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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On December 12 2011 02:19 Hynda wrote: ecause they never do the math and keep releasing completly broken champions who them rarely fix. That has nothing to do with pretty looking numbers vs decimals for the players. | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
On December 12 2011 01:48 TheYango wrote: Doesn't Warmog's list fractional HP/hp5 gains when you have strange stack counts? And you don't have any funky math to do with gold/10, so you can use whatever the hell units you want for it. Except, again, you have to convert either all to per-second or all per-5 when you want to actually do math with the numbers, still. Using per-5 regen doesn't make fractional regen disappear. You're still going to do the division and go to per-second in a situation where you actually want to use the numbers for something. Yeah there's some special cases for stacking items I guess, but every nonstacking item I can think of that gives hp5 does so in whole numbers. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On December 12 2011 02:20 TheYango wrote: Except if you're not doing the math, then how the hell is "15 hp5" any different than "a bunch of hp5"? Numbers are only useful insofar as you're actually using the numbers. Why the hell would you display the numbers in a fashion that's most useful for the people who don't care about them? From that perspective, you could just have the tooltip for Infinity Edge be "This item makes you do a lot more autoattack damage, crit more often, and makes your crits hit way harder." For most of the player base, it'd be the same damn thing. They'd still just copy the recommended items/what their friends tell them to buy/high elo streams. EDIT: Completely random aside, that would be an interesting idea for a game--don't externally display any of the numbers for items/character stats. Just give general descriptions and make the theorycrafting junkies want to tear their hair out. Of course in practice, that wouldn't work because in 2 days someone would datamine the game files and make that data available. Diablo 3 is about to do just that with their simplified tooltips. They'll either release the data for the websites or just allow it to be mined, but they said they're trying to simplify tooltips by greatly reducing the information and numbers contained. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On December 12 2011 02:29 JackDino wrote: That has nothing to do with pretty looking numbers vs decimals for the players. I know, but it seems numbers is something they completly ignore regardless of situation. | ||
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:52 Hynda wrote: But that should even out over 100s of games. I see people with 300+ games at 1600 that can't last hit, never ward, always run into super obvious traps ect. I don't know but I could never ever see a Master/Diamond (how many master players in the world are there?) do shit like that. I wouldn't even say a Silver League player would do those kinds of things, yet they manage to stay over 100's of games, that must mean that the rest of that 1600's are just as bad on average. Also the more players you have logicly your top 10.000 should be better than those with less players. I think you are just really biased. Are you saying that everyone 1600+ should have perfect last hitting and perfect map awareness? And you never see masters/diamond players do stupid shit? Hell, even pro players get supply blocked from stupid mistakes fairly frequently. The amount that master/diamond players get supply blocked is very high and that is just a stupid mistake most of the time. Top SC players also get baited into very obvious traps. "O hey come chase my mutalisks you can kill them easy." BANELING MINES. Not to mention things like going fast cloaked banshees and then losing it to marines. SC players make just as many dumb mistakes. | ||
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Shifft
Canada1085 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:52 Hynda wrote: But that should even out over 100s of games. I see people with 300+ games at 1600 that can't last hit, never ward, always run into super obvious traps ect. I don't know but I could never ever see a Master/Diamond (how many master players in the world are there?) do shit like that. I wouldn't even say a Silver League player would do those kinds of things, yet they manage to stay over 100's of games, that must mean that the rest of that 1600's are just as bad on average. Also the more players you have logicly your top 10.000 should be better than those with less players. Hahaha, you have a very strange idea of how good masters and diamond players are at SC2...many diamond players don't even know proper build orders that you could find on liquipedia or strat forums. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
"herp derp I'm in daimond." Good job, kid, you can 4gate! =) | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:21 BlackPaladin wrote: lol, diamond players are like 1300 players in LoL. "herp derp I'm in daimond." Good job, kid, you can 4gate! =) Exactly how I got to diamond in SC2. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:34 Nytefish wrote: Does cleanse or qss get rid of fizz fish? Cleanse should not, QSS should. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Shouldn't Cleanse remove it because the fish applies a slow? | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:42 TheYango wrote: Shouldn't Cleanse remove it because the fish applies a slow? I think it only removes slow part, in the same way GP orange and Garen spin remove the snare from exhaust but not the actual debuff. Taken from the wiki: Once Chum the Waters has become attached to an enemy champion, it is classified as "delayed damage" and will still affect "untargetable" foes (such as champions using Sanguine Pool, Twisted Advance, or Alpha Strike). If the marked champion dies or removes the mark with Quicksilver Sash, the secondary effects of Chum the Waters will activate immediately, making it undesirable to remove. That's pretty annoying lol. | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:42 TheYango wrote: Shouldn't Cleanse remove it because the fish applies a slow? Isn't the current behavior that it instantly triggers the fish? | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:42 TheYango wrote: Shouldn't Cleanse remove it because the fish applies a slow? It should only remove the slow, not the debuff itself. And if the slow is constantly reapplied, you'll get slowed again. Think Morde ult with Rylai's: Cleanse removes the slow temporarily, but not the debuff. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:21 BlackPaladin wrote: lol, diamond players are like 1300 players in LoL. "herp derp I'm in daimond." Good job, kid, you can 4gate! =) Master's League? D- on ICCUP in Brood War. SHOTS FIRED AT THE SC2 COMMUNITY | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:18 Shifft wrote: Hahaha, you have a very strange idea of how good masters and diamond players are at SC2...many diamond players don't even know proper build orders that you could find on liquipedia or strat forums. But they know how to tie their own shoelaces, unlike 95% of the people at 1600. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On December 12 2011 03:21 BlackPaladin wrote: lol, diamond players are like 1300 players in LoL. "herp derp I'm in daimond." Good job, kid, you can 4gate! =) exactly how I got to the top of masters playing random P = 4gate Zerg = 9Pool Terran = 2rax | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On December 12 2011 01:52 NotSorry wrote: one of the easiest champs to play and already very strong, don't be expecting a buff unless they overly nerf him first Excuse me, what? He's a pubstomper at best and outclassed at pretty much everything he does. His kit is awesome, but numbers need to be tweaked and besides, currently, there's no place to put him. | ||
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