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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 11 2011 20:34 GMT
#3781
On December 12 2011 05:30 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 01:52 NotSorry wrote:
On December 12 2011 01:31 YunhOLee wrote:
anyone thinks they're gunna buff xin zhao soon? :o hes one of my favorite champions by far


one of the easiest champs to play and already very strong, don't be expecting a buff unless they overly nerf him first

Excuse me, what?
He's a pubstomper at best and outclassed at pretty much everything he does. His kit is awesome, but numbers need to be tweaked and besides, currently, there's no place to put him.


if they buff xin zhao he'll just crap on noobs all day, and there will be massive QQ
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 20:35:10
December 11 2011 20:34 GMT
#3782
On December 12 2011 05:30 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 01:52 NotSorry wrote:
On December 12 2011 01:31 YunhOLee wrote:
anyone thinks they're gunna buff xin zhao soon? :o hes one of my favorite champions by far


one of the easiest champs to play and already very strong, don't be expecting a buff unless they overly nerf him first

Excuse me, what?
He's a pubstomper at best and outclassed at pretty much everything he does. His kit is awesome, but numbers need to be tweaked and besides, currently, there's no place to put him.

Put him in the jungle or vs certain solotops, his burst is still hella strong.
Unless you meant a place on the team, he's a bruiser.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 20:40:30
December 11 2011 20:40 GMT
#3783
On December 12 2011 05:34 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 05:30 Shiv. wrote:
On December 12 2011 01:52 NotSorry wrote:
On December 12 2011 01:31 YunhOLee wrote:
anyone thinks they're gunna buff xin zhao soon? :o hes one of my favorite champions by far


one of the easiest champs to play and already very strong, don't be expecting a buff unless they overly nerf him first

Excuse me, what?
He's a pubstomper at best and outclassed at pretty much everything he does. His kit is awesome, but numbers need to be tweaked and besides, currently, there's no place to put him.

Put him in the jungle or vs certain solotops, his burst is still hella strong.
Unless you meant a place on the team, he's a bruiser.

I like Xin a lot and he's loads of fun to play, but you have to admit there's better bursters top and better junglers. (and bruisers, that is) His lvl 2 gank is one of the, if not the strongest in the game, but that's about it. Sure he stomps people in Solo Q or people who don't know what they are doing. But that does not necessarily make him a strong champion.
currently rooting for myself.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 11 2011 20:43 GMT
#3784
Xin is in the unhappy place where his kit is inherently broken, and there really isnt any way to fix it without changing who it is. His 1v1 is incredibly strong thanks to his q and e, and his ulti can chunk entire teams quite badly, AND make him tankier.

The real question is how the hell do you buff him? You give him damage, then he becomes the best early game 1v1 in the game, which will snowball all game long. You buff his inherent tankiness, and he becomes a teamfight monster thanks to his ult and his ability to stick to and chase high priority targets (irelia v2.0 with more disable power).
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 11 2011 20:48 GMT
#3785
On December 12 2011 05:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
Xin is in the unhappy place where his kit is inherently broken, and there really isnt any way to fix it without changing who it is. His 1v1 is incredibly strong thanks to his q and e, and his ulti can chunk entire teams quite badly, AND make him tankier.

The real question is how the hell do you buff him? You give him damage, then he becomes the best early game 1v1 in the game, which will snowball all game long. You buff his inherent tankiness, and he becomes a teamfight monster thanks to his ult and his ability to stick to and chase high priority targets (irelia v2.0 with more disable power).


cuze there arent such champs already , oh wait.Xin zhao is a dead , never gonna buff him cuze ppl at 1200 are too bad , never pick him above 1500 thats it.
Ad augusta per angust
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 21:04:42
December 11 2011 21:01 GMT
#3786
On December 12 2011 05:40 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 05:34 JackDino wrote:
On December 12 2011 05:30 Shiv. wrote:
On December 12 2011 01:52 NotSorry wrote:
On December 12 2011 01:31 YunhOLee wrote:
anyone thinks they're gunna buff xin zhao soon? :o hes one of my favorite champions by far


one of the easiest champs to play and already very strong, don't be expecting a buff unless they overly nerf him first

Excuse me, what?
He's a pubstomper at best and outclassed at pretty much everything he does. His kit is awesome, but numbers need to be tweaked and besides, currently, there's no place to put him.

Put him in the jungle or vs certain solotops, his burst is still hella strong.
Unless you meant a place on the team, he's a bruiser.

I like Xin a lot and he's loads of fun to play, but you have to admit there's better bursters top and better junglers. (and bruisers, that is) His lvl 2 gank is one of the, if not the strongest in the game, but that's about it. Sure he stomps people in Solo Q or people who don't know what they are doing. But that does not necessarily make him a strong champion.

There are always better champs but in the ends it's a fucking game, and as long as the champ isn't worthless it's ok.
People always seem to forget that this is a game and don't seem to even consider a champion unless he's the very best at what he does. I'm pretty sure the majority doesn't play in big money tourneys 95% of the time they play this game.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 11 2011 21:05 GMT
#3787
On December 12 2011 05:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
Xin is in the unhappy place where his kit is inherently broken, and there really isnt any way to fix it without changing who it is. His 1v1 is incredibly strong thanks to his q and e, and his ulti can chunk entire teams quite badly, AND make him tankier.

The real question is how the hell do you buff him? You give him damage, then he becomes the best early game 1v1 in the game, which will snowball all game long. You buff his inherent tankiness, and he becomes a teamfight monster thanks to his ult and his ability to stick to and chase high priority targets (irelia v2.0 with more disable power).


His disable power is garbage now, I don't think infinite sticking is really an issue for him anymore.

I'd like it if they refocused him to play around more with mobility. Replace the knockup on Q with a slow, take the slow off his E, let it jump to anyone (minions wards allied heroes etc), and give it a really low cooldown.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
December 11 2011 21:06 GMT
#3788
Xins role get's overshadowed by nocturne for hard engaging and Irelia for the more solo top style bruiser. He's easier to play than both but I feel like the other two simply are better since all the nerfs.
aka Teutonica
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 21:20:34
December 11 2011 21:19 GMT
#3789
On December 12 2011 06:05 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 05:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
Xin is in the unhappy place where his kit is inherently broken, and there really isnt any way to fix it without changing who it is. His 1v1 is incredibly strong thanks to his q and e, and his ulti can chunk entire teams quite badly, AND make him tankier.

The real question is how the hell do you buff him? You give him damage, then he becomes the best early game 1v1 in the game, which will snowball all game long. You buff his inherent tankiness, and he becomes a teamfight monster thanks to his ult and his ability to stick to and chase high priority targets (irelia v2.0 with more disable power).


His disable power is garbage now, I don't think infinite sticking is really an issue for him anymore.

I'd like it if they refocused him to play around more with mobility. Replace the knockup on Q with a slow, take the slow off his E, let it jump to anyone (minions wards allied heroes etc), and give it a really low cooldown.


Yes, let's give him Akali ulti but better, what a great idea. I think he's fine as is, he's just another hero that's a very niche pick.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 11 2011 21:24 GMT
#3790
Does Dan Dinh watch BW?I saw him today run around with Leona stunning people and yelling PLAGUUU!!
Cackle™
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 11 2011 21:37 GMT
#3791
On December 12 2011 06:24 TheKefka wrote:
Does Dan Dinh watch BW?I saw him today run around with Leona stunning people and yelling PLAGUUU!!


Probably not.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
December 11 2011 21:43 GMT
#3792
if xin's kit is broken then so is riven's. and I will be expecting nerfz.
Brees on in
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 11 2011 21:44 GMT
#3793
On December 12 2011 06:37 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 06:24 TheKefka wrote:
Does Dan Dinh watch BW?I saw him today run around with Leona stunning people and yelling PLAGUUU!!


Probably not.

He was talkin yesterday as though he was familiar with korean commentary when he went to the korean stream for WCG.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 11 2011 21:46 GMT
#3794
Has the riven vs pant showdown happened yet?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
December 11 2011 21:58 GMT
#3795
On December 12 2011 06:43 Brees wrote:
if xin's kit is broken then so is riven's. and I will be expecting nerfz.

Riven is not as easy to play compared to xin tho.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 11 2011 21:59 GMT
#3796
On December 12 2011 06:43 Brees wrote:
if xin's kit is broken then so is riven's. and I will be expecting nerfz.


I think MoonBear said that Riot considers her borderline OP. So probably Riven nerfs in a few patches?

And I don't think that Riven is as hard to play as others do. You can 1v1 almost anyone at level 1 and late game you just jump straight into the enemy team and mash all of the buttons.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 11 2011 22:16 GMT
#3797
On December 12 2011 06:58 HeroHenry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 06:43 Brees wrote:
if xin's kit is broken then so is riven's. and I will be expecting nerfz.

Riven is not as easy to play compared to xin tho.

Yeah Riven's Q requires 3 button presses whereas Xin's Q requires 3 autos.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 22:18:46
December 11 2011 22:18 GMT
#3798
On December 12 2011 07:16 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 06:58 HeroHenry wrote:
On December 12 2011 06:43 Brees wrote:
if xin's kit is broken then so is riven's. and I will be expecting nerfz.

Riven is not as easy to play compared to xin tho.

Yeah Riven's Q requires 3 button presses whereas Xin's Q requires 3 autos.

Exactly and her ult is a skill shot
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 22:21:32
December 11 2011 22:21 GMT
#3799
On December 12 2011 07:18 HeroHenry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:16 JackDino wrote:
On December 12 2011 06:58 HeroHenry wrote:
On December 12 2011 06:43 Brees wrote:
if xin's kit is broken then so is riven's. and I will be expecting nerfz.

Riven is not as easy to play compared to xin tho.

Yeah Riven's Q requires 3 button presses whereas Xin's Q requires 3 autos.

Exactly and her ult is a skill shot

Xin ult is harder to hit, it has no range indicator it's like smartcast, way harder to hit everyone possible whenever needed.
Try hitting everyone with mumu ult @ max range.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 11 2011 22:49 GMT
#3800
On December 12 2011 07:18 HeroHenry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 07:16 JackDino wrote:
On December 12 2011 06:58 HeroHenry wrote:
On December 12 2011 06:43 Brees wrote:
if xin's kit is broken then so is riven's. and I will be expecting nerfz.

Riven is not as easy to play compared to xin tho.

Yeah Riven's Q requires 3 button presses whereas Xin's Q requires 3 autos.

Exactly and her ult is a skill shot

A skill shot is not a frontal aoe cone.
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