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On March 05 2012 08:35 stokes17 wrote:
Hey I'm a new LoL player too (master in SC2). I've been playing as graves but there is no thread on him in the sub forum, and I certainly don't have enough knowledge to make one. SO can any1 just give me some starter pointers for graves? Or point me in the right direction? (hear mixed things about mobafire)
Honestly mobafire is fine for starting out and learning the game. Some of the guides are quite good and people just like to bash on them because not every single guide is high quality. Look for the higher/highest rated guides for the champ you want to play and follow it, but with a grain of salt. The order of items may not always be ideal in the guides but your final build will be fairly close to what's standard. For most AD carries (like Graves), aim for berserker greaves (boots), infinity edge, phantom dancer, last whipser, bloodthirster (vampiric scepter much earlier though), and then a quicksilver sash or banshee's veil, mostly in that order. You can start out with boots or 2-3 doran's blades and sell the blades later when you need slots later on. Just think about the items you buy and try to understand why you get it over other items. Your build order may change slightly depending on how your game is going but the final build is usually the same 6 items.
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/ranged-carry-resource-168832 is pretty good to get started and teaches you how to roughly play an AD carry. Notice how the build is a little out of order from what's standard, but still the same at the end.
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Concerning Mobafire: no reason to get into the habit of using it. Might aswell just use real guides. lolpro.com and solomid.net both provide guides of great value.
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You can also just not follow any guides and figure out for yourself what works for you. Most of the pros still have no idea what's best, often arguing whether wriggles first is best or whether black cleaver/IE/bloodthirster is. Following guides doesn't lead to any innovation. It's also less fun if you don't theorycraft for yourself. If you want to get better quickly though, then yes you have to follow guides.
If you want to be one of the best anivias or twitches though, there is no rule that you have to build according to a guide.
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Oh yeah you can use the rune combiner to get tier 3 runes below level 20
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I have a question: how do you change location of items? Say if I want to make my Zhonya's in the first slot instead of the 6th, what do I do?
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You click and drag the items from the slot its in to the slot you want. I think this is a horrible part of the UI.
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Just played for a while. Fun game but my god I swear it has an awful community.
Picked a champion for no other reason than it was what I had played last game and wanted a bit of consistency in learning. Get abuse for having picked a "3rd ap champ". I actually got first blood, and finished with 2/4/6, but apparently it is entirely my fault we lost for "feeding" the whole game. They had a champion which I assume has stealth and came out of nowhere and would kill me pretty quick. I asked for help with how to deal with it, none is given. Fine, call me a noob but at least tell me what I did wrong.
But yeah, fun game. Not so sure it's one I want to stick with though given the community.
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On March 08 2012 09:19 Deadeight wrote:
Just played for a while. Fun game but my god I swear it has an awful community.
Picked a champion for no other reason than it was what I had played last game and wanted a bit of consistency in learning. Get abuse for having picked a "3rd ap champ". I actually got first blood, and finished with 2/4/6, but apparently it is entirely my fault we lost for "feeding" the whole game. They had a champion which I assume has stealth and came out of nowhere and would kill me pretty quick. I asked for help with how to deal with it, none is given. Fine, call me a noob but at least tell me what I did wrong.
But yeah, fun game. Not so sure it's one I want to stick with though given the community.
It seems like you just got a couple of bad teammates. Typically teammates are more than willing to help you figure out anything that you don't understand and can be pretty forgiving if you don't rage back at them.
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On March 08 2012 09:19 Deadeight wrote:
Just played for a while. Fun game but my god I swear it has an awful community.
Picked a champion for no other reason than it was what I had played last game and wanted a bit of consistency in learning. Get abuse for having picked a "3rd ap champ". I actually got first blood, and finished with 2/4/6, but apparently it is entirely my fault we lost for "feeding" the whole game. They had a champion which I assume has stealth and came out of nowhere and would kill me pretty quick. I asked for help with how to deal with it, none is given. Fine, call me a noob but at least tell me what I did wrong.
But yeah, fun game. Not so sure it's one I want to stick with though given the community.
I find people are usually nice in your first few games.. maybe you gained too much ELO
Just don't say anything, hold tab, and click the chat button to ignore them. They can still see your pings and your text but they can't send text to you.
With regards to stealth champions, in the laning phase place a pink ward somewhere in your lane. Carry a pink ward on you at all times if the stealth champion is jungling. The ward is found under consumables. Whenever the enemy jungler is within a certain range of the pink ward, and you see them, they can be revealed. I think this is still a bit buggy.
In the late game, ONE, no more, tanky characters on your team should have an oracles elixer (under consumables) at all times. If two people get oracles and a team fight breaks out and you lose, your team loses 800 more gold, that's why people don't get more than one. One oracles is needed on both sides anyways to clear wards. Just to be clear you must consume the oracles elixer to be able to see stealthed champions.
As you get more experience you'll learn a few exceptions to what I've said. Like getting away with green wards vs noob twitches or getting an extra oracles on a split pusher or an oracles on the support instead of the tank.
Stealth champions are all very squishy and most are bad duelists. If you are an AP mid you can usually one shot them if you are level 6 or higher.
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I read earlier in the thread that I should bind my autocast to 1234, but wouldnt this interfere with the item hotkeys? Is autocasting important enough that I should unbind my item hotkeys?
BTW im new to LOL and I really like it although there is nothing quite as useful for beginners as some of the day9 dalies were when I started playing SC2 (mental checklist and whatnot)
Also, it is somewhat frustrating how I will join a game and my whole team will choose ranged, and I have to balance out the team because no one understands how important it is to work together. It is also very strange to me how little people understand about the game at low levels. For instance half the games I play most of my team doesnt even focus on farming and they spend all their effort trying to gank while they have like 15 creep kills. Cant wait till I finally get to play with people that arent horrible, but at least I'm winning more than half my games.
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watch Hazmat (on TL sidebar) and go on his IRC. He usually answers questions as he can plays and he can play at different Elo levels to give you an idea of what's going on.
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On March 08 2012 11:17 besteady wrote:
I read earlier in the thread that I should bind my autocast to 1234, but wouldnt this interfere with the item hotkeys? Is autocasting important enough that I should unbind my item hotkeys?
I wouldn't do this personally, but I typically remap QWER into smartcast and turn on the smartcast range indicators. I think things would be fine if smartcast were the default, honestly. Whatever you do, keep your item hotkeys *somewhere*. And don't do like I do...*remember* to use the actives on your Randuin's, Wriggle's, etc.
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On March 08 2012 07:17 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
You click and drag the items from the slot its in to the slot you want. I think this is a horrible part of the UI.
Thanks!
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On March 08 2012 09:19 Deadeight wrote:
Just played for a while. Fun game but my god I swear it has an awful community.
Picked a champion for no other reason than it was what I had played last game and wanted a bit of consistency in learning. Get abuse for having picked a "3rd ap champ". I actually got first blood, and finished with 2/4/6, but apparently it is entirely my fault we lost for "feeding" the whole game. They had a champion which I assume has stealth and came out of nowhere and would kill me pretty quick. I asked for help with how to deal with it, none is given. Fine, call me a noob but at least tell me what I did wrong.
But yeah, fun game. Not so sure it's one I want to stick with though given the community.
What did you play? If you don't know the game (like me) I think you should play against bots... I actually find that kind of fun... since against players there will always be angst...
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On March 08 2012 11:17 besteady wrote:
I read earlier in the thread that I should bind my autocast to 1234, but wouldnt this interfere with the item hotkeys? Is autocasting important enough that I should unbind my item hotkeys?
BTW im new to LOL and I really like it although there is nothing quite as useful for beginners as some of the day9 dalies were when I started playing SC2 (mental checklist and whatnot)
Also, it is somewhat frustrating how I will join a game and my whole team will choose ranged, and I have to balance out the team because no one understands how important it is to work together. It is also very strange to me how little people understand about the game at low levels. For instance half the games I play most of my team doesnt even focus on farming and they spend all their effort trying to gank while they have like 15 creep kills. Cant wait till I finally get to play with people that arent horrible, but at least I'm winning more than half my games.
I think colbycheese has a summoner academy on youtube. You might be familiar with him from SC2.
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Anyone wanna also help me playing some LoL?
this is jsut difficult because people just swear at me...........................................................................
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On March 09 2012 07:32 Messi wrote:
Anyone wanna also help me playing some LoL?
this is jsut difficult because people just swear at me...........................................................................
Just ignore people, especially at low levels / low ELO and simply play the game.
The most important thing in learning LoL is just playing A LOT. And you can only play a lot if you have fun.
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so far been using janna a lot atm. although playing the same support hero every game gettin a bit boring, so tried out ahri chick a bit. pretty fun, but her learning curve seems a tad bit higher, and when i use her, i'm almost always solo'ing mid, which i have no idea what i'm doing heh
edit: how's katarina btw?
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On March 09 2012 16:32 sung_moon wrote:
so far been using janna a lot atm. although playing the same support hero every game gettin a bit boring, so tried out ahri chick a bit. pretty fun, but her learning curve seems a tad bit higher, and when i use her, i'm almost always solo'ing mid, which i have no idea what i'm doing heh
edit: how's katarina btw?
She's easy, has no mana, good escape, and lots of damage on her ult for teamfights. She has to get close to deal damage though so she requires correct positioning. The better your opponents are the weaker she is since good opponents stun her when she ults and save stuns. She's also really reliant on killing someone to refresh her cooldowns.
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Katarina and Ahri both super fun champs imo, wish I was good at ap 
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