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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 15 2011 08:19 GMT
#81
They only changed the ADs and masteries and despite it being a tournament patch it's a good thing, if this wasn't a tourney patch and they were using the old ones it would be really confusing with the new masteries, people have enough time to get used to everything anyways before tourneys.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 15 2011 08:21 GMT
#82
On November 15 2011 17:15 Treadmill wrote:
The splash art for the new ashe skin is freaking me out.... those legs do not belong on that body (look at the angle of her stomach vs her right leg). And then theres the fact that her thigh, waist, and head are all the same size. It looks like a decent skin but that picture is just anatomically freakish.


you're right
that's kind of freaky

the vlad skin is terrible too lol. can't wait to see an influx of shitty vlad players now that he's been made "less gay" and "more manly." oh my god so bad all these "serious" skins make me laugh (except sion's, which haunts my nightmares)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
November 15 2011 08:27 GMT
#83
I think fizz is just... not correct. I mean, even Jax and Master Yi doesnt have the agility to what Fizz do off of its passive, and than he hops onto his stick (normal skill) and he becomes invulnerable? Really? Kayle needs an ult for that, and it doesnt have any additional effect. This guy is made to annoy people, and i dont like when champs are not even a little bit serious. It doesnt fit.
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NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 08:29:08
November 15 2011 08:27 GMT
#84
>.< if they nerfed the ranged of nocturne fear to keep it in line with the flash nerf, then why not nerf morg ult as well? QQ flash nerf = morg buff, she real power now
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
November 15 2011 08:31 GMT
#85
Does anyone else think that surge is insanely good, especially on champs that utilize both AS and AP? 40% AS and 86 AP 12 second buff is quite strong.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
November 15 2011 08:33 GMT
#86
On November 15 2011 17:27 shinarit wrote:
I think fizz is just... not correct. I mean, even Jax and Master Yi doesnt have the agility to what Fizz do off of its passive, and than he hops onto his stick (normal skill) and he becomes invulnerable? Really? Kayle needs an ult for that, and it doesnt have any additional effect. This guy is made to annoy people, and i dont like when champs are not even a little bit serious. It doesnt fit.


The invulnerability lasts only 0.5 second per the champion spotlight.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 15 2011 08:35 GMT
#87
Fizz still looks like Stitch. Ashe's new skin makes her look like an old woman. Hopefully it looks cool in game though, I wouldn't mind having an Ashe skin that looks cool.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
November 15 2011 08:35 GMT
#88
On November 15 2011 17:27 shinarit wrote:
I think fizz is just... not correct. I mean, even Jax and Master Yi doesnt have the agility to what Fizz do off of its passive, and than he hops onto his stick (normal skill) and he becomes invulnerable? Really? Kayle needs an ult for that, and it doesnt have any additional effect. This guy is made to annoy people, and i dont like when champs are not even a little bit serious. It doesnt fit.


Well first of all, Kayle can put that thing on anyone. The cooldown on Fizz E is pretty 'good'.
Second, In true tradition with a spotlight, the subject champion never gets focussed. See how Fizz has about Akali's HP scaling and is an AP fighter, Fizz will die pretty fast when focussed.
Third, Fizz' E is about as powerfull as nocturne or morgana spellshields, but for physical damage aswell. However at a higher cooldown its balanced enough.

KCCO!
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
November 15 2011 08:38 GMT
#89
Wait they said no major changes b/c of tournament patch... and yet they're completely recreating masteries...? Or will that change not effect the tournament games but only us? o_O
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
November 15 2011 08:41 GMT
#90
On November 15 2011 17:38 Shinshady wrote:
Wait they said no major changes b/c of tournament patch... and yet they're completely recreating masteries...? Or will that change not effect the tournament games but only us? o_O

My take on it was that masteries were more of a global thing that affects all players pretty equally as opposed to major individual champion changes which would only affect only one player in a game.
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
November 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#91
I still think that the masteries are going to be built way more towards a certain champ, then a playstyle, but some variants will be created.

But what I was trying to get at was if the masteries will hit the scene just as the tournament will start (19th?), and new masteries on the 16th = 3 days to practice w/ new masteries and try things out....? I was trying to make it seem like it was a drastic thing to do and completely contradictory to what Riot had said with the "no major changes" thing but maybe it's not too bad.
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gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
November 15 2011 08:48 GMT
#92
I hope Graves gets more nerfs,I don't like the champ and makes my computer lag with the smoke bomb T_T
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#93
Most tournaments are played on the tourney server/client which is usually a patch behind. I highly doubt tourneys for the next month or so will be playing under the Fizz patch.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
November 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#94
On November 15 2011 17:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Most tournaments are played on the tourney server/client which is usually a patch behind. I highly doubt tourneys for the next month or so will be playing under the Fizz patch.


Well , I'd say that, if it wasnt for Phreak saying 'This will be a tournament patch' in the patch preview.
KCCO!
Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
November 15 2011 08:51 GMT
#95
On November 15 2011 17:35 overt wrote:
Fizz still looks like Stitch. Ashe's new skin makes her look like an old woman. Hopefully it looks cool in game though, I wouldn't mind having an Ashe skin that looks cool.

Here, judge for yourself!
http://i.imgur.com/JAoWP.png
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 15 2011 08:52 GMT
#96
By that I think he means that it's a patch in close proximity to a tournament and they want to keep changes small so that pros can still practice on the live client without things being too out of whack. At least that's my take. If they actually force tourneys for the next month, like MLG, to be played on the Fizz patch, mastery changes and all, I'll be extremely surprised and further disappointed (if possible) in Marcou and Riot's esports division.
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 08:58:44
November 15 2011 08:56 GMT
#97
Well IEM was played on Xerath patch with Xerath being disabled... so Idk how this is going to work out...

Edit: This was also called a tournament patch by Phreak IIRC
Nvm he actually said this patch will be used for upcoming tournaments so nothing groundbreaking, but I don't know if that will apply to Providence.....
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rainfable
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States171 Posts
November 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#98
Akali nerf making me sadface.
Exhaust nerf is ehhh..
Flash nerf is making me sadface. My walls!
CV nerf is.. I guess both good and bad for me. Harder to find their jungler, but a nicely placed cv can remedy that, harder to find my jungler, but they might have a super-skilled cv user too..? >_<
New masteries.. my dear 5% exp.. q__q;;

Caitlyn's nerf isn't really a nerf, imo.. sure
Kog's nerf might take me awhile to get used to.
Graves' nerf was a good change, imo.. close-range buckshots are super deadly if you get caught in one. o_o
AP Sion ratio nerfs.. Another reason to go AD Sion.. besides the fact that you do butt-tons of damage an heal for like a thousand a hit.

.. overall, I don't feel like Akali needed the +magic nerf, I think the vamp nerf was all she needed, imo.. this just makes people have to be more careful when playing her late game, sine she's not gonna be healing up as fast with that vamp nerf, no matter how small it looks.
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#99
So, when do we get this in EU ? Looks neat.
The legend of Darien lives on
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 09:05:43
November 15 2011 09:02 GMT
#100
On November 15 2011 17:56 Shinshady wrote:
Well IEM was played on Xerath patch with Xerath being disabled... so Idk how this is going to work out...

Edit: This was also called a tournament patch by Phreak IIRC
Nvm he actually said this patch will be used for upcoming tournaments so nothing groundbreaking, but I don't know if that will apply to Providence.....

Good point. Maybe they'll just disable the masteries/fizz/new summoners? I have no idea. But honestly the new masteries and some of the summoner spell changes (and maybe even the new summoners) have potential to be meta-breaking and game breaking. It'd be really retarded if they forced MLG and shit to play on Fizz patch in its entirety.

And why are people saying AP Sion nerf is gonna make AD Sion more viable/common? AD Sion is pretty shitty since you can get kited pretty hard/have no natural tankiness without AP. And the 0.1 AP ratio nerfs aren't really gonna make Sion that much weaker at all. He can still shit on most solo mids and farm like a boss; his burst is still going to be insane. All they did was make his shitty lategame even shittier. I mean, his lategame was already pretty weak since it's pretty easy for teams to blow up you/your shield up easily. That's it really.
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