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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 01 2012 06:07 GMT
#521
On January 01 2012 10:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 09:54 r.Evo wrote:
On January 01 2012 08:09 Ryuu314 wrote:
well cleanse used to be basically what qss is today and qss can remove karthus ult afaik so...


Wait what. Are you sure about this? I once had an entire team build QSS against our fed Karthus and I recall reading up if that really worked and finding out it didn't. =P

hmm no clue tbh. i'll have to test it.


i'm like 99% sure that cleanse doesn't/didnt, and was something i tried soon after starting this game

i can't say i actually tried it with qss, but i doubt it works there either
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 01 2012 06:15 GMT
#522
So, guy keeps saying in champ select that he will troll, picks eve, we invade on his whim, we lose 3 people to 0 on the first fight, guy goes afk for the rest of the game. Then we win 50 mins later. Feels so good.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 01 2012 06:25 GMT
#523
On January 01 2012 15:07 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 10:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 01 2012 09:54 r.Evo wrote:
On January 01 2012 08:09 Ryuu314 wrote:
well cleanse used to be basically what qss is today and qss can remove karthus ult afaik so...


Wait what. Are you sure about this? I once had an entire team build QSS against our fed Karthus and I recall reading up if that really worked and finding out it didn't. =P

hmm no clue tbh. i'll have to test it.


i'm like 99% sure that cleanse doesn't/didnt, and was something i tried soon after starting this game

i can't say i actually tried it with qss, but i doubt it works there either

Doesn't work on Karth Ult. Nothing does but dodging abilities like alpha strike.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Quicksilver_Sash
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
January 01 2012 06:25 GMT
#524
Why are you such an angry guy Cloud? LoL cannot be any worse than your fear of Gypsies.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 01 2012 06:27 GMT
#525
On January 01 2012 15:15 Cloud wrote:
So, guy keeps saying in champ select that he will troll, picks eve, we invade on his whim, we lose 3 people to 0 on the first fight, guy goes afk for the rest of the game. Then we win 50 mins later. Feels so good.



I wish there was a way to prevent dooshes from getting IP if they leave and you win anyway
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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
January 01 2012 06:46 GMT
#526
Happy new year to all the awesome members of the TL community. May this new year be prosperous and fulfilling for you all.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 01 2012 06:49 GMT
#527
Stuck at home with the New Year's flu :/. Happy New Year, everybody.
On January 01 2012 06:21 spinesheath wrote:
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On January 01 2012 06:08 starfries wrote:
On January 01 2012 05:13 spinesheath wrote:
A couple of runepages I would consider on Janna depending on the matchup, off the top of my head:
AR AR MR AR
AR AR MR GP10
MR AR MR MR
MR AR MR GP10
APen AR MR AD
APen AR MR AR
APen AR MR MSpd
MPen AR MR AP
In 99% of the cases: No MP5, no MR/L, no AP/L.

Is that last page for AP mid Janna? O_o
I remember on one stream Doublelift and Chauster (I think) were saying that AP Janna was actually pretty decent.

And what do you think of flat HP quints?
edit: or even HP regen

Nope, all pure support Janna. If you go for that last page, you better max W though, as you should anyways unless you are forced to do something else.

I always maxed shield but I don't really know what I'm doing on Janna lol
What's the idea here? Do you just keep tossing Ws at them to harass? Is it better than shielding your carry and letting them take shots?
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
January 01 2012 06:50 GMT
#528
On January 01 2012 15:27 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 15:15 Cloud wrote:
So, guy keeps saying in champ select that he will troll, picks eve, we invade on his whim, we lose 3 people to 0 on the first fight, guy goes afk for the rest of the game. Then we win 50 mins later. Feels so good.



I wish there was a way to prevent dooshes from getting IP if they leave and you win anyway

You know that red LEAVER designation at the end of games?

Yep.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 07:20:17
January 01 2012 07:16 GMT
#529
Trying my best to enjoy this free to play game while spendng zero dollars. For example I played Nasus top vs Olaf, wasn't pretty got destroyed. So I think hmmm who would counter really difficult melee champs, don't feel like getting Nidalee, I've seen Rumble and Kennen a lot top I want to try that. Rumble 4800 and Kennen 6300, still haven't bought a 3k champ yet. Similar problems when considering jungling and also when considering optimizing certain roles with runes.

I get this is how they get you to buy things with RP though. Just got make sure I get that first win of the day bonus. Though am I right in thinking that Olaf shits on melee top champs, but gets countered by anyone who can kite him?
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
January 01 2012 07:33 GMT
#530
On January 01 2012 16:16 BlackMagister wrote:
Trying my best to enjoy this free to play game while spendng zero dollars. For example I played Nasus top vs Olaf, wasn't pretty got destroyed. So I think hmmm who would counter really difficult melee champs, don't feel like getting Nidalee, I've seen Rumble and Kennen a lot top I want to try that. Rumble 4800 and Kennen 6300, still haven't bought a 3k champ yet. Similar problems when considering jungling and also when considering optimizing certain roles with runes.

I get this is how they get you to buy things with RP though. Just got make sure I get that first win of the day bonus. Though am I right in thinking that Olaf shits on melee top champs, but gets countered by anyone who can kite him?

More or less. And if you want a champ that does really well against difficult melee top champs try ryze, only 450 IP. You have to be careful of ganks but with his snare Olaf/Trynd/etc can't really touch him.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 07:51:35
January 01 2012 07:44 GMT
#531
Yeah I suppose Ryze would be a good counter pick assuming I pick after the enemy top lane. As wouldn't Ryze would lose to someone that has good sustain top, but since I'm still unranked I'm usually last pick or close to it in normals.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 01 2012 07:45 GMT
#532
On January 01 2012 16:16 BlackMagister wrote:
Trying my best to enjoy this free to play game while spendng zero dollars. For example I played Nasus top vs Olaf, wasn't pretty got destroyed. So I think hmmm who would counter really difficult melee champs, don't feel like getting Nidalee, I've seen Rumble and Kennen a lot top I want to try that. Rumble 4800 and Kennen 6300, still haven't bought a 3k champ yet. Similar problems when considering jungling and also when considering optimizing certain roles with runes.

I get this is how they get you to buy things with RP though. Just got make sure I get that first win of the day bonus. Though am I right in thinking that Olaf shits on melee top champs, but gets countered by anyone who can kite him?


You can get by fine without spending money, it just takes more time. The only time I've bought RP was for the rune page bundle, and that's it. Just get yourself all the 450s and then start to make a list of the more expensive champions that you really want. There are plenty of strong 1300s and 3150s.
I am the Town Medic.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 07:52:18
January 01 2012 07:49 GMT
#533
Wouldn't Olaf be like the only melee champion that can touch Ryze? His true damage and ult are pretty much perfect counters. I guess it depends on how hard Ryze poops on him in lane early on, although I haven't played the matchup myself.

also there are people that get to high Elo despite only being able to play a few champions, so you don't really need that big of a repertoire.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 01 2012 07:53 GMT
#534
On January 01 2012 16:16 BlackMagister wrote:
Trying my best to enjoy this free to play game while spendng zero dollars. For example I played Nasus top vs Olaf, wasn't pretty got destroyed. So I think hmmm who would counter really difficult melee champs, don't feel like getting Nidalee, I've seen Rumble and Kennen a lot top I want to try that. Rumble 4800 and Kennen 6300, still haven't bought a 3k champ yet. Similar problems when considering jungling and also when considering optimizing certain roles with runes.

I get this is how they get you to buy things with RP though. Just got make sure I get that first win of the day bonus. Though am I right in thinking that Olaf shits on melee top champs, but gets countered by anyone who can kite him?


Swain. He's 6300 so if price is an issue then maybe he's not in the ball park. But, think about this, Kennen is totally fotm right now and might very well be nerfed in a future patch. Rumble is stupid strong and gets run in tournaments a lot so he'll probably get fotm if he isn't already.

Fuckin' no one plays Swain cause they're dumb. He's the answer to virtually every melee that goes top and he can hold his own against the regular casters too if you're forced to mid. So, yeah, pros to play Swain include that he's not very popular so you can be all hipster if he gets fotm status, due to his lack of popularity it's unlikely he'll be nerfed anytime soon, you shit on melees so hard that the only reason you should ever lose lane is if you fuck up, his team fighting is really strong as he fills the role of both an AP carry and a bruiser, and finally he has birds that shoot lasers.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
January 01 2012 08:23 GMT
#535
Olaf is actually a strong pick for top. Its just that his ability to team fight against an entire team is somewhat weak because he has no gap closers or anything close to one.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 09:00:18
January 01 2012 08:53 GMT
#536
I really hope all you junglers call out timings on Drag/Baron at least. Would be nice to time their blue as well, but I don't do that myself, as its a bit harder to keep track of.

Seriously, got my team 2 or 3 drags because of the timing. Waited about 2 seconds on the last attempt and it spawned.

So good for team if you can remember the timing.
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icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
January 01 2012 09:15 GMT
#537
On January 01 2012 17:53 Cloud9157 wrote:
I really hope all you junglers call out timings on Drag/Baron at least. Would be nice to time their blue as well, but I don't do that myself, as its a bit harder to keep track of.

Seriously, got my team 2 or 3 drags because of the timing. Waited about 2 seconds on the last attempt and it spawned.

So good for team if you can remember the timing.



I'm the opposite. I usually know when their buffs are up over dragon/baron :/. I always look to gank/steal their 2nd blue at 7:20ish when it returns. Just no one at my elo listens or cares.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 01 2012 09:16 GMT
#538
Most Effective Pubstomper:
Shaco, Gangplank, Kassadin?
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 09:26:19
January 01 2012 09:23 GMT
#539
On January 01 2012 18:16 Kenpachi wrote:
Most Effective Pubstomper:
Shaco, Gangplank, Kassadin?

Rammus, Riven, Trynd. Especially Riven, due to her nature of "i build damage so i get tankier" she is difficult to play against when she is ahead (you cant focus her cus too tanky, cant ignore her cause she can 1v3).

BUt i guess it all depends on how aware are your enemies. Akali surely does stomp at lower Elos, mummy is still a permaban there...
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 09:27:45
January 01 2012 09:26 GMT
#540
By pubstomper we mean playing vs people below your own level? It's gotta be yi for jungle... aside from kennen, maybe gp for laner? Or riven
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