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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 14 2012 13:44 TwoToneTerran wrote: Might as well just cal this the Shen patchnotes. Shen gonna be op. Rush dem Wits End and Warmogs. Spark looks really well-suited to Shen. Wit's will probably still be better because it's more cost-effective but Spark gives Shen what he needs (attack speed, HP, AoE pushing power). | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On February 14 2012 13:58 Brees wrote: no one past 1500 elo is going to get to play shen anyway so not like it actually needs a hotfix just a new permban Because >1500 elo ranked players are representative of the LoL population, right. It will be hotfixed if only because it's not fun in blind pick normals, just like release Leblanc. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
vorpal costs more energy late-game taunt costs more energy late-game (though he does get more back, i will cede) taunt duration decreased by 0.5 seconds at rank 5 channel time and shield duration decreased at all ranks for his ult so yeah, a lot of areas he got a lot stronger on (damage, energy retention), but he lost some of his utility i think you guys are blowing his buffs out of proportion better early-game? yes, for sure. still have the problem of doing jack-all past mid-game? pretty much :\ edit: yeah, i'm kinda playing devil's advocate here - i'm moderately excited for my original favorite champ to be getting buffed. but COME ON GUYS he's not like skarner or rammus or morgana level strong imo | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On February 14 2012 13:57 ManyCookies wrote: Does the +2% heal scale down with the rest of the Vorpal Blade heal, or is it a constant heal for each hit? If not, carries get 150 health per hit. Wait a minute, Shen isn't going to be as overpowered as you all think. His taunt is half a second shorter at max rank and costs 20 more energy. And his Vorpal Blade costs 10 more energy at max rank. And he lost .15 AP scaling on his Q and W. And his Ult takes longer to teleport. Checks and balances guys. the way it works now is it heals X amount over like 2 or 3 seconds starting from when you trigger it. If you hit a target marked by vorpal blade while you're already under the heal effect it just refreshes it. | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 14 2012 14:07 gtrsrs wrote: i'm gonna go ahead and go against the grain here, and say shen isn't going to be OP vorpal costs more energy late-game taunt costs more energy late-game (though he does get more back, i will cede) taunt duration decreased by 0.5 seconds at rank 5 channel time and shield duration decreased at all ranks for his ult so yeah, a lot of areas he got a lot stronger on (damage, energy retention), but he lost some of his utility i think you guys are blowing his buffs out of proportion better early-game? yes, for sure. still have the problem of doing jack-all past mid-game? pretty much :\ edit: yeah, i'm kinda playing devil's advocate here - i'm moderately excited for my original favorite champ to be getting buffed. but COME ON GUYS he's not like skarner or rammus or morgana level strong imo Your shen love blinders are showing. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On February 14 2012 14:07 gtrsrs wrote: i'm gonna go ahead and go against the grain here, and say shen isn't going to be OP vorpal costs more energy late-game taunt costs more energy late-game (though he does get more back, i will cede) taunt duration decreased by 0.5 seconds at rank 5 channel time and shield duration decreased at all ranks for his ult so yeah, a lot of areas he got a lot stronger on (damage, energy retention), but he lost some of his utility i think you guys are blowing his buffs out of proportion better early-game? yes, for sure. still have the problem of doing jack-all past mid-game? pretty much :\ Ki strike restores 30 energy late-game, the same amount vorpal/dash went up for cost. At least in the first parts of a team fight shen will have nearly as much if not more energy than before. As for the other stuff the best part about ulti was it actually providing a shield and being a global teleport, it's not a huge nerf (the shield itself was buffed anyways). | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On February 14 2012 14:07 randomKo_Orean wrote: WHERES THE FRIGGING MISS FORTUNE BUFFS ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGH This is so frustrating D: Miss Fortune is still pretty good and lots of people still play her? | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On February 14 2012 14:09 zer0das wrote: I also like how in the patch preview video Phreak says "Sona has been the premier support for a while..." and then they hit Soraka over the head with a baseball bat, breaking her horn into pieces, while Sona gets a tap on the wrist. :/ the soraka changes are positive - she's less of a portable fountain and more of a clutch burst healer. she still gives her lane partner infinite harass capabilities, but she is no longer the attrition goddess of the game (which is positive for gameplay in general) *inb4 loci tries some garbage like AP shen again this patch :teehee  | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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warscythes
365 Posts
On February 14 2012 14:07 gtrsrs wrote: i'm gonna go ahead and go against the grain here, and say shen isn't going to be OP vorpal costs more energy late-game taunt costs more energy late-game (though he does get more back, i will cede) taunt duration decreased by 0.5 seconds at rank 5 channel time and shield duration decreased at all ranks for his ult so yeah, a lot of areas he got a lot stronger on (damage, energy retention), but he lost some of his utility i think you guys are blowing his buffs out of proportion better early-game? yes, for sure. still have the problem of doing jack-all past mid-game? pretty much :\ edit: yeah, i'm kinda playing devil's advocate here - i'm moderately excited for my original favorite champ to be getting buffed. but COME ON GUYS he's not like skarner or rammus or morgana level strong imo The only two noticeable nerfs here are the channel time and taunt duration nerf, energy problem is masked by taunt buff and ki strike buff especially now you get to proc more ki strike with W on. Shield duration wasn't really ever that a big deal, 5 seconds is a pretty long time. I am sure his other buffs make up for it especially now it is extremely difficult to stop him from split pushing after cabbaging all over his lane AND he now pushes faster thanks to the damage buffs. I mean we shall see, but if he is not overpowered then I will eat my lab coat. | ||
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Prospero
United States183 Posts
On February 14 2012 14:09 zer0das wrote: I also like how in the patch preview video Phreak says "Sona has been the premier support for a while..." and then they hit Soraka over the head with a baseball bat, breaking her horn into pieces, while Sona gets a tap on the wrist. :/ I'd say the biggest thing that makes Sona pretty OP is her AoE ult. But chaging this would probably require a complete re-working. Soraka was a problem with her "sit back and afk farm for 20 minutes" influence. But it was pretty easy to fix by scaling back some of her "infinite" sustain. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
Power Chord damage adjusted to 10 per level from 14 + 9 per level Hymn of Valor passive attack damage and ability power aura reduced at earlier ranks to 4/8/12/16/20 from 8/11/14/17/20 Aria of Perseverance passive armor and magic resist aura reduced at earlier ranks to 3/6/9/12/15 from 7/9/11/13/15 Song of Celerity passive movement speed aura reduced at earlier ranks to 4/8/12/16/20 from 8/11/14/17/20 Sona @ level 1 with level 1 Q 50(+4) AA + 20 Power Chord + 50(+2.8) Hymn of Valor = 126.8 damage Subsequent AA harass = 54 Current Sona @ level 1 with level 1 Q 50(+8) AA + 46 Power Chord + 50(+5.6) Hymn of Valor = 159.6 damage Subsequent AA harass = 58 A noticeable difference in the hardest lane to balance in the game | ||
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ManyCookies
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