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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 15 2012 21:21 GMT
#3361
On March 16 2012 06:19 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:17 Sabin010 wrote:
Xerath isn't played for the same reason anivia doesn't see a lot of play. They're just under the radar.

Anivia sees way more play than Xerath.

The problem with Xerath is that he's godlike if you have your ult in a fight, terrible if you don't. Too binary.
And he's countered by quite a few popular mids (Gragas, Cassio, Ahri, LB, ...).

EDIT :
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:18 Cloud9157 wrote:
I really don't understand why Irelia isn't played more. She is such a great top.

Irelia must be the most played top I think >.>


inb4 riven

No one at my trash ELO or normals will play Irelia except for once in a blue moon.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 15 2012 21:22 GMT
#3362
On March 16 2012 06:18 Cloud9157 wrote:
Shen early game is retarded from experience.

I just treat him how I treat everyone that isn't Nasus when I play Irelia. Just sit back and farm till you get to 8/9 then start fighting back. Even Shen starts to lose to you.

I really don't understand why Irelia isn't played more. She is such a great top.

wut. irelia/gp are the most common top laners. if anything, irelia is overplayed/over picked.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
March 15 2012 21:24 GMT
#3363
On March 16 2012 06:15 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:11 Lylat wrote:
TOO 0/6/2 Regi 1/6/3, I guess TRM really was the problem...


TRM wasn't 'kicked,' nobody said he 'was the problem.' He quit because playing competitively was getting to him, he wasn't enjoying himself, and that was important enough for him to say he's done. They happened to have Dyrus in the house, who had the blessing of his own team to switch it up since they aren't that active themselves, so they probably told TRM it's fine to quit, and it was clearly on amicable terms as he will be staying in the house with them streaming his regular play.

well we don't actually know that this is what happened either. the only time we know for sure is when the dude who left decides to stupidly post everyone online and start a flamewar (elementz, phantomlord, etc). however, anyone who watched hanover knows that regi and oddone are tsms problem right now and during scrims and tourneys trm seems to take all the blame.
GANDHISAUCE
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 15 2012 21:24 GMT
#3364
On March 16 2012 06:21 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:19 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:17 Sabin010 wrote:
Xerath isn't played for the same reason anivia doesn't see a lot of play. They're just under the radar.

Anivia sees way more play than Xerath.

The problem with Xerath is that he's godlike if you have your ult in a fight, terrible if you don't. Too binary.
And he's countered by quite a few popular mids (Gragas, Cassio, Ahri, LB, ...).

EDIT :
On March 16 2012 06:18 Cloud9157 wrote:
I really don't understand why Irelia isn't played more. She is such a great top.

Irelia must be the most played top I think >.>


inb4 riven

No one at my trash ELO or normals will play Irelia except for once in a blue moon.

Funny because in my games I never ever see a Riven except when I play her, but there's an Irelia in every single match. To be precise, on my last 15 matches, 11 included an Irelia.
The legend of Darien lives on
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 15 2012 21:26 GMT
#3365
On March 16 2012 06:02 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 05:58 Shikyo wrote:
Why is Reginald playing Gragas so much? I mean, it's in my opinion a stretch to say his gragas is actually really good, I'd call it mediocre at best. In addition he just seems to have the weirdest ults ever and then there's the issue that Gragas just isn't a good mid at all.

His Gragas is okay, his overall play these days isn't. And how the fuck is Gragas not a good mid champion?

Would you pick Gragas over Cassiopeia Morgana Ahri Anivia Galio Karthus Ryze Sion Veigar Xerath Ziggs or Zilean?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 21:28:03
March 15 2012 21:27 GMT
#3366
On March 16 2012 06:24 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:15 red_ wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:11 Lylat wrote:
TOO 0/6/2 Regi 1/6/3, I guess TRM really was the problem...


TRM wasn't 'kicked,' nobody said he 'was the problem.' He quit because playing competitively was getting to him, he wasn't enjoying himself, and that was important enough for him to say he's done. They happened to have Dyrus in the house, who had the blessing of his own team to switch it up since they aren't that active themselves, so they probably told TRM it's fine to quit, and it was clearly on amicable terms as he will be staying in the house with them streaming his regular play.

well we don't actually know that this is what happened either. the only time we know for sure is when the dude who left decides to stupidly post everyone online and start a flamewar (elementz, phantomlord, etc). however, anyone who watched hanover knows that regi and oddone are tsms problem right now and during scrims and tourneys trm seems to take all the blame.

Actually trm posted it himself, so unless they forced him to make up a bs story, we know that trm left on his own.
On March 16 2012 06:26 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:02 Shiv. wrote:
On March 16 2012 05:58 Shikyo wrote:
Why is Reginald playing Gragas so much? I mean, it's in my opinion a stretch to say his gragas is actually really good, I'd call it mediocre at best. In addition he just seems to have the weirdest ults ever and then there's the issue that Gragas just isn't a good mid at all.

His Gragas is okay, his overall play these days isn't. And how the fuck is Gragas not a good mid champion?

Would you pick Gragas over Cassiopeia Morgana Ahri Anivia Galio Karthus Ryze Sion Veigar Xerath Ziggs or Zilean?

Really, you talking about arranged 5s and you bring up sion?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#3367
On March 16 2012 06:24 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:21 Cloud9157 wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:19 mr_tolkien wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:17 Sabin010 wrote:
Xerath isn't played for the same reason anivia doesn't see a lot of play. They're just under the radar.

Anivia sees way more play than Xerath.

The problem with Xerath is that he's godlike if you have your ult in a fight, terrible if you don't. Too binary.
And he's countered by quite a few popular mids (Gragas, Cassio, Ahri, LB, ...).

EDIT :
On March 16 2012 06:18 Cloud9157 wrote:
I really don't understand why Irelia isn't played more. She is such a great top.

Irelia must be the most played top I think >.>


inb4 riven

No one at my trash ELO or normals will play Irelia except for once in a blue moon.

Funny because in my games I never ever see a Riven except when I play her, but there's an Irelia in every single match. To be precise, on my last 15 matches, 11 included an Irelia.


Just the opposite for me, lol.

Then again, I'm stuck in the shitty ELO where everyone calls mid+top as FPs and then feed/get raped in lane. And Riven is total pubstomp from the games I've played.

Just saying from my ELO experience. After watching Hannover, its been confirmde that EU loves Irelia. Probably because they're smart.

"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 21:40:03
March 15 2012 21:30 GMT
#3368
On March 16 2012 06:24 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:15 red_ wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:11 Lylat wrote:
TOO 0/6/2 Regi 1/6/3, I guess TRM really was the problem...


TRM wasn't 'kicked,' nobody said he 'was the problem.' He quit because playing competitively was getting to him, he wasn't enjoying himself, and that was important enough for him to say he's done. They happened to have Dyrus in the house, who had the blessing of his own team to switch it up since they aren't that active themselves, so they probably told TRM it's fine to quit, and it was clearly on amicable terms as he will be staying in the house with them streaming his regular play.

well we don't actually know that this is what happened either. the only time we know for sure is when the dude who left decides to stupidly post everyone online and start a flamewar (elementz, phantomlord, etc). however, anyone who watched hanover knows that regi and oddone are tsms problem right now and during scrims and tourneys trm seems to take all the blame.

It's been said in various sources by TSM players. TRM still gets to live in the house and they're still on apparently friendly terms. If you want to think there is secret hatred then go ahead, but the even rage at each other has been addressed in Regi's Vlog.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 15 2012 21:31 GMT
#3369
On March 16 2012 06:27 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:24 De4ngus wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:15 red_ wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:11 Lylat wrote:
TOO 0/6/2 Regi 1/6/3, I guess TRM really was the problem...


TRM wasn't 'kicked,' nobody said he 'was the problem.' He quit because playing competitively was getting to him, he wasn't enjoying himself, and that was important enough for him to say he's done. They happened to have Dyrus in the house, who had the blessing of his own team to switch it up since they aren't that active themselves, so they probably told TRM it's fine to quit, and it was clearly on amicable terms as he will be staying in the house with them streaming his regular play.

well we don't actually know that this is what happened either. the only time we know for sure is when the dude who left decides to stupidly post everyone online and start a flamewar (elementz, phantomlord, etc). however, anyone who watched hanover knows that regi and oddone are tsms problem right now and during scrims and tourneys trm seems to take all the blame.

Actually trm posted it himself, so unless they forced him to make up a bs story, we know that trm left on his own.
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:26 Shikyo wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:02 Shiv. wrote:
On March 16 2012 05:58 Shikyo wrote:
Why is Reginald playing Gragas so much? I mean, it's in my opinion a stretch to say his gragas is actually really good, I'd call it mediocre at best. In addition he just seems to have the weirdest ults ever and then there's the issue that Gragas just isn't a good mid at all.

His Gragas is okay, his overall play these days isn't. And how the fuck is Gragas not a good mid champion?

Would you pick Gragas over Cassiopeia Morgana Ahri Anivia Galio Karthus Ryze Sion Veigar Xerath Ziggs or Zilean?

Really, you talking about arranged 5s and you bring up sion?

Yes? I think he's better than Gragas as a mid, what's the problem?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
March 15 2012 21:33 GMT
#3370
On March 16 2012 06:26 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:02 Shiv. wrote:
On March 16 2012 05:58 Shikyo wrote:
Why is Reginald playing Gragas so much? I mean, it's in my opinion a stretch to say his gragas is actually really good, I'd call it mediocre at best. In addition he just seems to have the weirdest ults ever and then there's the issue that Gragas just isn't a good mid at all.

His Gragas is okay, his overall play these days isn't. And how the fuck is Gragas not a good mid champion?

Would you pick Gragas over Cassiopeia Morgana Ahri Anivia Galio Karthus Ryze Sion Veigar Xerath Ziggs or Zilean?


IMO the counter initiation from Gragas ult is the best form of cc in the game. Its like being able to flash and janna ult, but you don't die, and you don't use flash.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 15 2012 21:34 GMT
#3371
On March 16 2012 06:33 Sabin010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:26 Shikyo wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:02 Shiv. wrote:
On March 16 2012 05:58 Shikyo wrote:
Why is Reginald playing Gragas so much? I mean, it's in my opinion a stretch to say his gragas is actually really good, I'd call it mediocre at best. In addition he just seems to have the weirdest ults ever and then there's the issue that Gragas just isn't a good mid at all.

His Gragas is okay, his overall play these days isn't. And how the fuck is Gragas not a good mid champion?

Would you pick Gragas over Cassiopeia Morgana Ahri Anivia Galio Karthus Ryze Sion Veigar Xerath Ziggs or Zilean?


IMO the counter initiation from Gragas ult is the best form of cc in the game. Its like being able to flash and janna ult, but you don't die, and you don't use flash.

Sure but imo he functions far better as a secondary AP not the primary one(And then I could say that regi can't ulti so that aspect of Gragas is wasted)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 15 2012 21:35 GMT
#3372
On March 16 2012 06:31 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:27 JackDino wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:24 De4ngus wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:15 red_ wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:11 Lylat wrote:
TOO 0/6/2 Regi 1/6/3, I guess TRM really was the problem...


TRM wasn't 'kicked,' nobody said he 'was the problem.' He quit because playing competitively was getting to him, he wasn't enjoying himself, and that was important enough for him to say he's done. They happened to have Dyrus in the house, who had the blessing of his own team to switch it up since they aren't that active themselves, so they probably told TRM it's fine to quit, and it was clearly on amicable terms as he will be staying in the house with them streaming his regular play.

well we don't actually know that this is what happened either. the only time we know for sure is when the dude who left decides to stupidly post everyone online and start a flamewar (elementz, phantomlord, etc). however, anyone who watched hanover knows that regi and oddone are tsms problem right now and during scrims and tourneys trm seems to take all the blame.

Actually trm posted it himself, so unless they forced him to make up a bs story, we know that trm left on his own.
On March 16 2012 06:26 Shikyo wrote:
On March 16 2012 06:02 Shiv. wrote:
On March 16 2012 05:58 Shikyo wrote:
Why is Reginald playing Gragas so much? I mean, it's in my opinion a stretch to say his gragas is actually really good, I'd call it mediocre at best. In addition he just seems to have the weirdest ults ever and then there's the issue that Gragas just isn't a good mid at all.

His Gragas is okay, his overall play these days isn't. And how the fuck is Gragas not a good mid champion?

Would you pick Gragas over Cassiopeia Morgana Ahri Anivia Galio Karthus Ryze Sion Veigar Xerath Ziggs or Zilean?

Really, you talking about arranged 5s and you bring up sion?

Yes? I think he's better than Gragas as a mid, what's the problem?

Sion is close to worthless in arranged 5s mid-lategame, you just focus him so his shield pops and most of his damage is gone. Rather have gragas. Gragas does tons of damage and his ult can be amazing, much better in teamfights. And as you always say yourself, there's more to the game than the laning phase.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
March 15 2012 21:35 GMT
#3373
Dyrus playing Poppy against Sypher!

Important: which do TL'ers prefer: the full "Toppy Poppy", just "Toppy", or "Poppytop" (pronounced as poppycock).
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 15 2012 21:37 GMT
#3374
On March 16 2012 06:35 Treadmill wrote:
Dyrus playing Poppy against Sypher!

Important: which do TL'ers prefer: the full "Toppy Poppy", just "Toppy", or "Poppytop" (pronounced as poppycock).


The fact this is even a question...

Toppy yo.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
March 15 2012 21:37 GMT
#3375
What champs are Dyrus proficient at? Meaning his most comfortable picks. Or is he relatively average at all champs and not excellent at any?
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 15 2012 21:37 GMT
#3376
Dyrus poppy incoming

Can't wait to see how it fairs in tournament play.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#3377
On March 16 2012 06:37 beefhamburger wrote:
What champs are Dyrus proficient at? Meaning his most comfortable picks. Or is he relatively average at all champs and not excellent at any?


Historically, Singed and Jax. That's his claim to fame.

As of recently... I'm not quite sure.
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
March 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#3378
On March 16 2012 06:37 beefhamburger wrote:
What champs are Dyrus proficient at? Meaning his most comfortable picks. Or is he relatively average at all champs and not excellent at any?

He's best at Singed and Jax (maybe best in the world at those two). He's also been playing a lot of Vlad lately. But he's got a deeper champ pool than most top laners.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#3379
On March 16 2012 06:37 beefhamburger wrote:
What champs are Dyrus proficient at? Meaning his most comfortable picks. Or is he relatively average at all champs and not excellent at any?


I've noticed that his GP is really good. His Singed is no joke either.

Plus he seems to have a solid Udyr if I recall from WCG.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 15 2012 21:38 GMT
#3380
On March 16 2012 06:37 beefhamburger wrote:
What champs are Dyrus proficient at? Meaning his most comfortable picks. Or is he relatively average at all champs and not excellent at any?


He is really good with singed/jax/vlad/rumble

and he is the one that started the whole MF bot lane thing

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