EPT[Patch 1.0.0.130: Volibear] General Discussion - Page 25
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Saint's been doing literally NOTHING but farming his jungle, clearing it non stop. 17 minutes into the game he has been able to buy merc threads 2nd doran's shield (started with 1) Aegis | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On November 30 2011 10:03 danana wrote: xin zhao seems pretty much unviable in jungle (haven't tested it, but my impression is that lvl 2 ganks will be late and set me behind)... so can anyone suggest some good, fun, not-too-rune-dependent, and preferably cheap junglers for new patch? i'm considering buying skarner with my next 6300 IP but i also want to get cass (and too cheap to get RP @_@) edit: actually, how would cho'gath work in jungle? i might try it out in a custom but i don't really have a good feel for what's a good clear time and things like that Skarner is very strong. Clears fast strong ganks, if you get near them they are infinitely slowed. His Ult is very satisfying as well. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
(290 + 280) * 1.5 = 855 damage? | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On November 30 2011 09:43 MoonBear wrote: Re Red Buff: Spells that apply direct damage will apply red buff. SaintV Jungle Annie about to get even more terror. Confirmed. direct damage spells meaning single target targeted nukes? do Morgana and Kennen skillshots apply it? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 30 2011 09:45 Two_DoWn wrote: Moon, is there a way to unpatch and just stay on the shyv patch? With you on that one. You should have heard me complaining to Loae all day hahaha. Not a fan of this patch so far | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On November 30 2011 10:22 starfries wrote: direct damage spells meaning single target targeted nukes? do Morgana and Kennen skillshots apply it? i think it's just point and click spells | ||
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Mufaa
219 Posts
On November 30 2011 09:53 lynx.oblige wrote: GP Q already applied red. Ez Q is a skill shot - supposed only works with targeted abilities. I haven't played Ez in months, but his Q applies on hit effects unless it got patched and I didn't notice. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On November 30 2011 10:21 Juicyfruit wrote: Wait.. so suppose that volibear has 1400 bonus health (warmogs), and he hits a 50% HP target with W, the resulting damage would be: (290 + 280) * 1.5 = 855 damage? physical damage yes. Keep in mind those numbers are also after he attacks 3 times, gets 3k gold, and then has to wait 18 seconds before doing it again | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On November 30 2011 10:30 Phrost wrote: physical damage yes. Keep in mind those numbers are also after he attacks 3 times, gets 3k gold, and then has to wait 18 seconds before doing it again So basically your saying anyone who can farm decently well can do 855 damage by ~20 minutes. By building pure health. Seems fair. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On November 30 2011 10:32 Two_DoWn wrote: So basically your saying anyone who can farm decently well can do 855 damage by ~20 minutes. By building pure health. Seems fair. Garen's been doing a ton of damage with no items for years and nobody complained about that. The thing with your example is it is extremely specific and the chances of it mattering are extremely slow. If you're hitting a high hp target then getting them to 50% itself is a chore, and then chances are the 900 damage will kill them are slim to none anyway. If its a low hp target, chances are if they get to 50% hp they will be dead even if it only did 400 damage. If you rush warmogs sure you can hit like a truck with 1 skill but you'll just basically bumble around the rest of the time. | ||
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rigwarl
United States540 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On November 30 2011 10:39 Phrost wrote: Garen's been doing a ton of damage with no items for years and nobody complained about that. The thing with your example is it is extremely specific and the chances of it mattering are extremely slow. If you're hitting a high hp target then getting them to 50% itself is a chore, and then chances are the 900 damage will kill them are slim to none anyway. If its a low hp target, chances are if they get to 50% hp they will be dead even if it only did 400 damage. If you rush warmogs sure you can hit like a truck with 1 skill but you'll just basically bumble around the rest of the time. Executing somebody who drops to half sounds pretty cool really. It's like Garen ultimate except it has a much shorter cooldown and scales on your max hp instead of theirs. You can always pick up a Wit's End to do damage while you wait for W cooldown. Not like anybody can focus and kill you. On November 30 2011 10:41 rigwarl wrote: Garen's E only hits for 630, but the cooldown is also half as long as Voli's W, and it's AoE. It also isn't instant damage. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 30 2011 10:39 Phrost wrote: Garen's been doing a ton of damage with no items for years and nobody complained about that. The thing with your example is it is extremely specific and the chances of it mattering are extremely slow. If you're hitting a high hp target then getting them to 50% itself is a chore, and then chances are the 900 damage will kill them are slim to none anyway. If its a low hp target, chances are if they get to 50% hp they will be dead even if it only did 400 damage. If you rush warmogs sure you can hit like a truck with 1 skill but you'll just basically bumble around the rest of the time. your argument assumes is only 2 kinds of people, those with 2k hp and those with 5k theres a whole range of hps to get at in between that, its not as simple as you either have a frozen mallet and stacked warmoggs or you dont. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
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Lorken
New Zealand804 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 30 2011 09:43 MoonBear wrote: Re Trynd Bug: Can you give me steps to reproduce it? Or have a replay? I'll need to be able to see what happened. Re Red Buff: Spells that apply direct damage will apply red buff. SaintV Jungle Annie about to get even more terror. Confirmed. any chance on powerball getting fixed sometime soon? the number of times ive just sat there spinning in a minion or champions face and nothing happening is a bit retarded. its only like 5% of the time but when you are jungling you cant wait 100 mana on a spell that might not do anything -_- | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Way to ruin the jungle guiz. With that being said. I preferred the kat patch, before. Too many times I want to shunpo to a creep, for a cs, but sometimes just straight up die, because i get stuck on top of minions. grrrr. Also, how does volibear play? great? | ||
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javy_
United States1677 Posts
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