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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 08 2012 18:16 GMT
#2261
Hit 0 three times instead of two haha
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 18:36:11
February 08 2012 18:16 GMT
#2262
I'm still laughing at TRM's word doc:

house on fire
afk
fucking dyrus

Also I was saying maybe he meant to punch in 4 min "4-0-0" and instead pressed "4-0-0-0" = 40 min unknowingly.

Edit: Ninja'd!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 08 2012 18:17 GMT
#2263
why wouldn't he shower and then microwave if it's only 4 minutes wtf?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 08 2012 18:19 GMT
#2264
Time management optimizations bro.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 08 2012 18:20 GMT
#2265
On February 09 2012 03:17 Slayer91 wrote:
why wouldn't he shower and then microwave if it's only 4 minutes wtf?


You mean you take showers that are longer than 4 minutes?
What a woman...

...

>_>;;
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 08 2012 18:21 GMT
#2266
On February 09 2012 03:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 03:17 Slayer91 wrote:
why wouldn't he shower and then microwave if it's only 4 minutes wtf?


You mean you take showers that are longer than 4 minutes?
What a woman...

...

>_>;;


If his shower was only 4 minutes he wouldn't burn the house down.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 18:24:59
February 08 2012 18:22 GMT
#2267
Me thinks Dyrus is just trolling the entire TSM house.

Hope nothing's been seriously damaged >:
Bronze player stuck in platinum
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 08 2012 18:25 GMT
#2268
Hilarious level 1 team fight for CLGeu.

Froggen burns Flash because he's out of position? npnp, we'll take 3-0 start.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 08 2012 18:28 GMT
#2269
On February 09 2012 03:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hilarious level 1 team fight for CLGeu.

Froggen burns Flash because he's out of position? npnp, we'll take 3-0 start.

You sure that wasnt dyrus burning things?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 18:34:21
February 08 2012 18:32 GMT
#2270
On February 09 2012 03:16 mordek wrote:
I'm still laughting at TRM's word doc:

house on fire
afk
fucking dyrus

Also I was saying maybe he meant to punch in 4 min "4-0-0" and instead pressed "4-0-0-0" = 40 min unknowingly.

Edit: Ninja'd!

Apparently they are really smart in the TSM house because it's the third time someone tried to burn everything.

"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 08 2012 18:36 GMT
#2271
I don't watch much of Wickd's Irelia, but damn his Wukong is stronk.
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-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 18:38:34
February 08 2012 18:38 GMT
#2272
On February 09 2012 03:32 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 03:16 mordek wrote:
I'm still laughting at TRM's word doc:

house on fire
afk
fucking dyrus

Also I was saying maybe he meant to punch in 4 min "4-0-0" and instead pressed "4-0-0-0" = 40 min unknowingly.

Edit: Ninja'd!

Apparently they are really smart in the TSM house because it's the third time someone tried to burn everything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=29EMxnfM-Fg

Cops must be really pissed off of these children.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 08 2012 18:39 GMT
#2273
Froggen with the team fight winning Dark Binding. ;o
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Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 18:44:28
February 08 2012 18:43 GMT
#2274
On February 09 2012 03:32 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 03:16 mordek wrote:
I'm still laughting at TRM's word doc:

house on fire
afk
fucking dyrus

Also I was saying maybe he meant to punch in 4 min "4-0-0" and instead pressed "4-0-0-0" = 40 min unknowingly.

Edit: Ninja'd!

Apparently they are really smart in the TSM house because it's the third time someone tried to burn everything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=29EMxnfM-Fg

Where are they staying in the meantime?

On February 09 2012 03:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't watch much of Wickd's Irelia, but damn his Wukong is stronk.

He seems to like building FM on every champ, be it Irelia, Riven, Wukong, etc xP
Power-tripping mod for Trump's stream
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
February 08 2012 18:44 GMT
#2275
Back to middle fiddle, he actually has a really nice FB combo at lvl 3 maxing EWQ and harassing non stop with E and then flash, fear, drain, ignite, and then e to finish them off. As for the problem of having no harass and lane pushing power try lvling E for at least 3 levels. I know this gimps your mid game and you are still very drawish but E is almost guaranteed harass early on and it can zone player who underestimate you.

TLDR: If you max E for a few lvls you can zone some champions and out push LB but you are still very weak compared to more standard AP mids.

This was written at 5 am so I have no idea what I just said.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
February 08 2012 18:45 GMT
#2276
TSM is evacuting the house because of the fumes from the burnt plastic, but this isn't the first time they've burnt plastic as their vlog says. They're just going to evacuate while they can air out the house then they'll probably go back inside.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
February 08 2012 18:48 GMT
#2277
Lol that house burning is hilarious. Shame though : /
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 08 2012 18:53 GMT
#2278
On February 09 2012 03:44 Bwaaaa wrote:
Back to middle fiddle, he actually has a really nice FB combo at lvl 3 maxing EWQ and harassing non stop with E and then flash, fear, drain, ignite, and then e to finish them off. As for the problem of having no harass and lane pushing power try lvling E for at least 3 levels. I know this gimps your mid game and you are still very drawish but E is almost guaranteed harass early on and it can zone player who underestimate you.

TLDR: If you max E for a few lvls you can zone some champions and out push LB but you are still very weak compared to more standard AP mids.

This was written at 5 am so I have no idea what I just said.


Dude, I don't know why this is coming up but fiddle vs LB is an absolutely terrible matchup for fiddle, LB has a silence available at level 2, and her Q is on less than half of Fiddle's E cooldown. You will be harassed out of lane as fiddle incredibly fast and you have absolutely no kill potential on leblanc, as she can dash out of drain/ult, or dash ontop of you to silence and deal huge damage and then revert out. Once LB gets chains she can also totally fuck you in another way if you try to drain, if you drain behind minions to block the chain she will QW onto you and silence plus push the wave with the AOE, and if you do it away from the minons she will QE and then shit all over you during stun.

Its among the easiest mid matchups for LB that exists.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 08 2012 19:12 GMT
#2279
Fiddle would survive better top lane where he can put his sustain to use. As long as you build mana regen on him (i.e. doran's or even philo), you will be able to sustain with other low-harass champions and scale fairly well into the midgame. However, once you get to that point, you have to get much more active than your average top lane as you get outscaled by a lot of them come lategame. That being said, Fiddle gives your team amazing dragon/baron control, and a great ult to turn a losing game into a winning one.

As for builds, I would imagine boots+3 -> cata -> sorcs -> RoA -> WotA -> Dcap - Zhonya's -> Abyssal

or

2-3 Doran's + sorcs -> Rylai's -> WotA -> Dcap -> Zhonya's -> Abyssal

Basically health item(s) + Spell vamp -> Damage -> Resists. Zhonya's and Abyssal are both great on Fiddle late game because of his ult and passive, respectively. Health and Spell Vamp make him a difficult target to kill during his drain channel. Dcap because, well, Dcap. Fairly straightforward.

As for skill order, go EWWQW R>W>Q>E. Lvl 1 E harass is boss.
Writer@WriterYamato
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
February 08 2012 19:23 GMT
#2280
On February 09 2012 04:12 yamato77 wrote:
Fiddle would survive better top lane where he can put his sustain to use. As long as you build mana regen on him (i.e. doran's or even philo), you will be able to sustain with other low-harass champions and scale fairly well into the midgame. However, once you get to that point, you have to get much more active than your average top lane as you get outscaled by a lot of them come lategame. That being said, Fiddle gives your team amazing dragon/baron control, and a great ult to turn a losing game into a winning one.

As for builds, I would imagine boots+3 -> cata -> sorcs -> RoA -> WotA -> Dcap - Zhonya's -> Abyssal

or

2-3 Doran's + sorcs -> Rylai's -> WotA -> Dcap -> Zhonya's -> Abyssal

Basically health item(s) + Spell vamp -> Damage -> Resists. Zhonya's and Abyssal are both great on Fiddle late game because of his ult and passive, respectively. Health and Spell Vamp make him a difficult target to kill during his drain channel. Dcap because, well, Dcap. Fairly straightforward.

As for skill order, go EWWQW R>W>Q>E. Lvl 1 E harass is boss.

Someone will just go top with boots since it's the normal start, and shit on you at level 1 with ignite. And you'll never come back unless you get a jungler to shit on your lane.
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