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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 27 2012 13:40 GMT
#3221
On February 27 2012 22:05 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 21:55 sylverfyre wrote:
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=601932
The latest pbe patch notes, in actual english instead of google-translated. I don't see any weird tristana notes.

Item callouts for game changing items.

Maybe now people will realize just how game changing wards are. XD.

I hear they announce whenever you buy a ward. That's a good hint to your team that wards are kinda useful.

Its gonna be really fucking annoying IMO. Makes using chat to communicate really hard every time someone goes back to base.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
February 27 2012 13:47 GMT
#3222
On February 27 2012 22:40 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 22:05 Kyo Yuy wrote:
On February 27 2012 21:55 sylverfyre wrote:
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=601932
The latest pbe patch notes, in actual english instead of google-translated. I don't see any weird tristana notes.

Item callouts for game changing items.

Maybe now people will realize just how game changing wards are. XD.

I hear they announce whenever you buy a ward. That's a good hint to your team that wards are kinda useful.

Its gonna be really fucking annoying IMO. Makes using chat to communicate really hard every time someone goes back to base.


I don't think we will see: Two_DoWn BOUGHT A HEALTH POTION!

Probably just legendary items, IE, MBR, BV... and so on
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
February 27 2012 13:48 GMT
#3223
On February 27 2012 22:47 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 22:40 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 27 2012 22:05 Kyo Yuy wrote:
On February 27 2012 21:55 sylverfyre wrote:
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=601932
The latest pbe patch notes, in actual english instead of google-translated. I don't see any weird tristana notes.

Item callouts for game changing items.

Maybe now people will realize just how game changing wards are. XD.

I hear they announce whenever you buy a ward. That's a good hint to your team that wards are kinda useful.

Its gonna be really fucking annoying IMO. Makes using chat to communicate really hard every time someone goes back to base.


I don't think we will see: Two_DoWn BOUGHT A HEALTH POTION!

Probably just legendary items, IE, MBR, BV... and so on


I believe at this stage it's aura items (Shurelia's / Zeke's etc) and maybe wards / oracles.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
February 27 2012 13:56 GMT
#3224
isnt there a wide agreement on shen being too powerfull at the moment? I like that riot approaches this issue with caution though.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
February 27 2012 13:57 GMT
#3225
How does everyone feel about jungle mundo? His clears are just CRAZY fast, has good ganks if you run exhaust, but I feel so weak in the mid/late game, don't feel like I have any place in the team fights. I am also undecidied as what I should build after HoG and Wits end. I think going atmogs might be the best bet so your late game is better. but god perma slowing someone with mallet is so satisfying.
I'm a Crab made of men.
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
February 27 2012 14:00 GMT
#3226
Small golem camp
Movement Speed increased to 300 from 180
Medium Golem base damage increased to 59 from 54
The golems will now be much harder to kite, meaning that bot lane will have to actually take some damage while they take golems. How will that change things?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 27 2012 14:03 GMT
#3227
On February 27 2012 23:00 Lokrium wrote:
Small golem camp
Movement Speed increased to 300 from 180
Medium Golem base damage increased to 59 from 54
The golems will now be much harder to kite, meaning that bot lane will have to actually take some damage while they take golems. How will that change things?

Riot just wants to make it so getting blue side doesnt equate to an automatic lead for bot lane. It doesnt change so much as equilize.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
February 27 2012 14:23 GMT
#3228
Just bought Jarman, time to dunk people.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
February 27 2012 14:28 GMT
#3229
How the hell did dyrus just dunk on that yorick? I mean yorick is considered a good solo top. He can beat champions with high sustain. And now that yorick lost to blitzcrank that isn't considered a good solo top. Im confused o.O
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 27 2012 14:31 GMT
#3230
Just got to 3150 IP. Got 4 champions left to buy at that price. Shen, Olaf, Sona, Leblanc.

I tend to play junglers most of the time, so either Shen or Olaf is what it's going to be. How is Olaf jungle atm?
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 27 2012 14:39 GMT
#3231
Is Ocelote always this ragey? It's kinda annoying to see him behave like the jungler and the laners whose lane he comes to gank are at his disposal.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
February 27 2012 14:39 GMT
#3232
On February 27 2012 23:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just got to 3150 IP. Got 4 champions left to buy at that price. Shen, Olaf, Sona, Leblanc.

I tend to play junglers most of the time, so either Shen or Olaf is what it's going to be. How is Olaf jungle atm?


Olaf! He is manly. He's getting buffs too and has high skill cap
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 27 2012 14:39 GMT
#3233
On February 27 2012 23:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just got to 3150 IP. Got 4 champions left to buy at that price. Shen, Olaf, Sona, Leblanc.

I tend to play junglers most of the time, so either Shen or Olaf is what it's going to be. How is Olaf jungle atm?


Its pretty crappy, hes in the same boat as shen really, they are just way stronger top.

I would pick up olaf and learn how to play him top, then use him as a counterpick to Shen, he does really well and the new buffs on olaf axe look nice.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 14:43:30
February 27 2012 14:42 GMT
#3234
On February 27 2012 23:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just got to 3150 IP. Got 4 champions left to buy at that price. Shen, Olaf, Sona, Leblanc.

I tend to play junglers most of the time, so either Shen or Olaf is what it's going to be. How is Olaf jungle atm?

Olaf is good and getting some buffs/nerfs coming up this patch. Overall I actually think he is quite strong if you build him like a tanky dps (wriggles-tri) but most people tend to build him wriggles-atmogs, which is much more expensive and completely shuts down the window where he can dominate (midgame) and instead shoots for the UBER late game where he can dominate again. I find wriggles-tri actually lets you have a midgame AND an uberlategame. And he is getting buffed, although what the ult change is is debatable (im kind of torn myself, but I think I like it, especially since my build needs a way to survive magic burst cuz I have lower health).

But if you actually want to PLAY the champion you buy, go with olaf, cuz shen is permabanned in ranked.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
February 27 2012 14:43 GMT
#3235
Some people DO play Normals, you know.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 27 2012 14:50 GMT
#3236
On February 27 2012 23:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 23:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just got to 3150 IP. Got 4 champions left to buy at that price. Shen, Olaf, Sona, Leblanc.

I tend to play junglers most of the time, so either Shen or Olaf is what it's going to be. How is Olaf jungle atm?

Olaf is good and getting some buffs/nerfs coming up this patch. Overall I actually think he is quite strong if you build him like a tanky dps (wriggles-tri) but most people tend to build him wriggles-atmogs, which is much more expensive and completely shuts down the window where he can dominate (midgame) and instead shoots for the UBER late game where he can dominate again. I find wriggles-tri actually lets you have a midgame AND an uberlategame. And he is getting buffed, although what the ult change is is debatable (im kind of torn myself, but I think I like it, especially since my build needs a way to survive magic burst cuz I have lower health).

But if you actually want to PLAY the champion you buy, go with olaf, cuz shen is permabanned in ranked.


Shen ain't permabanned at my elo

~1350 Euw. He isn't banned in most of my games. He was in the shen free week though.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 27 2012 14:52 GMT
#3237
On February 27 2012 23:43 ManyCookies wrote:
Some people DO play Normals, you know.

Oi. I do play normals. I just either use them to learn stuff (and fail badly) or to troll (and fail badly). There IS a reason Im the only 1700+ player with a 50-50 win ratio in normals.

Oh and Sobek- Olaf's jungle is REALLY fucking good. He has the fastest clear in the game ATM (seriously. 8 minute wriggles and boots is SLOW for him) can 1v1 anyone early, has infinite sustain, very undderated ganks, and superb dragon control.

The reason people think he sucks is because no one has bothered to try to adjust their build to not getting as much gold as solo top so he ends up useless the whole game long. Hence why you need to get bruiser items on him and not health items.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 27 2012 14:55 GMT
#3238
On February 27 2012 23:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 23:43 ManyCookies wrote:
Some people DO play Normals, you know.

Oi. I do play normals. I just either use them to learn stuff (and fail badly) or to troll (and fail badly). There IS a reason Im the only 1700+ player with a 50-50 win ratio in normals.

Oh and Sobek- Olaf's jungle is REALLY fucking good. He has the fastest clear in the game ATM (seriously. 8 minute wriggles and boots is SLOW for him) can 1v1 anyone early, has infinite sustain, very undderated ganks, and superb dragon control.

The reason people think he sucks is because no one has bothered to try to adjust their build to not getting as much gold as solo top so he ends up useless the whole game long. Hence why you need to get bruiser items on him and not health items.


What do you run as masteries/runes on jungle Olaf? 9/21/0? And for leveling, Q>W>Q>E and then a priority of R>Q>W>E? or E before W?
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 27 2012 15:04 GMT
#3239
On February 27 2012 23:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 23:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 27 2012 23:43 ManyCookies wrote:
Some people DO play Normals, you know.

Oi. I do play normals. I just either use them to learn stuff (and fail badly) or to troll (and fail badly). There IS a reason Im the only 1700+ player with a 50-50 win ratio in normals.

Oh and Sobek- Olaf's jungle is REALLY fucking good. He has the fastest clear in the game ATM (seriously. 8 minute wriggles and boots is SLOW for him) can 1v1 anyone early, has infinite sustain, very undderated ganks, and superb dragon control.

The reason people think he sucks is because no one has bothered to try to adjust their build to not getting as much gold as solo top so he ends up useless the whole game long. Hence why you need to get bruiser items on him and not health items.


What do you run as masteries/runes on jungle Olaf? 9/21/0? And for leveling, Q>W>Q>E and then a priority of R>Q>W>E? or E before W?

I had been experimenting with armpen/armor/mrlvl/ad, with a 0-21-9 with buff duration for more axe spam that first clear with blue (which basically makes you the fastest clearer in the game). q-w-(q or e depending on if you are ganking)- whatever you didnt get (basically at level 4 you want 2 points in q and 1 in w and e). Max q, then e, then w. Idealy you have bits if not all of your triforce in time for your level 13 340 true damage. And you basically turn into a monster. After that build tank.

Just make sure you bring ghost. You need it badly to prevent kiting, especially before phage.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 27 2012 15:07 GMT
#3240
On February 28 2012 00:04 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 23:55 Doctorbeat wrote:
On February 27 2012 23:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 27 2012 23:43 ManyCookies wrote:
Some people DO play Normals, you know.

Oi. I do play normals. I just either use them to learn stuff (and fail badly) or to troll (and fail badly). There IS a reason Im the only 1700+ player with a 50-50 win ratio in normals.

Oh and Sobek- Olaf's jungle is REALLY fucking good. He has the fastest clear in the game ATM (seriously. 8 minute wriggles and boots is SLOW for him) can 1v1 anyone early, has infinite sustain, very undderated ganks, and superb dragon control.

The reason people think he sucks is because no one has bothered to try to adjust their build to not getting as much gold as solo top so he ends up useless the whole game long. Hence why you need to get bruiser items on him and not health items.


What do you run as masteries/runes on jungle Olaf? 9/21/0? And for leveling, Q>W>Q>E and then a priority of R>Q>W>E? or E before W?

I had been experimenting with armpen/armor/mrlvl/ad, with a 0-21-9 with buff duration for more axe spam that first clear with blue (which basically makes you the fastest clearer in the game). q-w-(q or e depending on if you are ganking)- whatever you didnt get (basically at level 4 you want 2 points in q and 1 in w and e). Max q, then e, then w. Idealy you have bits if not all of your triforce in time for your level 13 340 true damage. And you basically turn into a monster. After that build tank.

Just make sure you bring ghost. You need it badly to prevent kiting, especially before phage.


Thanks. I always liked Olaf's playstyle, so I'll probably buy him if he doesn't go free this week.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
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