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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 20 2011 09:39 GMT
#2461
Back in the 1200s we used to play 4 AP and 1 junglewick, didn't make sense but we had shittons of cc and burst it was hella funny.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 09:40:53
December 20 2011 09:40 GMT
#2462
For junglers i'm pretty sure that nunu falls off more than all the other junglers lategame, but i think this would apply to more junglers if you play them as a "support junglers".

Also for support i vote taric, lategame he becomes a stunbot with 2 auras, one of which needs activation and has quite long cd
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 09:59:19
December 20 2011 09:56 GMT
#2463
Warwick, Malzahar, Garen, Pantheon, Janna. Pure cheese... double supress ults, crap tons of AD. No ranged AD though, so good luck if the game drags out. But if you fight anywhere that's not under an enemy turret, easy enough ace. Suppose that's more like a 9 pool speed ling build though.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 20 2011 09:59 GMT
#2464
Pantheon
Leblanc
Lee Sin
Miss Fortune
Taric

probably
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 20 2011 10:02 GMT
#2465
On December 20 2011 18:40 Kaniol wrote:
For junglers i'm pretty sure that nunu falls off more than all the other junglers lategame, but i think this would apply to more junglers if you play them as a "support junglers".


His "jungle" just makes me sad, it's so slow now. And counterjungling's quite "meh". But I didn't know Lee Sin was supposed to fall off, I viewed him more like Udyr/WW/Riven, always fight never die, shield, as slow and lifesteal/spellvamp galore.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
December 20 2011 10:03 GMT
#2466
I'm thinking of buying some quints, but I don't know what to invest in.

I prefer playing top cho/singed, but I try to play all roles a little bit at least. Advice please!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 10:12:40
December 20 2011 10:05 GMT
#2467
He doesn't really fall off, until really late anyway, he's just probably the strongest early game jungle pick.

EDIT: I keep hearing these bands on jiji's stream that sound like exact copies of western bands from like 10 years ago, only asian. like right now he has a band playing that sounds EXACTLY like radiohead circa ok computer, it's blatant duplication. I have to wonder if the fans of this band realize this is an imitation of something from another culture.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 20 2011 10:06 GMT
#2468
MS quints work on everybody, they may not be exceptionnal, but they're never bad. And they help Singed beat Usain Bolt.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 20 2011 10:36 GMT
#2469
Yep Movespeed quints are good, Arp quints are good, flat AP quints are good, armour quints are good, flat AD quints are good. Movespeed quints are good on singed but hp/armour/mr quints are good on almost any top champ.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 20 2011 10:39 GMT
#2470
ArPen, Flat AP, MS are fairly generic Quints to own.

AS if you play certain junglers.
Flat Armor and Flat HP Regen are nice for certain bruisers top.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 10:43:57
December 20 2011 10:39 GMT
#2471
Jungle Xin, get him red + lvl 2 at the start, then gank like mad. TF mid. Twitch assisting Xin's ganks, with lvl 1 oracles. Rammus top, stacking tons of armor. LeBlanc bottom.
Obviously you would run a ton of Ignite, Exhaust, Heal. TF and Rammus take flash. Whoever can get it first builds Aegis.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
December 20 2011 10:42 GMT
#2472
Oh great, Ezreal free week, now I have to pick him super fast before someone plays noobish with him.
End my suffering
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 20 2011 10:44 GMT
#2473
Movespeed is good for Cho'gath, Signed, and Amumu... I use them on supports too (for lack of anything else that is really worthwhile). Armor penetration and flat AP quints are pretty useful too.

I personally recommend armor penetration and movement speed ones though- they have Christmas variants out now that are cheaper, so it's a good time to pick them up.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 11:05:13
December 20 2011 10:59 GMT
#2474
Cheers, I'll probably pick up some sugar rush then

tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 11:23:39
December 20 2011 11:14 GMT
#2475
On December 20 2011 19:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
ArPen, Flat AP, MS are fairly generic Quints to own.

AS if you play certain junglers.
Flat Armor and Flat HP Regen are nice for certain bruisers top.


Flat AD quints are best

I give up, I can't stand watching ads when the game is going on, no more DoubleLift stream
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
December 20 2011 11:28 GMT
#2476
On December 20 2011 12:51 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 10:51 Shiv. wrote:
On December 20 2011 10:46 r.Evo wrote:
TL I hereby ask thee: (thus? I suck at this.)

What's your method of dealing with games where champselect screams OH GAWD TROLLZ OH GAWD.

Think of 1-2 people who ramble on spanish, the obvious ME NO SUPPORT lastpick and where you just smell your teamcomp will be utterly retarded.


My usual approach is to grab some early game dominator (since they work well even if someone decides to lane with you for some reason) and try to gain some kind of momentum to snowball. Stuff like Pantheon. Sometimes it even works. =D

Anyone else got stuff that works for him in those spots?

I'm not dumbed down enough by those things to give up, so I actively try to convince people to be cool to each other and show a little respect, considering we'll have to spend the next 30 or so minutes stuck together as a team.

Works 50% of the time. All the time.


This is damn great. Didn't think of that myself. The whole "Dude, no matter how hard you rage you're stuck with us for the next 20+ minutes." is awesome.

Gonna try that all day.


I'm not entirely sure if the Udyr thingy will work, but I'll give it a try. Thing is in "trolly" games people tend to rage harder when bad stuff happens and to appreciate it less when good stuff happens. Usually I feel as if I make more impact when im a 3-0 panth than when I'm a Caitlyn with 60cs advantage. Impact on morale and therefor the #1 thing in solo q, that is.

Surprisingly, it really works at least half the time, which is better than anything I have tried so far. Occasionally, you'll have people go ''HERPADERP I'LL JUST AFK NO NEED TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU GUYS''. I just ask them if they really are mean enough to consciously waste 20 minutes of 4 people's lives and if they truly want to be that person. Oddly, some people really listen to that, regardless of the anonymity of the internet.

Let me know how it worked out for you
currently rooting for myself.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 20 2011 11:34 GMT
#2477
I just looked again at Viktor's leaked stats, and he seems to have fairly low numbers regarding base mana and manaregen compared to other casters. In fact, they're almost identical to Swain, baring inferior mana pool/regen.
Aren't sustained dps casters supposed to use more mana during fights than bursty casters? That one surprised me.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
December 20 2011 11:36 GMT
#2478
Remember that the Chrismas Runes are available. T3 for 75% the IP!
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 13:06:57
December 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#2479
On December 20 2011 18:05 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 17:02 overt wrote:
On December 20 2011 16:27 travis wrote:
I don't really think you should be like "oh time to die for the team now!", though
I mean if you can stay alive while doing damage by all means do it.


You aren't intentionally dying but Karthus, Kennen, and Morgana for example all play that way. Especially Karthus. Run into the enemy team, do your big giant AoE burst, win the team fight or get mad because your team is retarded and couldn't win the fight even though you did your job perfectly.

Bonus points if you don't die.


But the latter two actually click their zhonya's once they're in!

Best karthus - dcap, 2xarchangels, zhonya's, GA + revive/teleport + zilean & galio. :p

Edit: does shaco's passive - 20% more damage when attacking from behind - work with his clone too?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
December 20 2011 13:14 GMT
#2480
On December 20 2011 21:51 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 18:05 Alaric wrote:
On December 20 2011 17:02 overt wrote:
On December 20 2011 16:27 travis wrote:
I don't really think you should be like "oh time to die for the team now!", though
I mean if you can stay alive while doing damage by all means do it.


You aren't intentionally dying but Karthus, Kennen, and Morgana for example all play that way. Especially Karthus. Run into the enemy team, do your big giant AoE burst, win the team fight or get mad because your team is retarded and couldn't win the fight even though you did your job perfectly.

Bonus points if you don't die.


But the latter two actually click their zhonya's once they're in!

Best karthus - dcap, 2xarchangels, zhonya's, GA + revive/teleport + zilean & galio. :p

Edit: does shaco's passive - 20% more damage when attacking from behind - work with his clone too?
yes
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