EPTDefinitely at like level 13 or so Aegis is way better.
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Definitely at like level 13 or so Aegis is way better. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
On February 02 2012 08:40 NeoIllusions wrote: jiji on Ori coming up on CLG stream. not going so well for him vs annie though... | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Was just in a game 57 minutes long. I had highest cs on team with 320, the 2nd highest was 250. Simply unacceptable. Even bad farming from me, and I still somehow out farm everyone else on my team, I feel too many people undervalue split pushing a lot...  | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 02 2012 08:40 overt wrote: At level 18 the active is a 230 damage shield right? Too lazy to do the math to see if the shield can make it better than Aegis but I don't think it would. And Aegis is about 300 gold cheaper. Definitely at like level 13 or so Aegis is way better. I threw together a quick and dirty spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aowpba9laK0vdHBLYzBsZXFCVHdUOE80VDUycWg3eFE The spreadsheet only compares the auras, not the stats the owner gains. Playing around with the numbers, it appears that Locket gives comparable survivability to Aegis. As would be expected, Aegis does better the more health someone has, while Locket does better the more armor/resistance someone has. Anyone who's interested can copy the spreadsheet and play around with the numbers themselves. My take on it is that Aegis is better simply because it provides the owner well rounded stats and doesn't require timing an active to be effective. You can also sit on your HoG longer building an Aegis. I'd probably still build Locket later if the game lasted long enough. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 02 2012 09:03 Seuss wrote: I threw together a quick and dirty spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aowpba9laK0vdHBLYzBsZXFCVHdUOE80VDUycWg3eFE The spreadsheet only compares the auras, not the stats the owner gains. Playing around with the numbers, it appears that Locket gives comparable survivability to Aegis. As would be expected, Aegis does better the more health someone has, while Locket does better the more armor/resistance someone has. Anyone who's interested can copy the spreadsheet and play around with the numbers themselves. My take on it is that Aegis is better simply because it provides the owner well rounded stats and doesn't require timing an active to be effective. You can also sit on your HoG longer building an Aegis. I'd probably still build Locket later if the game lasted long enough. I've figured it out, get 5 players, get 5 aotl and 5 lockets, coordinate locket usage. never take dmg. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On February 02 2012 08:58 wei2coolman wrote: So, I don't get why people don't get more cs.... I'm like a huge huge proponent of farming > killing. Was just in a game 57 minutes long. I had highest cs on team with 320, the 2nd highest was 250. Simply unacceptable. Even bad farming from me, and I still somehow out farm everyone else on my team, I feel too many people undervalue split pushing a lot... The thing is that farming is boring as hell. Of course people rather battle each other to the death in a manly display of power. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On February 02 2012 09:05 overt wrote: The other downside of locket is if it gets hoisted upon the support player as they'll likely be the lowest level on the team and so the shield will be less. Wouldn't it make more sense for a support to just build Aegis and Shurelya's instead of Aegis plus Locket? Especially since Aegis is cheaper. For the aegis to be most effective you want it to be built by midgame. A no cs support can't do that easily, especially if they're investing in gp10. Better for the support to get shurelya's and the jungle/top to get aegis. So in the end, it leaves the support grabbing locket.  | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On February 02 2012 09:05 overt wrote: The other downside of locket is if it gets hoisted upon the support player as they'll likely be the lowest level on the team and so the shield will be less. Wouldn't it make more sense for a support to just build Aegis and Shurelya's instead of Aegis plus Locket? Especially since Aegis is cheaper. I think Philo -> HoG -> Aegis, then upgrade philo -> shurelia's then HoG -> Locket has the "best" flow for a support build. But rarely will the game last long enough for a support to finish 3 major items... And if I may add, the most important stat an item can ever have from a support's perspective is low cost, since you a) have no money and b) need a disproportionate amount of money for wards/pinks/oracles/pots/... So Aegis being cheaper is huge. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On February 02 2012 09:05 overt wrote: The other downside of locket is if it gets hoisted upon the support player as they'll likely be the lowest level on the team and so the shield will be less. Wouldn't it make more sense for a support to just build Aegis and Shurelya's instead of Aegis plus Locket? Especially since Aegis is cheaper. there is no way i'd drop shurelya's for any reason. For me the choice is reverie + aegis or reverie + locket | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5249 Posts
On February 02 2012 09:13 barbsq wrote: there is no way i'd drop shurelya's for any reason. For me the choice is reverie + aegis or reverie + locket agree, but locket looks really really good; running some games now trying it. it reminds me of mek from dota; an incredibly useful utility item to have. a tank/initiator type can take aegis, like amumu. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
You guys remember when I estimated bouncing bomb at 260 + 0.65 from that one time when Phreak hit the golem with it? I think I'm pretty good. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On February 02 2012 09:52 Shikyo wrote: Magic Damage: 75 / 120 / 165 / 210 / 255 (+0.65 per ability power) You guys remember when I estimated bouncing bomb at 260 + 0.65 from that one time when Phreak hit the golem with it? I think I'm pretty good. currently sitting in my math analysis course - try harder to impress me | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On February 02 2012 09:54 0123456789 wrote: LoL is the one game I think that females can be pro at. Low skillcap, and teamwork!!! Perfect for gurls. So sexist! I guess. No, I'm sure someone is offended now! | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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courtpanda
866 Posts
On February 02 2012 09:57 Dandel Ion wrote: So sexist! I guess. No, I'm sure someone is offended now! yay misogynism! | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
that's not even true, everyone knows girls are bad at map awareness | ||
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