• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:21
CEST 15:21
KST 22:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 236ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 AquaTrail-(I've Tested) My 90 Day Honest Experienc https://www.facebook.com/Power.Pro.Genius.USD/ Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9254 users

[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 151

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 149 150 151 152 153 193 Next
Public Service Announcement
Use the Champion threads whenever appropriate.
Don't use General Discussion simply out of ease.
=====
If you want to whine about server lag, use the QQ thread. We all suffer alike when Riot servers kaput. No need to make a post about it in GD.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 15:31:25
January 28 2012 15:22 GMT
#3001
On January 29 2012 00:10 Alaric wrote:
I don't get why somebody said "Jax is now a god against AP" just because he got some AoE damage reduction. When casting a 13s cd spell (if maxed fist), he'll reduce incoming AoE damage by an unknown amount/% for 2 seconds. How would that make Brand or Cass useless against him (amongst quoted champs)?

We don't even have the numbers, seems like a knee jerk reaction to me.

Unless the damage reduction is ridiculous, it won't be nearly as good as old Jax's combination of free HP + free MR against AP. I didn't see the post talking about Brand or Cass but it's a pretty odd statement (especially Cass, wtf)

edit: I actually used Cass with exhaust as a counterpick for old Jax
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
January 28 2012 15:36 GMT
#3002
Old Jax shat on people like Karthus, but against more serious damage AP picks like Brand or Cass he was plain useless.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 28 2012 15:46 GMT
#3003
what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?

irelia and akali come to mind first
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 28 2012 15:58 GMT
#3004
On January 29 2012 00:46 emucxg wrote:
what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?

irelia and akali come to mind first


Rumble
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 16:01:45
January 28 2012 16:00 GMT
#3005
On January 28 2012 23:25 LaNague wrote:
i am pretty sure hotshot doesnt have a sponsor for clg because he wants to build up his own "empire".
And it looks he is pretty successfull with it, especially with his clg streaming brand that he gives out to people and takes some % of the admoney.

You know those logos that have been on their site and all their streams for months aren't just there 'cause they're pretty.

He takes .5% (1/200th) of ad revenue from streams part of clgame on Own3D.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 28 2012 16:03 GMT
#3006
On January 29 2012 00:46 emucxg wrote:
what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?

irelia and akali come to mind first


Most bruiser can
Other that ain't really bruiser :
Poppy
Tryn
AD Sion
etc
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 28 2012 16:03 GMT
#3007
On January 29 2012 00:46 emucxg wrote:
what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?

irelia and akali come to mind first

If you get fed enough and your enemies suck: Everyone.
If your enemies didn't stay at lvl 7 until you hit 18: Nobody.

Generally, to 1v5 you need to either be able to kill people without them being able to touch you, which requires high range and mobility, or you need to be so tanky and have so much regen/healing/shield that your enemies just can't kill you.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
January 28 2012 16:15 GMT
#3008
you don't run into the middle of 5 people and kill them all, but most assassins can just keep picking people off in 1v2 or 1v1 until they kill the entire team in rapid succession
twitch.tv/cratonz
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 28 2012 16:16 GMT
#3009
On January 29 2012 00:46 emucxg wrote:
what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?

irelia and akali come to mind first


A freefarmed Nasus with early game kills is deadly
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 28 2012 16:22 GMT
#3010
I think Karth is the best 1v5. I have literally had games where I got bored cuz I had 5 items, ran into the enemy team, then just killed all of them (or to be more accurate, dropped them all to 100 health and let someone else get a penta kill cuz i didnt hit r in time. True fax)
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 28 2012 16:25 GMT
#3011
lategame warwick is scary yo. Most of the time get pentas every time.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 28 2012 16:26 GMT
#3012
ya i have like 16 pentas with warwick he is da best champion except his early game and mid game are also awsum too i been tellin u for years noobs
Brees on in
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 28 2012 17:09 GMT
#3013
Kayle?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
January 28 2012 17:15 GMT
#3014
is it always worth it to double up on wota even if one of your ap's doesnt necesarily benefit from wota nearly as much as some other champions? I was just in a game where our rumble was raging because I didnt think I should get wota as TF. What do you guys think?
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 28 2012 17:20 GMT
#3015
On January 29 2012 01:22 Two_DoWn wrote:
I think Karth is the best 1v5. I have literally had games where I got bored cuz I had 5 items, ran into the enemy team, then just killed all of them (or to be more accurate, dropped them all to 100 health and let someone else get a penta kill cuz i didnt hit r in time. True fax)


Yah I agree- I mean you wont penta yourself, but in terms of your team sucks and you need to do all the damage, you can get like 1000 ap and just stand there and do gay damage for a while
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
January 28 2012 17:21 GMT
#3016
On January 29 2012 02:15 Hakker wrote:
is it always worth it to double up on wota even if one of your ap's doesnt necesarily benefit from wota nearly as much as some other champions? I was just in a game where our rumble was raging because I didnt think I should get wota as TF. What do you guys think?


i would get it if he was carrying, you were sucking balls, or you are getting in long poke siege battles and losing them. other wise no.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 28 2012 17:23 GMT
#3017
Eh, WOTA is kind of the godly item for APs atm. Its basically the only sustain item you can get, and it helps all ability dependent champions to some extent. Also its pretty cheap for the AP and the aura it gives. So I guess you can build it on most APs.

I understand for TF you want deathcap and lichbane asap, and then you probably want to build some survivabilty so its not as high of a priority on your list as some other champions, more of a luxury item.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 28 2012 18:03 GMT
#3018
I tell my team when I plan on getting an early WotA (not necessarily rushing it), especially when the teamcomp calls for it (Viktor with jungling Fiddle, Swain with Kennen mid, etc.) but I wouldn't get an early WotA on Morgana just to accomodate my top an additional +25% spellvamp. Want mah RoA/Zhonya. Except if he's carrying me because I failed, like jadoth says.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 18:28:41
January 28 2012 18:25 GMT
#3019
On January 29 2012 02:15 Hakker wrote:
is it always worth it to double up on wota even if one of your ap's doesnt necesarily benefit from wota nearly as much as some other champions? I was just in a game where our rumble was raging because I didnt think I should get wota as TF. What do you guys think?


TF, possibly but I would never be raging in that case and it's often I skip out on WOTA myself. In this case I'd say it is possibly not worth it and he was at fault, in teamfights though with his ulti and stuff however it is very beneficial but then I think you need another char which benefits it as well, ie. karthus, cass, morgana, kennen, brand. Generally people with sick burst ultis because you will do sick sick dmg and sustain almost any amount of focus.

Rumble 1v5? No way, he can barely 1v2 even if fed lategame =) his ult though is the godly part and then for the whole team.

Btw, a fun combo to try for those who wants to mess around, rumble morgana bot. Get blue buff right away for morgana and both rush WOTA. There is no lane which rapes as hard as that ever from lvl 4 onward, you can basically 2v4 when you both have wota.

Lastly, the talk about proffessionalism in LOL. We need to consider that all or almost all starcraft 2 players are old brood war players which means they are generally alot older and more mature as dota is a much newer concept with a new playerbase whereas sc2 is mostly old. It is a bit sad, but I must admit I love the drama in LOL it's fun!
Meh
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
January 28 2012 18:37 GMT
#3020
On January 29 2012 02:15 Hakker wrote:
is it always worth it to double up on wota even if one of your ap's doesnt necesarily benefit from wota nearly as much as some other champions? I was just in a game where our rumble was raging because I didnt think I should get wota as TF. What do you guys think?

You don't go double wota for the sake of going double wota. You get it because it's good for your team. If it's suboptimal, you don't get it. This is true for every item.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Prev 1 149 150 151 152 153 193 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SC Evo League
12:00
SEL S3 Ladder Invitational
ByuN vs Classic
Cure vs Solar
IntoTheiNu 1049
LiquipediaDiscussion
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #147
CranKy Ducklings106
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 829
Rex 153
MindelVK 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25183
Bisu 2243
Shuttle 1040
Hyuk 925
Mini 828
Horang2 630
Jaedong 509
BeSt 419
Stork 189
Last 165
[ Show more ]
Soma 149
ggaemo 130
Dewaltoss 114
Larva 91
soO 47
sorry 30
ToSsGirL 29
sSak 19
Sexy 17
IntoTheRainbow 14
GoRush 14
Yoon 11
Icarus 6
Rock 5
Dota 2
Gorgc8701
Dendi769
XaKoH 490
XcaliburYe139
Counter-Strike
zeus273
Other Games
gofns15268
FrodaN3707
singsing2171
DeMusliM577
Lowko431
Pyrionflax287
KnowMe114
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick28380
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP18
• Response 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
IPSL
2h 40m
Dragon vs Ret
Patches Events
2h 40m
RSL Revival
19h 40m
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
20h 40m
IPSL
1d 2h
Bonyth vs Hawk
GSL
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.