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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On May 01 2012 04:06 Sufficiency wrote: Question: In normal blind pick, is the order of the team a reflection of each player's ELO? That is, if I am at the bottom, does that mean the game thinks the other 4 players are more skilled than I am? I heard this is the case in draft. Not sure about blind pick though. It's completely random in normal games, draft or blind doesn't matter. They only consistency is that premades <5 people are on top, but their internal order is, again, random. | ||
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Teliko
Ireland1044 Posts
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seRapH
United States9777 Posts
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bleuzky
United States42 Posts
Are there any helpful vids, streams (ones that actually explain game mechanics), or any simple tips out there? | ||
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seRapH
United States9777 Posts
If you're looking for streams pretty much any high elo player will do, though some troll more often than others. If you're actually specializing in a role then picking a stream for that role is definitely a good idea. Other than that just play more, read guides when you have to. Learn from your opponents, don't be afraid to lose games by going out of your comfort zone, and talk to us. Ask questions in liquidparty or this thread or general. Actively seek to be better, and you will. | ||
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Teliko
Ireland1044 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/scarra | ||
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11713 Posts
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lolsil
United States37 Posts
On May 01 2012 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote: It's completely random in normal games, draft or blind doesn't matter. They only consistency is that premades <5 people are on top, but their internal order is, again, random. where you are placed on the team (in draft) doesn't matter in normals, but, there is a hidden normal elo. you can check your estimated hidden elo @ www.lolmatches.com riot has even said that they have a hidden elo system for normals. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On May 02 2012 22:29 lolsil wrote: where you are placed on the team (in draft) doesn't matter in normals, but, there is a hidden normal elo. you can check your estimated hidden elo @ www.lolmatches.com riot has even said that they have a hidden elo system for normals. I know. But the order in the lobby is still random, which was the question, no? | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
what's the general ELO of players that look to be clueless about what's going and never look at the minimap? | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:44 udgnim wrote: I've started playing LoL and just play Intermediate bot games trying out each of the free heroes what's the general ELO of players that look to be clueless about what's going and never look at the minimap? You dont get an Elo until you start ranked at level 30 (150-200 games), so I would hope you have a general idea of whats up by then. There are terrible players at 1600 Elo, but when you get below 1100 people are generally pretty confused. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
So far I have only played solo mid and support (support is pretty easy anyway) but I want to try out some other roles, in particular solo top. I got Rumble as a starting point (because I can reuse most of my AP/HP runes, which are the only ones I got), but I have no idea about how to play solo top in general... such as my role in the game, goals, etc. | ||
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Teliko
Ireland1044 Posts
On May 05 2012 05:31 Sufficiency wrote: Are there any general solo top guide? So far I have only played solo mid and support (support is pretty easy anyway) but I want to try out some other roles, in particular solo top. I got Rumble as a starting point (because I can reuse most of my AP/HP runes, which are the only ones I got), but I have no idea about how to play solo top in general. My guess would be it's similar enough to playing solo mid. Just aim to last hit CS without letting your lane get pushed, or if it gets pushed, coordinate ganks with your jungler. Specific lane guides can vary too much based on your champ, your lane opponent and the two junglers. Just be sure you know where to ward and you're letting the jungler know of any opportunities. Warding SS taken from Two_DoWn's jungle guide. The blue points being where you should focus. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MBmQa.png) | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On May 05 2012 05:44 Teliko wrote: My guess would be it's similar enough to playing solo mid. Just aim to last hit CS without letting your lane get pushed, or if it gets pushed, coordinate ganks with your jungler. Specific lane guides can vary too much based on your champ, your lane opponent and the two junglers. Just be sure you know where to ward and you're letting the jungler know of any opportunities. Warding SS taken from Two_DoWn's jungle guide. The blue points being where you should focus. + Show Spoiler + Thats not necessarily true. It is similar to Solo mid, but very different at the same time. The lane is much longer so you more succeptable to ganks, and in general as a top Champ you are more likely to be Melee. This means the lane snowballs much harder than mid/bot because there is range; bot lane you never want to miss CS unless it means dying to a gank. Sometimes as a top laner it is okay to say "alright, I'm not gonna grab that last hit because if I do it means my lane opponent can poke me for free/engage in a trade that is advantageous because I will take big minion damage." In general, ward farther out so you have more time to run from ganks, last hit well, and win trades against the other top laner. The rest of it is mostly matchup based. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On May 05 2012 05:44 Teliko wrote: My guess would be it's similar enough to playing solo mid. Just aim to last hit CS without letting your lane get pushed, or if it gets pushed, coordinate ganks with your jungler. Specific lane guides can vary too much based on your champ, your lane opponent and the two junglers. Just be sure you know where to ward and you're letting the jungler know of any opportunities. Warding SS taken from Two_DoWn's jungle guide. The blue points being where you should focus. + Show Spoiler + BUt it feels a lot different. (maybe this has to do with Rumble in general) I have much less game presence - since top is rarely visited in early-mid game and it's pretty awkward for me to leave my lane for ganks (I can only leave to gank mid, but usually the jungler will do that a lot better than me - also Rumble's gank is really, really sad). So in case I am winning the lane, and my lane opponent hugs the tower like crazy, I am not sure what I should do (making things worse, as melee AP bruiser I have almost no pushing power against turents). In mid, if I can dominate the lane I can go freely to top or bottom for ganks; on top, as soon as my lane is pushed, there isn't much I can do except backing off to prevent a gank on me. | ||
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Teliko
Ireland1044 Posts
If your solo ganking as rumble might not be that good, you should just focus on CSing. Generally top lane is dependant on the jungler to secure kills, which is why you need to work with him. It can be quite easy to get your opponent out of position if you just let him push his lane and overextend to bait him closer to you, and vice versa you can prevent yourself from making this mistake by keeping the tribush and path to mid lane warded to keep an eye on their jungler. If you're playing at a low level, you can be confident it's unlikely your opponent in lane is warding, so calling on your jungler can be extra helpful and more likely a gank will be secured. Other than that, just keep an eye on him. If he walks out of position for just a few seconds, there's always a chance he's planted a ward somewhere. | ||
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
I am confident in saying that I am no longer a noob at LoL. I have progressed squarely into the 'average player' category. Based on checking the ranked ELO of my opponents every so often, I am somewhere around 1300-1400 ELO. I have a problem now. I am looking to practice builds for higher-level play, but I seem to only do the best when I build specifically to win my lane as hard as I can. If I don't do this, I often lose. This is especially true of top lan. Examples: -always building wriggles on Jax every game no matter what -dying every single teamfight lategame when going pure DPS on Riven -Building Rylai's on AP champs that it's normally terrible on -always going MR glyphs/never going AP/level glyphs on AP mids etc. Should I always build to win my lane? Or should I practice at playing more high-level builds? Another thing. When I first started, I enjoyed practicing last-hitting and getting better at farming. Now, my farming has taken a severe hit. Everyone plays SUPER aggressive: -hardly any supports, almost every game I play bot, the enemy is a kill lane -opponents will ALWAYS favor trading over farming -people will look to zone me out/kill me at level 1 or level 2 -Not always, but in like probably 40%-50% of my games, as soon as 1 or 2 towers go down, the entire enemy team immediately groups up and starts roaming the map for kills. Any time I try to go farm, my team tries to do a 4v5 fight, dies, and yells at me -_- It seems like people only care about kills now. Any tips on practicing, or should I go full balls-out for kills every game? | ||
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Celestia
Mexico376 Posts
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