EPT[Patch 1.0.0.134: Nautilus] General Discussion - Page 3
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jaybrundage
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zer0das
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ManyCookies
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anmolsinghmzn2009
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Brees
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Kenpachi
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Ryuu314
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On February 14 2012 14:07 gtrsrs wrote: i'm gonna go ahead and go against the grain here, and say shen isn't going to be OP vorpal costs more energy late-game taunt costs more energy late-game (though he does get more back, i will cede) taunt duration decreased by 0.5 seconds at rank 5 channel time and shield duration decreased at all ranks for his ult so yeah, a lot of areas he got a lot stronger on (damage, energy retention), but he lost some of his utility i think you guys are blowing his buffs out of proportion better early-game? yes, for sure. still have the problem of doing jack-all past mid-game? pretty much :\ edit: yeah, i'm kinda playing devil's advocate here - i'm moderately excited for my original favorite champ to be getting buffed. but COME ON GUYS he's not like skarner or rammus or morgana level strong imo I like how you completely neglected to mention the HUGE buff to his ki strike lol also, WW's passive is now a crappier version of MF's W O_O | ||
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GranDim
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A little overdone in my opinion, something more subtle would fit Vayne better. | ||
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Kenpachi
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Niton
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On February 14 2012 14:27 R04R wrote: A noticeable difference in the hardest lane to balance in the game Fortunately, Sona is brought because she has a very good mid-lategame, which was affected only slightly. I expect her to still be the top pick, followed by Janna, Alistar, Nunu and Leona in some order, with Taric getting picked until people realize he's still dogshit and then going to cry in a corner with Soraka. | ||
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Treadmill
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Cooldown is now reduced by 1.5 seconds whenever Shen attacks instead of 2 seconds when being attacked Note it doesn't mention that the cooldown was only reduced by autoattacks by champions, rather than in general. So for the changes does this mean that the cooldown is reduced whenever shen attacks anything or just when he attacks other champions? This would make a significant difference to jungle shen, if not to laning. And I can see it either way - though I'm leaning towards interpretting it as all his attacks lower its cooldown, it isn't clear. | ||
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warscythes
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On February 14 2012 14:47 Ryuu314 wrote: I like how you completely neglected to mention the HUGE buff to his ki strike lol also, WW's passive is now a crappier version of MF's W O_O WW still life steals, he is buffed because the sustain nerf is tiny and he still has more than enough to faceroll the jungle. Note it doesn't mention that the cooldown was only reduced by autoattacks by champions, rather than in general. So for the changes does this mean that the cooldown is reduced whenever shen attacks anything or just when he attacks other champions? This would make a significant difference to jungle shen, if not to laning. And I can see it either way - though I'm leaning towards interpretting it as all his attacks lower its cooldown, it isn't clear. I am 90% sure is on hit to everybody, not just champions. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
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gtrsrs
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On February 14 2012 14:47 Ryuu314 wrote: I like how you completely neglected to mention the HUGE buff to his ki strike lol also, WW's passive is now a crappier version of MF's W O_O not neglecting any of his buffs, just wanted to point out the plethora of nerfs he's receiving too, telling y'all to cool off thine heads | ||
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Requizen
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ManyCookies
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Note it doesn't mention that the cooldown was only reduced by autoattacks by champions, rather than in general. So for the changes does this mean that the cooldown is reduced whenever shen attacks anything or just when he attacks other champions? This would make a significant difference to jungle shen, if not to laning. And I can see it either way - though I'm leaning towards interpretting it as all his attacks lower its cooldown, it isn't clear. It did mention "Champion" in the previous wording, so I would assume it's against anything. Normally I would question that, but with the extent of his other buffs I really would be surprised if it was only against champions. Oh, and don't forget that the CD reduction on Ki Blade is 3 seconds with Fient up. And Ki Strike's damage is higher. And his Taunt lasts half a second longer at early ranks and now does a small but appreciable amount of damage. And he heals more with Vorpal Blade. But again, he's going to destroy Top Lane so hard that his jungle is going to go unnoticed. | ||
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warscythes
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On February 14 2012 14:55 Requizen wrote: Amidst all the Shen buffs, no one is talking about Nautilus. I think he's going to be really damn good, as both of Xypherous's previous champions were. That's a lot of CC and he sounds like he'll be a good straight up tank, though figuring out where to play him will be the real trick. I reserve my judgment until the spotlight comes out so I know how he works. | ||
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barbsq
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On February 14 2012 14:48 GranDim wrote: http://dmmklpy.tumblr.com/post/17397894030/koropho-new-valentine-vayne-skin-yes-please A little overdone in my opinion, something more subtle would fit Vayne better. eew. I don't even remotely like that skin. wtf? | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On February 14 2012 14:52 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: Tbh though riot will probably nerf back shen next patch. That's how they always do it. still haven't fixed vlad | ||
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beefhamburger
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On February 14 2012 14:55 Requizen wrote: Amidst all the Shen buffs, no one is talking about Nautilus. I think he's going to be really damn good, as both of Xypherous's previous champions were. That's a lot of CC and he sounds like he'll be a good straight up tank, though figuring out where to play him will be the real trick. Just based off his kit, he could work well in the jungle with good ganks with his Q pull then E slow and then passive stun. If you wanted to go for clear speed, his w looks promising. Anyone know if his R is a targetable? If so, that's another move that will make him that much harder to get away from. Ganking combo R->Q->Passive/E = dead, and you could throw in W in there for that extra bit of damage. I guess it comes down to the numbers and mana costs in the end. | ||
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