EPTEDIT: I guess a side problem is that with thornmail working the way it does, it makes it way more powerful against people who build tons of raw damage and no last whisper - i.e. people who don't know what they're doing. It's an order of magnitude stronger vs such players, and as such is gonna seem ridiculous in low elo if it becomes decent in high elo. But maybe Im overthinking it.
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Shanba
Scotland144 Posts
EDIT: I guess a side problem is that with thornmail working the way it does, it makes it way more powerful against people who build tons of raw damage and no last whisper - i.e. people who don't know what they're doing. It's an order of magnitude stronger vs such players, and as such is gonna seem ridiculous in low elo if it becomes decent in high elo. But maybe Im overthinking it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 27 2012 14:42 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Hmm thornmail nerf? Thornmail Returned damage reduced to 15% instead of 30% The damage is now returned as true damage instead of magic damage What is the expected magic resist of a ranged ad carry? edit: did some quick math. Better late game, worse early game. But late game the opponent is more likely to have more lifesteal because they finished their IE/PD. Someone like graves gets really close to the 50% magic damage reduction with just his passive and mr/lvl blues. You also need to consider your own armor, and how much the opponent would be lifestealing from you, which gives you 4 total variables you'd have to graph out. Most mr for carries is either QSS or Banshee veil, which is 50 mr and 57 mr respectively. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On February 27 2012 16:14 Requizen wrote: I'm just so underwhelmed by him lately compared to other "hypercarries" that could be played top. He has very little sticking power (unless you grab a FMallet or something), no innate survival other than CS, and he just feels squishy unless you build tank, which sucks because you're encouraged to jump in on a carry every fight. I dunno. Why would I play Jax when I can get the same or better performance out of Trynd, Riven, or someone else like that with less risk? That's exactly what I feel like. The only reason I would pick him is because I really like him and I like him because he used to be so powerful & everything about him is supposed to be badass. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
I don't understand why when Riot decided to copy Blade Mail to LoL, they decided to copy the shitty boring version of it that no one ever bought, rather than the remade version that was actually useful. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On February 27 2012 16:25 TheYango wrote: IMO the best change they could make to Thornmail is the same change that was made to Blade Mail in DotA. Remove the passive (which is boring, and realistically is not that practically useful compared to other items that are more practically useful against physical damage dealers like Randuin and FHeart), and make an active that has a higher damage return over a short duration, which makes it situationally useful to take pressure off you in certain situations (e.g. activate for 60% damage reflect for 4 seconds, 1 min CD). I don't understand why when Riot decided to copy Blade Mail to LoL, they decided to copy the shitty boring version of it that no one ever bought, rather than the remade version that was actually useful. i second this, only on the stipulation that it has a similar bad-ass-as-hell animation where spikes grow out of you on all sides and you're like COME@MEBRO.COM | ||
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Veclada
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
I guess you really can carry from support. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On February 27 2012 17:06 sob3k wrote: My winrate for support soraka, has climbed to 72%, significantly higher than any other role...wtf lol. I guess you really can carry from support. Of course you can, plenty of people get their elo up only playing support. | ||
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jadoth
694 Posts
On February 27 2012 16:36 gtrsrs wrote: i second this, only on the stipulation that it has a similar bad-ass-as-hell animation where spikes grow out of you on all sides and you're like COME@MEBRO.COM just made me see if COME@MEBRO.COM was a real place | ||
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Akinokaze
Australia326 Posts
Tristana: It is now impossible to launch rocket jump if the game detects that the selected location will make you jump up. Does this mean you can't rocket jump to high ground? (e.g up from baron/dragon cave) How legit are these notes anyway? I thought patch notes were always released first on NA. Edit: PBE got updated a few days a go with some of the same changes http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=601932 | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 27 2012 16:25 TheYango wrote: IMO the best change they could make to Thornmail is the same change that was made to Blade Mail in DotA. Remove the passive (which is boring, and realistically is not that practically useful compared to other items that are more practically useful against physical damage dealers like Randuin and FHeart), and make an active that has a higher damage return over a short duration, which makes it situationally useful to take pressure off you in certain situations (e.g. activate for 60% damage reflect for 4 seconds, 1 min CD). I don't understand why when Riot decided to copy Blade Mail to LoL, they decided to copy the shitty boring version of it that no one ever bought, rather than the remade version that was actually useful. Did the boring version also not return damage from spells? Thornmail would be considerably better if it wasn't limited to physical damage. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Took them many many months to even do anything to karma, probably the most underplayed champion in the game, and what do they do? Nerf her. On February 27 2012 17:15 jadoth wrote: A place? That's an email address.just made me see if COME@MEBRO.COM was a real place | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Edit: reading that "Xypherous post" quoted at the end of the French op, either their translation team is doing a bad job with typos, or this is a fake. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On February 27 2012 17:17 midnight.tokyo wrote: Does this mean you can't rocket jump to high ground? (e.g up from baron/dragon cave) Think it eliminates the times in which you simply jump straight up when you attempt to jump over things at awkward angles and stuff. Those times you'll see dud jumps in which you simply go straight up instead of to a target location. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
I call shenanigans on the whole situation, and I've never trusted the French. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I call bullshit. But frankly, when somebody says "I found this on NA!", links 2 Xypherous monoline posts with no content, 2 dead links (of a fake patch notes thread I believe?) and then someone on NA goes "I found this on French forum!", it's your bad for believing it guys.  | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 27 2012 16:18 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: That's exactly what I feel like. The only reason I would pick him is because I really like him and I like him because he used to be so powerful & everything about him is supposed to be badass. He's not an «hyper carry» anymore, but his kit is wonderful late game. And now he crushes everybody in lane starting from lvl1, since you can't even auto him. | ||
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