just gonna mention that ww buff, that is seriously huge. I think that's the biggest buff this patch. Faster jungle + base attackspeed boost (which means hunter's call also gives more attackspeed) = godlike. Also, pretty big Kennen nerf, buff to mejai's nunu huehue, and I think Shen buffs are gonna be huge because of the energy return on Ki Strike. Feint might actually be worth leveling now that shadow dash energy cost doesn't go down. Also wtf why does shadow dash do damage?
p.s. for those that lived through the days of shen imba, it wasn't because sunfires or randuins, it was because feint didn't absorb damage - it reduced it by a flat amount. At level 5, it was something like -150 damage. For 1.5 seconds, on a 5 second cooldown. That was, I think, the least balanced skill in LoL ever.
How are so many people calling Shen imba so easily?
His laning is going to be pretty strong sure, and it already was so. Even so, he's going to have a ton of energy problems later on, and basically needs to hit at least 2 targets with his taunt now. His W is still going to be used almost never, and then he's left with a Q and his passive. The taunt AoE is still tiny and that's his only CC and that lasts only 1.5 seconds on a long cooldown.
His Q is going to be strong sure, and his early laning might become problematic, but he's still going to be poop in the lategame.
Comparing his E to galio ulti is pretty far-fetched though as Galio's has far more range, deals far more damage and lasts far longer, not to mention that the rest of Galio's skillset is far better.
Even though his laning is probably going to become quite strong I still don't think that should be worth a permaban or hotfix, as he's still going to be mediocre past laning. E damage's kind of puzzling though, it might make his laning too strong. Should have next to no effect in the midgame, though.
On February 14 2012 15:50 infinitestory wrote: Oh god sona nerf bat holy
Power Chord does way way less damage now, so it should be significantly better to use W power chord in early bot lane fights. Sona's harass is also a good amount weaker, although much of it does come from her Q base damage. Though I'd now say that if you need a support with CC, Alistar and Leona are better choices.
The Sona nerfs really aren't that big - the biggest single hit is probably Sona's level 1 W active going from 14 Armor/MR to 6 at low levels, with a difference of between 30-40 for her early level burst being the other large difference. She's still good at everything she was good at before, she's just had a bit of her power shifted from levels 1-5 (where she was too strong) to 11+ (where she was / will continue to be strong).
her power cord actual does more damage starting at level 4.... this entire patch is basically just hitting her early levels like they said in the preview
On February 14 2012 17:51 wussleeQ wrote: her power cord actual does more damage starting at level 4.... this entire patch is basically just hitting her early levels like they said in the preview
wut?
Sona's lvl 4 power chord post patch does 10x4 = 40 damage. Pre-patch it does 14+(9x4) = 50 damage. Sona's power chord doesn't catch up until lvl 14, after which it surpasses her pre-patch power chord.
Fuck this crap. Shen is about the most annoying thing ever. Bye toplane until he's nerfed back, it's worse than both kennen and vlad since it's targeted and super low cooldown on a champion that gives no fucks about counterattacks.
Nerf bat seems to be going around pretty hard this patch, those are some pretty heavy hits to Ahri/Cass imo, also, I feel that the Soraka nerfs are more than Sona's and yet she was the stronger support. Although I do like the change so that shes no longer an infinite sustain.... the increased mana costs (Even on her Q?) without the ability to restore mana to herself will effect her late game pretty badly imo.
Not really sure I agree with the further change to Ahri's ult, and the cass change seems a little bit high on the numbers. Most shocking was the rammus change - sure, hes strong, but thats not even the area that he needs hitting on... and its a pretty huge hit. 30 arm/mr at max rank? Pretty intense.
I agree with the sentiment that the Shen buffs seem a little overkill, I had no problems with where he was at anyway, now hes stronk.
On February 14 2012 18:46 Wetty wrote: Nerf bat seems to be going around pretty hard this patch, those are some pretty heavy hits to Ahri/Cass imo, also, I feel that the Soraka nerfs are more than Sona's and yet she was the stronger support. Although I do like the change so that shes no longer an infinite sustain.... the increased mana costs (Even on her Q?) without the ability to restore mana to herself will effect her late game pretty badly imo.
Not really sure I agree with the further change to Ahri's ult, and the cass change seems a little bit high on the numbers. Most shocking was the rammus change - sure, hes strong, but thats not even the area that he needs hitting on... and its a pretty huge hit. 30 arm/mr at max rank? Pretty intense.
I agree with the sentiment that the Shen buffs seem a little overkill, I had no problems with where he was at anyway, now hes stronk.
Soraka's mana costs were reduced, not increased. Ironically, the increase in mana to allies may have just negated the mana cost nerfs to graves couple patches ago in the graves soraka lane.
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