EPT[Patch 1.0.0.134: Nautilus] General Discussion - Page 161
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 27 2012 18:39 Shikyo wrote: Jax actually cant really win vs anyone before like lvl 6 or so. His E cooldown is just way too high in my opinion, he's completely defenseless whenever its on cooldown. I can't really think of champions he actually defeats apart from perhaps like, Gangplank. Yeah if you max E you look bad when it's on CD... But why max E first ? In lane just go for W and outdamage them with 1 or 2 well placed Es in the whole laning phase, when they really want to commit or when you draw creep agro. And once lv6 you stop trading, and start killing. Just don't be afraid of trading hit pre 6 and he lanes like a charm. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 27 2012 17:17 midnight.tokyo wrote: Ouch, another set of Sona nerfs. Does this mean you can't rocket jump to high ground? (e.g up from baron/dragon cave) How legit are these notes anyway? I thought patch notes were always released first on NA. Edit: PBE got updated a few days a go with some of the same changes http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=601932 I think it means you can't rocket jump into wukong's ulti? or something like htaT? | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Vs WW? Q decimates, you can't trade at all, get denied hard. Vs Yorick? not even going to get into this Vs Tryndamere? I really don't think he can win trades properly, gets W hit hit E'd or something similiar when he trades with W, all the while getting hit by a million creeps. If he uses E he's totally defenseless. Jax also has zero sustain while Trynd has plenty. Vs Gangplank? This can indeed work, though if you let him spam parrrrley you have no answer so yoou need to actively trade and his passive is crazy. Vs Riven? Well he gets just destroyed any time he goes to melee range. Vs all mages? Jax can't do a thing, gets denied. Morde especially is a complete hardcounter. Nasus? can't even tickle him. Then who are we left with... vs Nidalee he can't trade effectively, vs... hmmm... I guess he defeats Talon? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 27 2012 18:53 wei2coolman wrote: I think it means you can't rocket jump into wukong's ulti? or something like htaT? You know how when you try to rocket jump over a piece of terrain that's too wide, and you end up jumping in place rather than over the terrain? I assume it means instead of wasting your mana and CD when you try to do that, the spell will just not cast. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On February 27 2012 19:00 Shikyo wrote: Who will you outdmg with the W though? It's a melee spell and pulls aggro from minions, keep that in mind. Vs WW? Q decimates, you can't trade at all, get denied hard. Vs Yorick? not even going to get into this Vs Tryndamere? I really don't think he can win trades properly, gets W hit hit E'd or something similiar when he trades with W, all the while getting hit by a million creeps. If he uses E he's totally defenseless. Jax also has zero sustain while Trynd has plenty. Vs Gangplank? This can indeed work, though if you let him spam parrrrley you have no answer so yoou need to actively trade and his passive is crazy. Vs Riven? Well he gets just destroyed any time he goes to melee range. Vs all mages? Jax can't do a thing, gets denied. Morde especially is a complete hardcounter. Nasus? can't even tickle him. Then who are we left with... vs Nidalee he can't trade effectively, vs... hmmm... I guess he defeats Talon? Shikyo honestly throwing it out there that you should run up W any of these champs and run away... If you want to trade on Jax, make sure you stun, so you can actually trade and not get demolished. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 27 2012 19:21 Zdrastochye wrote: Shikyo honestly throwing it out there that you should run up W any of these champs and run away... If you want to trade on Jax, make sure you stun, so you can actually trade and not get demolished. In the early levels you don't need to stun. You can auto-W champs who go for melee last hits on the caster minions. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 27 2012 19:52 Shikyo wrote: Who's going to be bothered by the 2 autos and 40 magic damage? Either they have too much sustain to care(Yorick WW Tryndamere Xin Zhao, Olaf, Nasus and so on) or they outtrade you to hell and back(Riven, Pantheon) Well I'd be happy to try VS you then, care to play a few 1v1s on EU server ? | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On February 27 2012 20:02 mr_tolkien wrote: Well I'd be happy to try VS you then, care to play a few 1v1s on EU server ? Its a trap!  | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 27 2012 20:02 mr_tolkien wrote: Well I'd be happy to try VS you then, care to play a few 1v1s on EU server ? Yea as soon as I get back home, its either later tonight or tomorrow depending on how some things go today | ||
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On February 27 2012 14:27 De4ngus wrote: new patch notes http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1864334 very weird changes o.o Theses Patch notes are fakes. They are coming from the french forum, by a guy who has already made fake patch notes, and his 'sources' do not exist. Do only trust what you see on PBE, and wait for the real patch notes guys. | ||
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Gaslo
Finland951 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
Just tested out a «fast» Bruta on Ali jungle (Philo Blade Sheen Bruta), god was it dirty once I had it oO W, R, Bruta, Q, bye bye. I begun 4/0/1 in 15 minutes iirc, ended 10/2/7 at 25. This burst is so strong (while remaining incredibly tanky with an ult on 60s cd) oO | ||
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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On February 27 2012 21:05 Tyrran wrote: Theses Patch notes are fakes. They are coming from the french forum, by a guy who has already made fake patch notes, and his 'sources' do not exist. Do only trust what you see on PBE, and wait for the real patch notes guys. On February 27 2012 15:08 De4ngus wrote: okokok im pretty sure the patch notes are fake now. there are other similar posts showing up like the stealth rework one where xypherious said its fake. for anyone else who missed the discussion here is good tho ;o | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
The latest pbe patch notes, in actual english instead of google-translated. I don't see any weird tristana notes. | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On February 27 2012 21:55 sylverfyre wrote: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=601932 The latest pbe patch notes, in actual english instead of google-translated. I don't see any weird tristana notes. Item callouts for game changing items. Maybe now people will realize just how game changing wards are. XD. I hear they announce whenever you buy a ward. That's a good hint to your team that wards are kinda useful. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
How about the toplane? I recognize that vs Noct I get brush-ganked relatively often from the further brush, so against him I guess the wards would be an allright idea, how about other junglers? Also I guess vsGaren or something as ranged it might be a good idea | ||
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