EPT[Patch 1.0.0.130: Volibear] General Discussion - Page 187
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On December 11 2011 22:50 starfries wrote: random thought... anyone tried spell vamp on Singed? Got like a revolver and a wota aaaaages ago, it's hilarious how much you heal if people run in your poison. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
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Unentschieden
Germany1471 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21630 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:07 Hynda wrote: LoL must have the worst player base out there, I was thinking. I'm playing at 1600 which is what top 10.000? And I see people that lack absolute basic motorskills and decision making. The top 10.000 CS players, or top 10.000 WoW players even is 500 times better than these guys, not to talk about top 10.000 starcraft players. I wonder why. Law of Averages plus being a teamgame. When 11 million people play your game there will be a lot of really bad people. When 4 people can carry 1 utterly bad person to a win he gets higher then he should be. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On December 11 2011 21:28 Bwaaaa wrote: I didn't say that rylai's is bad on singed, I get it on him basically every game that I need the slow to get away from team fights late game. I was just a bit stunned that anyone could say that it was better than ROA (I may have overreacted). Personally I don't like getting it too early because it discourages people from chasing you  and a FoN or frozen heart makes you tankier.If you buy RoA you're delaying your rylais by 1710 gold. That's not ideal cus you want it for team fight trolling. | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:12 Gorsameth wrote: Law of Averages plus being a teamgame. When 11 million people play your game there will be a lot of really bad people. When 4 people can carry 1 utterly bad person to a win he gets higher then he should be. But that should even out over 100s of games. I see people with 300+ games at 1600 that can't last hit, never ward, always run into super obvious traps ect. I don't know but I could never ever see a Master/Diamond (how many master players in the world are there?) do shit like that. I wouldn't even say a Silver League player would do those kinds of things, yet they manage to stay over 100's of games, that must mean that the rest of that 1600's are just as bad on average. Also the more players you have logicly your top 10.000 should be better than those with less players. | ||
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:52 Hynda wrote: But that should even out over 100s of games. I see people with 300+ games at 1600 that can't last hit, never ward, always run into super obvious traps ect. I don't know but I could never ever see a Master/Diamond (how many master players in the world are there?) do shit like that. I wouldn't even say a Silver League player would do those kinds of things, yet they manage to stay over 100's of games, that must mean that the rest of that 1600's are just as bad on average. Also the more players you have logicly your top 10.000 should be better than those with less players. There are articles on TL about people that 6 pool and 4 gate to masters. It's completely possible to be at an inflated rating in SC2. Those players don't win tournaments or even look like other players "at their tier", but then again, neither do these inflated LoL players. Also, everyone has "those" games. Sometimes you just can't help it but you're last hitting for shit or just derping or feeding. You could be fine in 99% of games, but that one game you just can't get out of your own way. For you, it's a super rare mistake. For the other 4 people? You're a terrible feeder at a ridiculously inflated ELO that you don't deserve. Perspective, I guess. Now, that doesn't explain it all, but I mean, you're sampling very little of these people's gaming career. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On December 11 2011 22:50 starfries wrote: random thought... anyone tried spell vamp on Singed? I tried it once, too, and I was pretty disappointed by it... Singed's poison is AoE, you don't heal a whole lot from it. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:52 Hynda wrote: But that should even out over 100s of games. I see people with 300+ games at 1600 that can't last hit, never ward, always run into super obvious traps ect. I don't know but I could never ever see a Master/Diamond (how many master players in the world are there?) do shit like that. I wouldn't even say a Silver League player would do those kinds of things, yet they manage to stay over 100's of games, that must mean that the rest of that 1600's are just as bad on average. Also the more players you have logicly your top 10.000 should be better than those with less players. It just indicates how big the LoL playerbase is. For reference, the Diamond-or-higher player base is the top 8% of SC2 players, while 1600+ is like top 2% of LoL players. http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all http://www.dmh.se/elo.php | ||
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Craton
United States17246 Posts
On December 11 2011 23:07 Unentschieden wrote: It´s like Rylais, good but ultimately luxury. On Singed sustainability more likely would come from FoN since that makes you also run faster. Take a look at the Team, if there are others that could use it it´s great but not really necessary for singed himself. Secret plan is to pick Singed when you have a WotA carrying champ (aka every AP that doesn't use mana plus a few more). | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On December 12 2011 00:22 spinesheath wrote: I tried it once, too, and I was pretty disappointed by it... Singed's poison is AoE, you don't heal a whole lot from it. You do if you constantly hit everyone with it, you know like in teamfights. On another note, has anyone ever used surge other than just trying it out? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On December 11 2011 22:50 starfries wrote: random thought... anyone tried spell vamp on Singed? I remember Dyrus going AP singed, pretty sure that WOTA was his 2. or 3. big item (post rod or post d-cap, not sure which one) | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Craton
United States17246 Posts
On December 12 2011 00:44 JackDino wrote: You do if you constantly hit everyone with it, you know like in teamfights. On another note, has anyone ever used surge other than just trying it out? Nope. Tried it and hated it. It replaces Rally quite well. + Show Spoiler + (Because nobody uses it) Do you ever buy vamp on udyr? wouldn't it be great with tiger and possibly phoenix? It would be pretty awful. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Actually, why the hell did Riot feel the need to list regen as per-5 at all? It seems like it's unnecessarily importing a WoW convention without the underlying mechanic that necessitated that convention in WoW in the first place (5-second rule). | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On December 12 2011 00:50 JackDino wrote: Do you ever buy vamp on udyr? wouldn't it be great with tiger and possibly phoenix? It's more efficient to buy resists and cdr for your turtle shield. Vamp relies on being able to hit your target and the motivation for people not focusing you should be that they are doing damage mostly to your completely spammable shield and if they know you rely on sticking to your target to stay alive it's much easier to CC you and scare you out of a fight. Pheonix scales with AP and does more magic damage than tiger so hextech revovler would be not a completely retarded choice on him but still bad. It's just better to hope a teammate buys WoTA to give you a little extra on top of your insane tankiness already. | ||
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Craton
United States17246 Posts
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