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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 14 2012 05:29 GMT
#41
IS he ww change a nerf on his healing? thru is passive
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 06:00:00
February 14 2012 05:31 GMT
#42
If they decreased the mana cost of Soraka's heal by half (at least during the early levels) while also removing the mana restoration to self, it would be a good change, but as it is she's going to run out of mana after like 3 casts. Meanwhile Sona gets slight nerfs to her early game, but basically remains untouched otherwise. Soraka is still going to rock the house in long attrition wars, but her early game is going to be horrendous, so that is probably going to be irrelevant.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
February 14 2012 05:31 GMT
#43
Yes, but WW really doesn't need that much healing in the new jungle. It's a completely beneficial trade for WW.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
February 14 2012 05:36 GMT
#44
But its a nerf to my imba lanewick
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
February 14 2012 05:42 GMT
#45
if you knew how ridiculous his level 1 vorpal blade damage/spam is beforehand then you know why hes gonna be really annoying. they buffed the damage on it. Hes going to be immovable and annoying as fuck top lane. your gonna have to send vlad or kennen or some one else with infinite resources that isnt melee.
Brees on in
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 14 2012 05:44 GMT
#46
HOOOOOOOOLY NERF BAT LOL
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 05:48:22
February 14 2012 05:47 GMT
#47
On February 14 2012 14:07 gtrsrs wrote:
i'm gonna go ahead and go against the grain here, and say shen isn't going to be OP

vorpal costs more energy late-game
taunt costs more energy late-game (though he does get more back, i will cede)
taunt duration decreased by 0.5 seconds at rank 5
channel time and shield duration decreased at all ranks for his ult


so yeah, a lot of areas he got a lot stronger on (damage, energy retention), but he lost some of his utility
i think you guys are blowing his buffs out of proportion

better early-game? yes, for sure. still have the problem of doing jack-all past mid-game? pretty much :\


edit: yeah, i'm kinda playing devil's advocate here - i'm moderately excited for my original favorite champ to be getting buffed. but COME ON GUYS he's not like skarner or rammus or morgana level strong imo

I like how you completely neglected to mention the HUGE buff to his ki strike lol

also, WW's passive is now a crappier version of MF's W O_O
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
February 14 2012 05:48 GMT
#48
http://dmmklpy.tumblr.com/post/17397894030/koropho-new-valentine-vayne-skin-yes-please

A little overdone in my opinion, something more subtle would fit Vayne better.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 14 2012 05:49 GMT
#49
TF just used Destiny -> Gate
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
February 14 2012 05:49 GMT
#50
On February 14 2012 14:27 R04R wrote:
A noticeable difference in the hardest lane to balance in the game


Fortunately, Sona is brought because she has a very good mid-lategame, which was affected only slightly. I expect her to still be the top pick, followed by Janna, Alistar, Nunu and Leona in some order, with Taric getting picked until people realize he's still dogshit and then going to cry in a corner with Soraka.
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
February 14 2012 05:51 GMT
#51
Question about the shen buffs - the patch notes say
Cooldown is now reduced by 1.5 seconds whenever Shen attacks instead of 2 seconds when being attacked

Note it doesn't mention that the cooldown was only reduced by autoattacks by champions, rather than in general. So for the changes does this mean that the cooldown is reduced whenever shen attacks anything or just when he attacks other champions? This would make a significant difference to jungle shen, if not to laning. And I can see it either way - though I'm leaning towards interpretting it as all his attacks lower its cooldown, it isn't clear.
warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 05:53:13
February 14 2012 05:52 GMT
#52
On February 14 2012 14:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 14:07 gtrsrs wrote:
i'm gonna go ahead and go against the grain here, and say shen isn't going to be OP

vorpal costs more energy late-game
taunt costs more energy late-game (though he does get more back, i will cede)
taunt duration decreased by 0.5 seconds at rank 5
channel time and shield duration decreased at all ranks for his ult


so yeah, a lot of areas he got a lot stronger on (damage, energy retention), but he lost some of his utility
i think you guys are blowing his buffs out of proportion

better early-game? yes, for sure. still have the problem of doing jack-all past mid-game? pretty much :\


edit: yeah, i'm kinda playing devil's advocate here - i'm moderately excited for my original favorite champ to be getting buffed. but COME ON GUYS he's not like skarner or rammus or morgana level strong imo

I like how you completely neglected to mention the HUGE buff to his ki strike lol

also, WW's passive is now a crappier version of MF's W O_O


WW still life steals, he is buffed because the sustain nerf is tiny and he still has more than enough to faceroll the jungle.

Note it doesn't mention that the cooldown was only reduced by autoattacks by champions, rather than in general. So for the changes does this mean that the cooldown is reduced whenever shen attacks anything or just when he attacks other champions? This would make a significant difference to jungle shen, if not to laning. And I can see it either way - though I'm leaning towards interpretting it as all his attacks lower its cooldown, it isn't clear.


I am 90% sure is on hit to everybody, not just champions.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
February 14 2012 05:52 GMT
#53
Tbh though riot will probably nerf back shen next patch. That's how they always do it.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 14 2012 05:53 GMT
#54
On February 14 2012 14:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 14:07 gtrsrs wrote:
i'm gonna go ahead and go against the grain here, and say shen isn't going to be OP

vorpal costs more energy late-game
taunt costs more energy late-game (though he does get more back, i will cede)
taunt duration decreased by 0.5 seconds at rank 5
channel time and shield duration decreased at all ranks for his ult


so yeah, a lot of areas he got a lot stronger on (damage, energy retention), but he lost some of his utility
i think you guys are blowing his buffs out of proportion

better early-game? yes, for sure. still have the problem of doing jack-all past mid-game? pretty much :\


edit: yeah, i'm kinda playing devil's advocate here - i'm moderately excited for my original favorite champ to be getting buffed. but COME ON GUYS he's not like skarner or rammus or morgana level strong imo

I like how you completely neglected to mention the HUGE buff to his ki strike lol

also, WW's passive is now a crappier version of MF's W O_O


not neglecting any of his buffs, just wanted to point out the plethora of nerfs he's receiving too, telling y'all to cool off thine heads
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 14 2012 05:55 GMT
#55
Amidst all the Shen buffs, no one is talking about Nautilus. I think he's going to be really damn good, as both of Xypherous's previous champions were. That's a lot of CC and he sounds like he'll be a good straight up tank, though figuring out where to play him will be the real trick.
It's your boy Guzma!
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 06:02:48
February 14 2012 05:57 GMT
#56

Note it doesn't mention that the cooldown was only reduced by autoattacks by champions, rather than in general. So for the changes does this mean that the cooldown is reduced whenever shen attacks anything or just when he attacks other champions? This would make a significant difference to jungle shen, if not to laning. And I can see it either way - though I'm leaning towards interpretting it as all his attacks lower its cooldown, it isn't clear.


It did mention "Champion" in the previous wording, so I would assume it's against anything. Normally I would question that, but with the extent of his other buffs I really would be surprised if it was only against champions.

Oh, and don't forget that the CD reduction on Ki Blade is 3 seconds with Fient up. And Ki Strike's damage is higher. And his Taunt lasts half a second longer at early ranks and now does a small but appreciable amount of damage. And he heals more with Vorpal Blade.

But again, he's going to destroy Top Lane so hard that his jungle is going to go unnoticed.
warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
February 14 2012 05:57 GMT
#57
On February 14 2012 14:55 Requizen wrote:
Amidst all the Shen buffs, no one is talking about Nautilus. I think he's going to be really damn good, as both of Xypherous's previous champions were. That's a lot of CC and he sounds like he'll be a good straight up tank, though figuring out where to play him will be the real trick.


I reserve my judgment until the spotlight comes out so I know how he works.

barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
February 14 2012 05:59 GMT
#58
On February 14 2012 14:48 GranDim wrote:
http://dmmklpy.tumblr.com/post/17397894030/koropho-new-valentine-vayne-skin-yes-please

A little overdone in my opinion, something more subtle would fit Vayne better.


eew. I don't even remotely like that skin. wtf?
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 14 2012 06:01 GMT
#59
On February 14 2012 14:52 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Tbh though riot will probably nerf back shen next patch. That's how they always do it.


still haven't fixed vlad
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
February 14 2012 06:04 GMT
#60
On February 14 2012 14:55 Requizen wrote:
Amidst all the Shen buffs, no one is talking about Nautilus. I think he's going to be really damn good, as both of Xypherous's previous champions were. That's a lot of CC and he sounds like he'll be a good straight up tank, though figuring out where to play him will be the real trick.

Just based off his kit, he could work well in the jungle with good ganks with his Q pull then E slow and then passive stun. If you wanted to go for clear speed, his w looks promising.
Anyone know if his R is a targetable? If so, that's another move that will make him that much harder to get away from.
Ganking combo R->Q->Passive/E = dead, and you could throw in W in there for that extra bit of damage. I guess it comes down to the numbers and mana costs in the end.
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