[Patch 1.0.0.130: Volibear] General Discussion - Page 185

On December 11 2011 17:26 Bwaaaa wrote:
Can I have a list of 'mana-less' champions that scale well off ap?
I have been trying to think up a list but all I can think of are rumble, kennen and alkali.Is that all there is? I want to know because I want to start buying Rylai's more often but I always find it hard to trade off all that mana and sustain in ROA.

On December 11 2011 17:26 STS17 wrote:


Check spoiler, much more than 5 bear puns

On December 11 2011 17:37 Treadmill wrote:
Was just playing a game as riven jungle. Got q first (best l1 damage), start blue with a pretty good leash. Q-hit-q-hit-q-hit, as it wanders into the little brush, and then it resets and walks back to its starting position and heals back to full. All the while im hitting it as it walks back. I stay inside its radius ( I did NOT get too far away). This is the second time this has happened to me as Riven. My suspicion is that the knock-back from the third q knocks it out of its radius, I can understand that. But why the fuck does it not then re-aggro when I hit it? Is this a bug?

On December 11 2011 18:04 Bwaaaa wrote:
Wow I cant believe I forgot vlad and kat thank you. On another semi-related note when is the right time (if ever) to build rylai's I know it is standard on rumble and viable on singed and heimerdinger but when is it better than a ROA on more standard ap casters?

On December 11 2011 17:47 Ryuu314 wrote:

A very key trick in jungling after you get a leash is to stand between blue and blue's original position. Blue buff, and all monsters in the jungle, will try to walk back to its original position when it loses aggro. However, if there is a hostile target hitting it (you) in its path, it will stop to attack it. It's not so much staying in range of blue as it is putting yourself in its path. In other words, a very bad diagram (I'm too lazy to open ms paint or w/e):

Before leash:
(blue)____________(you)

After leash, blue will walk out and you want to be positioned like so.
(original pos)______(you)(blue)

What I see a lot of junglers do when they fail is they stand next to blue, outside of the bush, not in its path like so:
(original pos)______(blue)
_________________(you)

If far enough away, the last position will cause blue to reset.

On December 11 2011 11:27 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Thanks for all the advice on Jungle Gangplank. Unfortunately, I cannot afford the runes right now but I will definitely try them once I am able to purchase them.

koreasilver, I was worried about Nocturne being less viable due to his nerfs but since you've said he is still good for jungle then I will definitely look into purchasing him. Thanks!

On December 11 2011 19:36 seRapH wrote:

Rylai's is core on Singed, way more core than RoA. Most AP champs that have hard CCs shouldn't ever need Rylai's (Annie, Brand, Morgana). Champs that don't have hard CC (not including ult) often really like Rylai's, such as Cass, Akali, Kat, Kog, etc.

On December 11 2011 19:36 seRapH wrote:

Rylai's is core on Singed, way more core than RoA. Most AP champs that have hard CCs shouldn't ever need Rylai's (Annie, Brand, Morgana). Champs that don't have hard CC (not including ult) often really like Rylai's, such as Cass, Akali, Kat, Kog, etc.

On December 11 2011 19:55 JackDino wrote:
I don't know why you'd want to take a rylais over a zhonya, it gives more ap/defense and I don't see why it took you 4 items to realize you needed a slow, if you need the slow you should get it way sooner.