EPTHSGG is 1/4
yes hes super op I agree.
[Patch 1.0.0.129: Fizz] General Discussion - Page 30
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
HSGG is 1/4 yes hes super op I agree. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On November 17 2011 04:59 Frolossus wrote: can't wait for the new vlad skin holy shit Much better video that doesn't have broken cape animation: I pretty much use that channel anytime I'm wondering how a skin really looks. | ||
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asianskill
United States289 Posts
On November 17 2011 05:58 phyvo wrote: Much better video that doesn't have broken cape animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61jL7gWf_vI I pretty much use that channel anytime I'm wondering how a skin really looks. this skin looks amazing | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
On November 17 2011 05:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Well mainly because your original post was a list of junglers who lack hard CC. My point was nobody actually plays any of those so you can hardly consider them junglers in the first place. The logic went: 1.) Fizz is a bad jungler because of factors which include not having a hard CC 2.) I rebut with examples of many junglers who don't have hard CC, therefore hard CC is hardly a requirement 3.) Someone says many of them aren't played in competitive play 4.) I rebut again by saying many junglers w/ hard CC aren't played either, which nullifies the previous argument On November 17 2011 05:51 sermokala wrote: HSGG: Wow xerath is so op its craz HSGG is 1/4 yes hes super op I agree. He's especially OP when the enemy soraka keeps walking into Blitz hook and dying. I should know, as I saw it firsthand. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On November 17 2011 06:39 Shiragaku wrote: Bleh...does anyone feel unmotivated now that the new masteries are out? I feel exactly like this. This game just doesn't feel the same for me anymore... that and I'm feeding every game because it just feels not as important now  . | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
 Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/Nm7PO (I didn't actually disband the TL Clan. Also, I messed around a lot and I can't show you the drop-down menu for multiple teams because I derped. Sorry.) If you want to know more about the PBE and how to sign up, info is here! | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On November 17 2011 05:09 Craton wrote: A lot of junglers don't have hard CC. It's hardly a requirement. GP Lee Sin Yi Nunu Olaf Shyvana Trundle Tryndamere Twitch ya that's also why this is a list of some of the worst junglers right now. lee sin is exempt because his slow is spammable and you don't need CC when the target dies instantly GP has essentially a perma slow and an aoe speed buff so again, isn't red reliant trundle's is different cuz you can actually move the champion with pillar, or physically block their path, which I frequently do when ganking top and bot at the double bushes lining the edge of the map the rest are pretty bad...wtf twitch trolol? | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 17 2011 07:16 mOnion wrote: ya that's also why this is a list of some of the worst junglers right now. lee sin is exempt because his slow is spammable and you don't need CC when the target dies instantly GP has essentially a perma slow and an aoe speed buff so again, isn't red reliant trundle's is different cuz you can actually move the champion with pillar, or physically block their path, which I frequently do when ganking top and bot at the double bushes lining the edge of the map the rest are pretty bad...wtf twitch trolol? Well I mean some of them, but GP, Lee, and Trundle are pretty common jungle picks, and Nunu is making a solid comeback for counter-jungle players. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On November 17 2011 07:18 Brees wrote: shyvana is not bad at all. she sees a lot of high elo play since her creep clear and power level in general is realllly strong. not uncommon for her to get level 6 at same time as solos or even faster. Ya I'm really divided on how I feel about her, I know her clear time is good and the ult is decent at clearing ground and cc'ing if you get like a REALLY good angle, but I feel like it's just so easy to avoid that shit during the laning phase and then she doesn't really scale that well into the late game as a damage dealer if you go dps, or as a tank if you try tanky, but honestly I have no idea how to build her so I just kind of ignore her lol On November 17 2011 07:22 Requizen wrote: Well I mean some of them, but GP, Lee, and Trundle are pretty common jungle picks, and Nunu is making a solid comeback for counter-jungle players. oh I see, sorry. Ya it's been interesting to see nunu's cyclical patter of breaking jungles, but being a pussy teamfighter over and over again lol | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
"With the right allies" pretty much implies "not in solo queue", though. Then again Fizz probably still is pretty good in solo queue just like any mobile burst champ. Even Saintvicious said that jungle Fizz is VERY strong. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
fizz seems like the kind of champ that you could get good enough at to break the game for some of the shittier people at lower elo's haha | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
2.) HP lost from clearing 3.) Gank potential That's what defines a jungler. On November 17 2011 07:23 mOnion wrote: oh I see, sorry. Ya it's been interesting to see nunu's cyclical patter of breaking jungles, but being a pussy teamfighter over and over again lol Make Q a worthwhile fighting ability and Nunu will surge in popularity. | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
On November 17 2011 07:25 spinesheath wrote: Gap closers + burst + fast and safe jungling DO make a good jungler with the right allies. "With the right allies" pretty much implies "not in solo queue", though. Then again Fizz probably still is pretty good in solo queue just like any mobile burst champ. Even Saintvicious said that jungle Fizz is VERY strong. Didn't he say the same about shyvana? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 17 2011 07:33 Craton wrote: 1.) Clear speed 2.) HP lost from clearing 3.) Gank potential That's what defines a jungler. That's hardly all. Mobility and 1v1 ability are also hugely relevant, among other things. On November 17 2011 07:34 epoc wrote: Didn't he say the same about shyvana? And? She's not definitively bad, so that's hardly a strike against him. Shyvana could be OP, and it would still be like another month before people figure her out enough to realize it. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On November 17 2011 07:33 Craton wrote: 1.) Clear speed 2.) HP lost from clearing 3.) Gank potential That's what defines a jungler not really, but I doubt there's a clear answer to this since it's mostly normative points being made | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 17 2011 07:23 mOnion wrote: oh I see, sorry. Ya it's been interesting to see nunu's cyclical patter of breaking jungles, but being a pussy teamfighter over and over again lol Yeah, he goes in and out, but he's got a place. During his "out" times, people just forget he exists, until some pro dominates with him, ganks a bunch, and controls both jungles. Then everyone starts jungling Nunu, but realize his late game is eh. And the cycle continues. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On November 17 2011 07:11 MoonBear wrote: Hi all! Just a heads up that Ranked Team Testing is Live on the PBE. Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/Nm7PO (I didn't actually disband the TL Clan. Also, I messed around a lot and I can't show you the drop-down menu for multiple teams because I derped. Sorry.) If you want to know more about the PBE and how to sign up, info is here! Hmm...just found out a little info on ranked teams from rjcombo if anyone is interested. As of right now, max 8 players per team, max 5 teams. You play 5 games to get seeded; once seeding is finished you can only change roster (read: add a player to the team) once a week. I guess that's sort of to prevent people from getting carried to high elo if they don't actually play on the team? I dunno. Doesn't really seem like it would prevent much...I guess you could always check ranked history to see who is being carried/not playing and which 5 are playing all the games? | ||
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