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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#3401
Fuck, Dyrus had 27k viewers when I turned in. People are (understandably) REALLY interested in seeing him play with TSM. He did a decent job top though, taken all the Shyvana ganks into account.
currently rooting for myself.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#3402
On March 16 2012 07:26 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:19 Seuss wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:13 OutlaW- wrote:
After seeing the sypher urgot run all magic pen and no +ad, ive been kinda wondering if it's not worth it
Sure, you may miss some extra CS under the tower, but maybe if u know that u will be a little worse in last hitting but way stronger later, u will change your playstyle accordingly? Also it makes a lot of sense with janna, since she can just give you +AD..


Did you mean APen, or is sypher building some crazy magic damage on-hit build?

On March 16 2012 07:18 red_ wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:
Xerath has three problems:
  • Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
  • You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
  • His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.

These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.


Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup.


I wasn't saying that Xerath is sleeper OP, I was simply articulating why he's so unpopular while not being outright horrible. Champions with easy counter-picks still get played at the tournament level when composition allows, but people simply don't like playing Xerath and/or feel other champions do his job better.

25 apen is normal for urgot lol.


But he said sypher was using MPen, hence my confusion.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 15 2012 22:37 GMT
#3403
On March 16 2012 07:15 Lancer723 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
That's a pretty big issue as well. Outside of solo q and troll tournament qualifiers, no one has seen Dyrus try really hard to show what he's currently good at.


I thought Dyrus was real strong with CDE at WCG. I could be wrong but I remember him being a monster in some of those games.


He played very well in the finals. But Dyrus himself even said that it was mostly saint and Reginald that carried WCG. He even said that he thought saint should be given MVP but that most of CDE's matches didn't get streamed at WCG, only the finals which is when he played really well.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
March 15 2012 22:42 GMT
#3404
On March 16 2012 07:24 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:23 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:20 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Dyrus doing work in this scrim right now. He's getting focused and dying first, but they are expending so much shit to deal with only him they are winning the team fights by a large margin.


It's a 900$ tourney actually, it's 1-1 sypher vs TSM now

really? what tourney? link?


http://www.millenium.org/lol/accueil/actualites/lol-cdiscount-cup-2-by-nvidia-tournoi-league-of-legends-cdiscount-cup-2-by-nvidia-62799?page=4

It's a french tourney
Romanes eunt domus
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
March 15 2012 22:42 GMT
#3405
Wait, what is that pick ?
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
March 15 2012 22:44 GMT
#3406
On March 16 2012 07:34 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:26 De4ngus wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:19 Seuss wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:13 OutlaW- wrote:
After seeing the sypher urgot run all magic pen and no +ad, ive been kinda wondering if it's not worth it
Sure, you may miss some extra CS under the tower, but maybe if u know that u will be a little worse in last hitting but way stronger later, u will change your playstyle accordingly? Also it makes a lot of sense with janna, since she can just give you +AD..


Did you mean APen, or is sypher building some crazy magic damage on-hit build?

On March 16 2012 07:18 red_ wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:
Xerath has three problems:
  • Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
  • You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
  • His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.

These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.


Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup.


I wasn't saying that Xerath is sleeper OP, I was simply articulating why he's so unpopular while not being outright horrible. Champions with easy counter-picks still get played at the tournament level when composition allows, but people simply don't like playing Xerath and/or feel other champions do his job better.

25 apen is normal for urgot lol.


But he said sypher was using MPen, hence my confusion.

haha my bad yes i meant apen
my point was that you trade some early last hit power (which if not under the turret is somewhat lazy) for being better later on - an idea that i liked, especially with janna who can provide you with that +ad
i tried running chaox's all AD but i felt like i was not doing enough damage..
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 15 2012 22:45 GMT
#3407
On March 16 2012 07:42 RouaF wrote:
Wait, what is that pick ?


TSM members don't have all champions yet. So they pick some underplayed champ and tell Sypher through pm what it really is. Then they remake with the right champs on the right people.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 15 2012 23:00 GMT
#3408
Uploading dis to youtube

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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
March 15 2012 23:00 GMT
#3409
Wait, was that a proper gank we saw there?
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 15 2012 23:05 GMT
#3410
Watch these games made me realize how bad is oddone -.-
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
March 15 2012 23:06 GMT
#3411
You know the nice thing about Dyrus' stream during these games is that you can't really hear the other people on voice chat so you're not inundated with "dude bro" all the time.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 15 2012 23:09 GMT
#3412
On March 16 2012 07:44 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:34 Seuss wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:26 De4ngus wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:19 Seuss wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:13 OutlaW- wrote:
After seeing the sypher urgot run all magic pen and no +ad, ive been kinda wondering if it's not worth it
Sure, you may miss some extra CS under the tower, but maybe if u know that u will be a little worse in last hitting but way stronger later, u will change your playstyle accordingly? Also it makes a lot of sense with janna, since she can just give you +AD..


Did you mean APen, or is sypher building some crazy magic damage on-hit build?

On March 16 2012 07:18 red_ wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:
Xerath has three problems:
  • Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
  • You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
  • His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.

These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.


Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup.


I wasn't saying that Xerath is sleeper OP, I was simply articulating why he's so unpopular while not being outright horrible. Champions with easy counter-picks still get played at the tournament level when composition allows, but people simply don't like playing Xerath and/or feel other champions do his job better.

25 apen is normal for urgot lol.


But he said sypher was using MPen, hence my confusion.

haha my bad yes i meant apen
my point was that you trade some early last hit power (which if not under the turret is somewhat lazy) for being better later on - an idea that i liked, especially with janna who can provide you with that +ad
i tried running chaox's all AD but i felt like i was not doing enough damage..


this is discussion that has happened in GD about 100 times but still

through some experimentation (aka playing a low lvl smurf) ive found 15 bonus ad enough to be able to last hit effectively even while under tower (the champ i used was ezreal due to free week). so if you can get that quickly, through either masteries or whatever, i would advise you to use armor pen after that.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 23:11:16
March 15 2012 23:10 GMT
#3413
On March 16 2012 08:06 arnath wrote:
You know the nice thing about Dyrus' stream during these games is that you can't really hear the other people on voice chat so you're not inundated with "dude bro" all the time.

hearing dyrus' voice made me feel so cold lol...

i dont think regi can rage to dyrus after hearing dat voice.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
March 15 2012 23:19 GMT
#3414
Derp, I'm Regi, going to 1v3 with low health. Oh now I'm chasing. Hey look, Tristana respawned and I'm dead!
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 15 2012 23:22 GMT
#3415
does regi even play kennen?
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
March 15 2012 23:23 GMT
#3416
On March 16 2012 08:19 Gahlo wrote:
Derp, I'm Regi, going to 1v3 with low health. Oh now I'm chasing. Hey look, Tristana respawned and I'm dead!


Xspecial and Regi throwing so far this game. Xspecial caught all day.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 15 2012 23:24 GMT
#3417
Looks like TSM lost.. 6/0/12 Morgana really strong
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 15 2012 23:27 GMT
#3418
I dare them to blame Dyrus for this loss like they would do with Rainman.

sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 15 2012 23:29 GMT
#3419
On March 16 2012 07:18 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:03 Seuss wrote:
Xerath has three problems:
  • Many players find him boring (combination of playstyle and aesthetics).
  • You can't afford to miss a single skill shot in a team fight, especially with his ult.
  • His niche is impinged upon by Ziggs and AP Kog'maw.

These problems do not make him bad, but they make him unpopular.


Look I know TL loves Xerath, but that doesn't change the fact that since his release he has had some absolutely awful matchups vs some of the more common AP mids, and that will keep him out of (common) tourney play because you can't risk having your mid be a complete nonfactor due to matchup.


Who owns xerath? I can think of LB, Ahri, and kassadin... thats not really any worse than many other mids, LB and Kass are the classic hardcounter mids..
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 15 2012 23:31 GMT
#3420
i don't think kassadin beats xerath tbh
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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