March 16 2012 07:19 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:13 OutlaW- wrote:
After seeing the sypher urgot run all magic pen and no +ad, ive been kinda wondering if it's not worth it
Sure, you may miss some extra CS under the tower, but maybe if u know that u will be a little worse in last hitting but way stronger later, u will change your playstyle accordingly? Also it makes a lot of sense with janna, since she can just give you +AD..


Did you mean APen, or is sypher building some crazy magic damage on-hit build?

Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:18 red_ wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:
Xerath has three problems:
  • Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
  • You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
  • His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.

These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.


Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup.


I wasn't saying that Xerath is sleeper OP, I was simply articulating why he's so unpopular while not being outright horrible. Champions with easy counter-picks still get played at the tournament level when composition allows, but people simply don't like playing Xerath and/or feel other champions do his job better.

25 apen is normal for urgot lol.
GANDHISAUCE
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 15 2012 22:29 GMT
#3400
On March 16 2012 07:14 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:12 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
The last action on Dyrus's stream just illustrated perfectly the problem with TSM.

He asks for Lee Sin to got secure his red RIGHT NOW, TOO takes 10s to begin moving. And offers him to take red (YOU HAVE LEE SIN BRO YOU SHOULD CARRY).
Then Shyv comes, and what does regi do ? Ult right in front of her with no reason, where she can just R away. Which she did of course, destroying any possible pressure mid for the next minutes.


Chaox is carryin hard though (8-1 atm).

Oh and TOO #1 Smite.

Yep, this is the TEXTBOOK tsm game. Regi derps in lane but still gets a decent score thanks to repeated ganks, TOO plays like he is the support, and Chaox carries. STANDARD.


I'm totally digging it to see Poppy in competitive play btw.

Dyrus showin that Poppy is just a massive chunk of disruption that will take your carry out.

Kind of screwed if they pick Ashe though
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