[Patch 1.0.0.133: Ziggs] General Discussion - Page 115

On February 09 2012 03:53 sob3k wrote:


Dude, I don't know why this is coming up but fiddle vs LB is an absolutely terrible matchup for fiddle, LB has a silence available at level 2, and her Q is on less than half of Fiddle's E cooldown. You will be harassed out of lane as fiddle incredibly fast and you have absolutely no kill potential on leblanc, as she can dash out of drain/ult, or dash ontop of you to silence and deal huge damage and then revert out. Once LB gets chains she can also totally fuck you in another way if you try to drain, if you drain behind minions to block the chain she will QW onto you and silence plus push the wave with the AOE, and if you do it away from the minons she will QE and then shit all over you during stun.

Its among the easiest mid matchups for LB that exists.

On February 09 2012 04:23 SnK-Arcbound wrote:

Someone will just go top with boots since it's the normal start, and shit on you at level 1 with ignite. And you'll never come back unless you get a jungler to shit on your lane.

On February 08 2012 23:52 57 Corvette wrote:
Found this program on reddit, lets you make a personalised champion background, no longer will I need to use premade backgrounds with Champions I don't use.

http://lolwallpaper.betacero.com/

Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/pg8qz/league_of_legends_online_wallpaper_editor_read/

This is more of a, "How can I actually play Fiddle in today's meta?" more than, "This is how you wreck at 2000 ELO with Fiddle!" idea.

On February 09 2012 01:53 Requizen wrote:
The more I play different jungle champs in solo queue, the more apparent it becomes as to which ones require a good team and which ones do not.

Udyr needs a good team. Even building tanky as hell and getting good ganks, once it rolls into teamfight time, if you don't have a competent team with you, you're dead. With a good team, he's a great damage and disruption tanky dps, but solo queueing rarely gives that as an option.

Gangplank, on the other hand, can carry the hell out of games from the jungle even if your team is bad. After taking T_D's advice from the GP thread and just ignoring lanes unless there's an easy gank, all I did was farm with extra Q gold, supported with my ult, and carried as Atmogplank 9 times out of 10.

Shyvana can't carry by herself. She can shut the enemy jungler down, turning the game into a 5v4, but she doesn't really have the straight up strength to carry a game past the midgame. She does well with a team that can take advantage of her ult's disruption and AoE damage, but again: solo queue.

Skarner can. His innate strength makes him a dangerous 1v1er, invader, and ganker, and that transitions really well into the midgame with nothing but tanky items and a Triforce (and maybe Gunblade for the lulz). Flash ulting an enemy is so effective that even solo queue bads will take advantage of it and press the win from there.

Anyway, just jungled a lot the past couple days and was bored. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am.

On February 09 2012 05:15 JackDino wrote:
Does anyone jungle cho? He clears like, pretty damn fast with that E and has good ganks, good sustain with passive.

On February 09 2012 01:53 Requizen wrote:
The more I play different jungle champs in solo queue, the more apparent it becomes as to which ones require a good team and which ones do not.

Udyr needs a good team. Even building tanky as hell and getting good ganks, once it rolls into teamfight time, if you don't have a competent team with you, you're dead. With a good team, he's a great damage and disruption tanky dps, but solo queueing rarely gives that as an option.

Gangplank, on the other hand, can carry the hell out of games from the jungle even if your team is bad. After taking T_D's advice from the GP thread and just ignoring lanes unless there's an easy gank, all I did was farm with extra Q gold, supported with my ult, and carried as Atmogplank 9 times out of 10.

Shyvana can't carry by herself. She can shut the enemy jungler down, turning the game into a 5v4, but she doesn't really have the straight up strength to carry a game past the midgame. She does well with a team that can take advantage of her ult's disruption and AoE damage, but again: solo queue.

Skarner can. His innate strength makes him a dangerous 1v1er, invader, and ganker, and that transitions really well into the midgame with nothing but tanky items and a Triforce (and maybe Gunblade for the lulz). Flash ulting an enemy is so effective that even solo queue bads will take advantage of it and press the win from there.

Anyway, just jungled a lot the past couple days and was bored. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am.

On February 09 2012 04:29 Seuss wrote:


I think LeBlanc came up because I specifically mentioned her on the subject of pushing power. Bwaaa was basically stating "If you put some levels in E Fiddlesticks is slightly better at pushing than LeBlanc, meaningless as that may be".

In other news, Xypherous made 68 semi-cryptic posts about the upcoming champion. Based on his code-name (Nautilus) we may have an Octodad champion.

http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/28066/?p=2

On February 09 2012 05:22 Two_DoWn wrote:
I know SV likes it a lot. Yet to see him actually play a lot of it thou.

On February 09 2012 05:30 Two_DoWn wrote:

The key on Shyvana and Udyr is to jungle so stupidly fast that you buy defensive items faster than the enemy can buy offensive items. M5 has shown that when shyv hits a certain point, its pretty much an auto loss because you just cant kill her. Its harder to hit that point in the jungle, but not impossible.

Basically you just want to always be clearing camps and turning that gold into defense. If you can hit midgame with a sizable enough pool of resists and health you should be able to carry on them. Basically you just want to ult/bear in, then stand around hitting shit while your team slowly realizes that they should be fighting.

On February 09 2012 05:30 Two_DoWn wrote:

The key on Shyvana and Udyr is to jungle so stupidly fast that you buy defensive items faster than the enemy can buy offensive items. M5 has shown that when shyv hits a certain point, its pretty much an auto loss because you just cant kill her. Its harder to hit that point in the jungle, but not impossible.

Basically you just want to always be clearing camps and turning that gold into defense. If you can hit midgame with a sizable enough pool of resists and health you should be able to carry on them. Basically you just want to ult/bear in, then stand around hitting shit while your team slowly realizes that they should be fighting.

On February 09 2012 05:49 broz0rs wrote:


so basically, jungle so fast you get more gold in the jungle than in lane? o_O

On February 09 2012 01:33 Craton wrote:

I guess you can stop spamming me with 5 invites to a normal per day now.

More like people whining that their teammates suck and being insufferable pricks. Of the hundreds of premade games I've done, not one made from LP was ever an enjoyable experience.