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On January 29 2012 00:10 Alaric wrote:
I don't get why somebody said "Jax is now a god against AP" just because he got some AoE damage reduction. When casting a 13s cd spell (if maxed fist), he'll reduce incoming AoE damage by an unknown amount/% for 2 seconds. How would that make Brand or Cass useless against him (amongst quoted champs)?
We don't even have the numbers, seems like a knee jerk reaction to me.
Unless the damage reduction is ridiculous, it won't be nearly as good as old Jax's combination of free HP + free MR against AP. I didn't see the post talking about Brand or Cass but it's a pretty odd statement (especially Cass, wtf)
edit: I actually used Cass with exhaust as a counterpick for old Jax
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
Old Jax shat on people like Karthus, but against more serious damage AP picks like Brand or Cass he was plain useless.
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what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?
irelia and akali come to mind first
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On January 29 2012 00:46 emucxg wrote:
what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?
irelia and akali come to mind first
Rumble
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On January 28 2012 23:25 LaNague wrote:
i am pretty sure hotshot doesnt have a sponsor for clg because he wants to build up his own "empire".
And it looks he is pretty successfull with it, especially with his clg streaming brand that he gives out to people and takes some % of the admoney.
You know those logos that have been on their site and all their streams for months aren't just there 'cause they're pretty.
He takes .5% (1/200th) of ad revenue from streams part of clgame on Own3D.
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On January 29 2012 00:46 emucxg wrote:
what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?
irelia and akali come to mind first
Most bruiser can
Other that ain't really bruiser :
Poppy
Tryn
AD Sion
etc
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On January 29 2012 00:46 emucxg wrote:
what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?
irelia and akali come to mind first
If you get fed enough and your enemies suck: Everyone.
If your enemies didn't stay at lvl 7 until you hit 18: Nobody.
Generally, to 1v5 you need to either be able to kill people without them being able to touch you, which requires high range and mobility, or you need to be so tanky and have so much regen/healing/shield that your enemies just can't kill you.
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you don't run into the middle of 5 people and kill them all, but most assassins can just keep picking people off in 1v2 or 1v1 until they kill the entire team in rapid succession
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On January 29 2012 00:46 emucxg wrote:
what champion can 1v5 late game when he got fed?
irelia and akali come to mind first
A freefarmed Nasus with early game kills is deadly
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I think Karth is the best 1v5. I have literally had games where I got bored cuz I had 5 items, ran into the enemy team, then just killed all of them (or to be more accurate, dropped them all to 100 health and let someone else get a penta kill cuz i didnt hit r in time. True fax)
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lategame warwick is scary yo. Most of the time get pentas every time.
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Marshall Islands3404 Posts
ya i have like 16 pentas with warwick he is da best champion except his early game and mid game are also awsum too i been tellin u for years noobs
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is it always worth it to double up on wota even if one of your ap's doesnt necesarily benefit from wota nearly as much as some other champions? I was just in a game where our rumble was raging because I didnt think I should get wota as TF. What do you guys think?
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On January 29 2012 01:22 Two_DoWn wrote:
I think Karth is the best 1v5. I have literally had games where I got bored cuz I had 5 items, ran into the enemy team, then just killed all of them (or to be more accurate, dropped them all to 100 health and let someone else get a penta kill cuz i didnt hit r in time. True fax)
Yah I agree- I mean you wont penta yourself, but in terms of your team sucks and you need to do all the damage, you can get like 1000 ap and just stand there and do gay damage for a while
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On January 29 2012 02:15 Hakker wrote:
is it always worth it to double up on wota even if one of your ap's doesnt necesarily benefit from wota nearly as much as some other champions? I was just in a game where our rumble was raging because I didnt think I should get wota as TF. What do you guys think?
i would get it if he was carrying, you were sucking balls, or you are getting in long poke siege battles and losing them. other wise no.
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Eh, WOTA is kind of the godly item for APs atm. Its basically the only sustain item you can get, and it helps all ability dependent champions to some extent. Also its pretty cheap for the AP and the aura it gives. So I guess you can build it on most APs.
I understand for TF you want deathcap and lichbane asap, and then you probably want to build some survivabilty so its not as high of a priority on your list as some other champions, more of a luxury item.
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I tell my team when I plan on getting an early WotA (not necessarily rushing it), especially when the teamcomp calls for it (Viktor with jungling Fiddle, Swain with Kennen mid, etc.) but I wouldn't get an early WotA on Morgana just to accomodate my top an additional +25% spellvamp. Want mah RoA/Zhonya. Except if he's carrying me because I failed, like jadoth says.
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On January 29 2012 02:15 Hakker wrote:
is it always worth it to double up on wota even if one of your ap's doesnt necesarily benefit from wota nearly as much as some other champions? I was just in a game where our rumble was raging because I didnt think I should get wota as TF. What do you guys think?
TF, possibly but I would never be raging in that case and it's often I skip out on WOTA myself. In this case I'd say it is possibly not worth it and he was at fault, in teamfights though with his ulti and stuff however it is very beneficial but then I think you need another char which benefits it as well, ie. karthus, cass, morgana, kennen, brand. Generally people with sick burst ultis because you will do sick sick dmg and sustain almost any amount of focus.
Rumble 1v5? No way, he can barely 1v2 even if fed lategame =) his ult though is the godly part and then for the whole team.
Btw, a fun combo to try for those who wants to mess around, rumble morgana bot. Get blue buff right away for morgana and both rush WOTA. There is no lane which rapes as hard as that ever from lvl 4 onward, you can basically 2v4 when you both have wota.
Lastly, the talk about proffessionalism in LOL. We need to consider that all or almost all starcraft 2 players are old brood war players which means they are generally alot older and more mature as dota is a much newer concept with a new playerbase whereas sc2 is mostly old. It is a bit sad, but I must admit I love the drama in LOL it's fun!
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On January 29 2012 02:15 Hakker wrote:
is it always worth it to double up on wota even if one of your ap's doesnt necesarily benefit from wota nearly as much as some other champions? I was just in a game where our rumble was raging because I didnt think I should get wota as TF. What do you guys think?
You don't go double wota for the sake of going double wota. You get it because it's good for your team. If it's suboptimal, you don't get it. This is true for every item.
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