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It's really good if you find some other players around your level to queue up with. I'm level 16 so you probably shouldn't queue up with me yet since I play a little better opponents in normals than you would, but after you get into the middle teens you'd probably be ok to queue up with me :D. Also, when the trolls in LoL get to you (which is SUPER easy to have happen), cool off with a vs. AI. You still get IP (up to level 15, then you get IP for only a few hours of gameplay per day), still get the 1st win of the day bonus if it's your first win, and you get to at least play with real people on your team. Also helps with last hitting and trying out the new f2p champs.
Last hitting is really important. At the low levels you can last hit your way to victory without any ganking ability or knowledge of buffs, dragon, baron etc. Also, watch streams. Scarra streams on twitch sometimes (he's a pro player for Dignitas, like 2300 ELO. Has been, and may currently be, the #1 player on ladder), as does fellow Dignitas teammate Voyboy. LoCicero streams on TL occasionally (not enough IMO, I love LoCicero) and is a good source as a former pro Dignitas player.
In terms of tournament games, the recent IEM had a very good finals, and some of the other games were fine as well. It can be nice to watch casted tournament games to understand how to use some champions, what champions the pros think are good and useful, the roles that each team needs to have, and the mystery of the jungle (and the counter-jungle, and the counter-counter jungle when it comes to m5).
Feel free to add me on LoL, just let me know who you are when you do. I'm IgnaciousBrown. Have fun on the battlefields of Summoners Rift!
Also, never ever play 3v3. It has a different (and really stupid) metagame.
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i have the best and the most useful advise
be emotion less...raging/stressing not worth it
just enjoy and mute w/e gets on your nerves lol :D
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The liquidparty ryze thread seems to have a bugged mastry page. The traditional Ryze mastery page has been 9/0/21. This allows you get get 10cdr and then get full cooldown reduction (40% is the max) when completing your frozen heart since you also add Ryze's Q passive. Ryze does not build AP which is why RoA is bad because AP does not scale off his abilities much compared the mana scaling (mana increasing dmg of his Q notably). Ryze starts with boots 3 pots then goes catalyst or tears, catalyst first if it's a difficult lane. The full build for Ryze seems to usually be
boots-> tears->catalyst->sorc/merc boots-> glacicial shard
then turning either catalyst to banshees or glaicial shard into frozen heart
then getting void staff and will of the ancients
The very last thing done is turning tears of the goddess into a archangel staff.
Oh and about buying runes before you're summoner lvl 20. You can only buy tier 1 and 2 runes before summoner lvl 20 and they really don't help you that much. They will just be a waste of time later on because you want to spend your IP on tier 3 runes. I bought tier 1 and 2 runes and ended up just compining them to increase their tier but it's random what rune you will end up with. So I have a few random tier 3 runes I don't use and a tier 2 rune that I can't get rid of as well which I find asthetically displeasing :l
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Solo mid and mobafire are really good websites. Try to find a champion to suit each role and make sure you enjoy the champion. I hope you stay around and make sure to ignore the shitty people that you will no doubt have to play with/against.
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On February 14 2012 03:03 Mementoss wrote:
1. Try out a bunch of champions just playing games.
2. Pick your favourite champion.
3. Go to solomid.net find a featured guide for that champion and follow it.
4. Learn to last hit and focus on it.
5. Learn from your mistakes (when to tower dive, to properly flash/ghost away, who to target in team fights etc).
6. Have fun and don't rage all the time like 90% of LoL players.
Gotta say, 50% is just way too low... Might just be me though. :d
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Wow. I should have asked this question; so much useful information here for us newbs XD
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On February 14 2012 02:57 BlasiuS wrote:
Hi, longtime TL member, first time LoL player. A few questions:
How do I get up to speed the fastest in LoL?
Is there a TL-equivalent site for LoL?
What basics should I work on first?
Are there any good non-champion-specific guides for new players I should know about?
What are some good champion choices for a newb like myself? Right now I play Ryze, since he seems nuke-ish, and being an undead player in WC3, nuking fits my style very well.
LvL 30 noob here, as an "experienced but still noob" I can suggest this:
1. Play dominion, you learn basic mechanics, and don't ruin games (teammates don't rage).
2. afaik no TL-equivalent site for LoL. Check mobafire for guides.
3. Learn when to farm and map-awareness. Last hitting is not issue as long as you no when to farm and when to help your team.
4. I was undead too :D. However you should play more tanky ones, I suggest Malphite, he is great at everything teamfight, laning, chasing, 1v1 and farming. basic combo Q->R->E->Q. Straightforward item build (Mana, ramor and CDR).
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I wouldn't say Dominion is a good place to learn mechanics. It's a good sandbox for trying out heroes and builds yes, but not mechanics. Last hitting is different in dominion and that's the major mechanical skill you need to learn. Strategy in Dominion is also different than Summoner's rift, you mainly just run at points and fight in Domion which is not helpful learning experience. You may or may not find Dominion fun, if you enjoy it play it, but it's not a good learning tool except for experimentation.
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I think you can learn a lot about sieging, dueling, and team fighting from Dominion but last hitting you'll need to play on SR.
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On February 15 2012 14:23 bokeevboke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 02:57 BlasiuS wrote:
Hi, longtime TL member, first time LoL player. A few questions:
How do I get up to speed the fastest in LoL?
Is there a TL-equivalent site for LoL?
What basics should I work on first?
Are there any good non-champion-specific guides for new players I should know about?
What are some good champion choices for a newb like myself? Right now I play Ryze, since he seems nuke-ish, and being an undead player in WC3, nuking fits my style very well. LvL 30 noob here, as an "experienced but still noob" I can suggest this: 1. Play dominion, you learn basic mechanics, and don't ruin games (teammates don't rage). 2. afaik no TL-equivalent site for LoL. Check mobafire for guides. 3. Learn when to farm and map-awareness. Last hitting is not issue as long as you no when to farm and when to help your team. 4. I was undead too :D. However you should play more tanky ones, I suggest Malphite, he is great at everything teamfight, laning, chasing, 1v1 and farming. basic combo Q->R->E->Q. Straightforward item build (Mana, ramor and CDR).
I wouldn't suggest blindly following this advice. No offense, BUT:
1. Dominion mechanics will only get you to a certain point, and for a newer player who hasn't played hundreds of games on SR before trying Dominion like most of us did, it advocates a play style that's poisonous for your performance on SR. You'll rarely if ever go and farm on Dominion to get your items (unless you are bottom lane), you'll often chase champs until they're dead, you're rushing objectives, often regardless of the creepflow of the lane. It's fun, but so is experiencing normal games with people equally unexperienced. If you want to learn to play on Summoner's Rift, go play Summoner's Rift.
2. There's no community quite as little, close, knowledged and awesome as TL, at least as far as I'm aware. But as it's been stated multiple times, even the top rated guides on Mobafire often are utter garbage. some examples of subpar mobafire guides (that last one suggests Akali and Kassadin as one of the strongest AD characters. Also, author sees no reason to ever start boots unless you're against Udyr or Trynd. Wat.)
3. You don't need to know when to farm - you need to know when to stop. And yeah, last hitting IS an issue, up to higher levels of play. I valiantly decided to go back to the basics and re-learn last hitting a week ago. I was able to improve my CS at 10 minutes by around 15, my CS at 20 by about 50. Last hitting is an essential mechanic that gets you places. With my new ability to farm better, I was finally able to get to gold rating.
4. More tanky ones? Ryze is the tankiest of pure mages. If you enjoy him, keep learning him. He got slightly nerfed this patch, but he's still an awesome pick.
Again, no offense intended. I'm sure you had the best intentions, but in my opinion, you were wrong concerning some points.
Unrelated:
you asked for non-champion-specific guides, here they are:
Very basic overview, but it's great to have all the abbreviations at one place.
A basic guide for jungling
A basic guide for mid lane
Basic lasthitting
Those are just some examples. Make sure to browse the generic guide section on Solomid and check out what raises your interest.
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On February 15 2012 07:33 Tatari wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 03:03 Mementoss wrote:
1. Try out a bunch of champions just playing games.
2. Pick your favourite champion.
3. Go to solomid.net find a featured guide for that champion and follow it.
4. Learn to last hit and focus on it.
5. Learn from your mistakes (when to tower dive, to properly flash/ghost away, who to target in team fights etc).
6. Have fun and don't rage all the time like 90% of LoL players. Gotta say, 50% is just way too low... Might just be me though. :d
It's definitely not 50% more like 90% like you edited it out.
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Really all you gotta do is play more games and think about what you could've done better.
Watching top streams do something and then figuring out why they made the decision helps a lot. Even when the streamers go full retard and die, you can usually learn something valuable (e.g. they committed to the fight thinking X was still in lane when they had really gone mia, which offers knowledge in how to gauge fights before they start). There's tons of little things, but you won't learn them without just playing.
The three biggest areas that every new player struggles with is last hitting, map awareness, and gauging fights. You learn all of these from experience -- there is no substitute. If you aren't willing to check your ego at the door and figure out how to improve, you'll just continue to struggle and blame myths like "Elo Hell" or think that you really belong at e.g. 2k Elo, but sit at 1400 after hundreds of ranked games. Accept your rating and look for ways to improve, don't try to blame the system as a crutch.
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On February 15 2012 20:37 Craton wrote:
Really all you gotta do is play more games and think about what you could've done better.
Watching top streams do something and then figuring out why they made the decision helps a lot. Even when the streamers go full retard and die, you can usually learn something valuable (e.g. they committed to the fight thinking X was still in lane when they had really gone mia, which offers knowledge in how to gauge fights before they start). There's tons of little things, but you won't learn them without just playing.
The three biggest areas that every new player struggles with is last hitting, map awareness, and gauging fights. You learn all of these from experience -- there is no substitute. If you aren't willing to check your ego at the door and figure out how to improve, you'll just continue to struggle and blame myths like "Elo Hell" or think that you really belong at e.g. 2k Elo, but sit at 1400 after hundreds of ranked games. Accept your rating and look for ways to improve, don't try to blame the system as a crutch.
Basically what he's saying is be the best person on your team and jungle or solo top to carry the game.
ELO hell truly does exist, its a cesspool of tryhards and trolls, gl ever getting out if you're mediocre.
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On February 14 2012 04:06 BlasiuS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 04:01 BlackMagister wrote:
Also don't buy runes until you reach summoner lvl 20. Hm this seems odd, care to explain? Right now it seems to take forever to level up, it took me around 8 or 9 games to go from level 5 to level 6. This would seem to put me at a disadvantage until I was level 20.
basically every T1 and T2 rune you buy is wasted points, since you replace them with T3 anyway. you could buy a few T1 runes cause they are very cheap, but on the other hand, the effects are so low that you hardly feel a difference. however, you shouldnt buy a single T2 rune.. its just a waste. id recommend not to buy any runes before lvl 20, too. while leveling, you wont lose a game because of missing runes 
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I forgot to mention this but it is the biggest difference between a wide-eyed young noob and a cynical pro: You should realize that farming gets you more goals than killing. If you get something like 18 cs it gives you more gold than a kill. Factoring in the time it takes to walk from one lane to another and the possibility that you fuck up the kill or get counter-ganked, it is seriously almost never worth it to try to kill someone when you could just stay in lane and farm more even if you are so powerful that you know you could kill whoever you want to. Even if your own tower goes down, just buy some wards and place them in the jungle next to you to make sure nobody is sneaking up on you and farm longer.
If you buy 4 wards and notice an opportunity to kill someone then it has already paid for itself. Don't get this mentality that because you are the carry you shouldn't buy wards--its fucking stupid to not ward even though nobody at your level does it. It's better to spend too much money on wards than not enough--a lot of the time when i know the only way my team can win is if we totally catch the other team off guard, i will buy 5-7 wards instead of a health crystal or whatever
edit: t1 runes are great if you want to try out jungling before you hit level 20. that's the only reason though
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As a fellow noob i must say i having hard time getting the information i need from TL threads ,
though i really respect TL community much above any other (specially compared to lol ones ;p)
With a thread i don't know what information is current and what is too old.
Some aberrations are unknown to me ,
and some information is skipped because its seem trivial ("just use Normal AD runes / build")
so for now i use moba fire one , though i must admit even for me some of it feel not exactly correct , but the readability and explanations really help a lot when you have no idea , when even a slight discussion is very confusing.
i also find it very hard find streams for champions i want to learn (ashe / chogath / zilean)
i must say being a newbie is hard , but lol is indeed fun .
i will say one thing though , if you have any question TL is the right place for it , and read the GD from time to time as well
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Don't use mobafire for anything. If you have issues with TL guides, ask in the thread. Terminology issues you can ask either in the thread or in general discussion. Failing that, use solomid guides.
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On February 15 2012 22:08 haflo wrote:As a fellow noob i must say i having hard time getting the information i need from TL threads , though i really respect TL community much above any other (specially compared to lol ones ;p) With a thread i don't know what information is current and what is too old. Some aberrations are unknown to me , and some information is skipped because its seem trivial ("just use Normal AD runes / build") so for now i use moba fire one , though i must admit even for me some of it feel not exactly correct , but the readability and explanations really help a lot when you have no idea , when even a slight discussion is very confusing. i also find it very hard find streams for champions i want to learn (ashe / chogath / zilean) i must say being a newbie is hard , but lol is indeed fun . i will say one thing though , if you have any question TL is the right place for it , and read the GD from time to time as well
Craton replied to your issue with the TL guides. I understand they might be harder to use for a complete newb, but asking doesn't hurt.
Most champions in League of Legends play really straight forward, so generally, your goal when watching streams isn't neccessarily to improve as a certain champ but as a player in general. There's a lot of methods you can use for any kind of champion (why does he push the lane right there? Why doesn't he? Why does he recall in a given situation, why does he leave his lane?). Ask yourself WHY a person's doing what they are doing, and you'll be able to improve quickly.
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Regarding tier 1 and 2 runes:
Tier 1 runes have about 55% of the effectiveness of tier 3 runes, and cost about 10% as much.
In my opinion it doesn't hurt to spend some IP on a single very limited set of tier 1 (and even tier 2) runes such that you have the right number to combine them into tier 3 with no leftovers. Combining 25 of the cheapest t1 runes into a t3 costs 375 IP, which can net you a 410, 800, 1000 or even 2000 IP rune in return (however you can also get a complete piece of crap rune which you will never use...).
When I level up new accounts I buy a single set of runes as I level which are very general use and fairly helpful: AD marks (reds) and mana regen per level seals and glyphs (yellows and blues). The AD makes it a tiny bit easier to last hit, and the mana regen allows you to spam spells more often on new/unfamiliar champs, which helps you learn the champ faster.
Most pros prefer defencive seals and glyphs because they have already perfected mana conservation and skill usage for their champ and instead focus on winning careful trades against their lane opponents. This is generally the best way to build, but first you need to get to know your skills in an out.
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