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rigwarl
United States540 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On December 21 2011 01:38 57 Corvette wrote: So i am trying to set up a new teamcomp, for me and my duo queue partner. It will be Shen jungle (after the next patch cause shen jungle is going to be trolologood), and a mid that can be really annoying with an early bluebuff (Shen doesn't need it at all). What mid laner will most benifit by level 1 bluebuff? Zilean or Cassiopeia. More mana/CDR translates directly into more/better harass for them. Really, most APs would love a level 1 blue, but those two can probably get the most mileage out of it. On December 21 2011 01:41 Slayer91 wrote: I have a complete lack of faith in shen jungle when slow junglers are just getting kicked around in the new jungle. Shen can do what he does from jungle while farming a lane and zoning some poor sap in top lane. You can do the same thing with ree sing and use early ganks to dominate top and bot as well. While PBE jungle Shen is pretty decent, I think this is a fair point. Everything that makes Shen so stupidly good in the jungle probably will make him an even more stupidly good toplane champion. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
It depends a lot on how you play. I think spell vamp quints are good if you start dshield, since you probably won't be going back for a while (and since you don't have boots, you need to farm up revolver and boots instead of just revolver). AP quints are good if you want to zone early. For someone like Mordekaiser you want to send him back as much as you can before he gets a revolver so I'd get AP quints against him. I haven't tried HP quints but I think they'd be good against more bursty mids. I know some people get movespeed too but I don't really like them. They're probably good for teamfights though. I like the 10 energy in utility just because 210 energy lets you QWE at level 3 and 4 if you need to stun someone to escape a gank or something. If you level QWQ instead of QWE then it's a bit less useful. Movespeed is good too. I think 9/9/8 with the rest of the points in whatever is a decent alternative. I'm not a huge fan of the AP side in offense. edit: actually 9 not 8 in utility. he's not RELIANT on buffs but both blue and red are amazing on him. it's pretty much impossible to kill a double buff Kennen with Rylai's since he kites ridiculously well. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
always give red buff to mid AP carry, especially when you are karthus. karthus Q with red buff is OP! | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:04 emucxg wrote: chinese have found a new meta: always give red buff to mid AP carry, especially when you are karthus. karthus Q with red buff is OP! Ive seen Scarra grab lvl 1 red buff on kat. That shit is pretty scary. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On December 21 2011 01:50 starfries wrote: For Kennen It depends a lot on how you play. I think spell vamp quints are good if you start dshield, since you probably won't be going back for a while (and since you don't have boots, you need to farm up revolver and boots instead of just revolver). AP quints are good if you want to zone early. For someone like Mordekaiser you want to send him back as much as you can before he gets a revolver so I'd get AP quints against him. I haven't tried HP quints but I think they'd be good against more bursty mids. I know some people get movespeed too but I don't really like them. They're probably good for teamfights though. I like the 10 energy in utility just because 210 energy lets you QWE at level 3 and 4 if you need to stun someone to escape a gank or something. If you level QWQ instead of QWE then it's a bit less useful. Movespeed is good too. I think 9/9/8 with the rest of the points in whatever is a decent alternative. I'm not a huge fan of the AP side in offense. edit: actually 9 not 8 in utility. he's not RELIANT on buffs but both blue and red are amazing on him. it's pretty much impossible to kill a double buff Kennen with Rylai's since he kites ridiculously well. Do something like this: 21/9/0 Notice the funky AD stats taken. "BUT I PLAY AP KENNEN" Sure, but Kennen's autoattack harrass is pretty nasty at early levels. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On December 21 2011 01:56 JackDino wrote: Pant rapes targets without armour, Pant Leona great lane. Gangplank great toplane, destroys baddies without armour. Gangplank great support. Why not go Pant GP bot and farm kills, always Q and E for kills. more stuns better with pant than GP bullshit and also I think GP sucks without items. pant taric pretty good if your duo queue partner is too cheap to buy Leona just to play that lane -_-. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:10 spinesheath wrote: Do something like this: 21/9/0 Notice the funky AD stats taken. "BUT I PLAY AP KENNEN" Sure, but Kennen's autoattack harrass is pretty nasty at early levels. I actually get AD masteries when I go 21 offense huehuehue but instead of alacrity I get sunder. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:10 spinesheath wrote: Do something like this: 21/9/0 Notice the funky AD stats taken. "BUT I PLAY AP KENNEN" Sure, but Kennen's autoattack harrass is pretty nasty at early levels. Those are good masteries for Kennen if you're playing aggressive in lane. Which I think you should, Kennen is a really strong duelist. But if someone is getting vamp quints they have to get the spell vamp in utility. Which means less offensive masteries and is another reason I think the spell vamp quints are a deceptive trap (unless you want to play a boring farm lane as Kennen). | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:20 overt wrote: Those are good masteries for Kennen if you're playing aggressive in lane. Which I think you should, Kennen is a really strong duelist. But if someone is getting vamp quints they have to get the spell vamp in utility. Which means less offensive masteries and is another reason I think the spell vamp quints are a deceptive trap (unless you want to play a boring farm lane as Kennen). Why would you have to get the spell vamp mastery just because you get spell vamp quints? You don't have to hit a certain sweet spot like some jungle setups, so you can consider the cost/return for masteries and runes independently. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 21 2011 00:18 Sabin010 wrote: Soraka wouldn't be bad either cause she can feed you a ton of mana, which turns into a lot of knives. You could even start longsword and one potion and get away with a later tear of the goddess in that lane. I ran Cho+Urgot bot lane. We wrecked pretty hard. His ulti would pop, then I knocked up + silence + feast, no way the fucker was getting away :D Then again the lane was fairly easy.... Wukong and twitch. | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
On December 20 2011 20:36 Unentschieden wrote: Remember that the Chrismas Runes are available. T3 for 75% the IP! Where are these runes you speak of? | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Level 2 or 3, kill anyone. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On December 21 2011 00:16 Shiv. wrote: How would archangel first be any better? :/ I didn't say archangel first was better. But deathcap on ryze is even more retarded than an archangel. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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