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On November 17 2011 09:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:29 Craton wrote:On November 17 2011 08:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Just because something has hard cc doesn't mean it makes a strong jungle
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I also don't see how them not being played proves anything at all That is my point. Except that [...] part is everything important that I said. If you pick out things and read them in isolation you can make illogical appear logical. Junglers with hard cc not being played is not the reason why junglers without hard cc are viable. To bring it up as a counter argument is completely illogical and makes absolutely no sense. The junglers without hard cc are viable because they have pretty much all those other attributes that I listed making them strong junglers for other reasons. Your point might be correct, but you don't seem to understand why. I'm pretty sure this all started because I read something in isolation myself without noticing and then we went off on this whole meaningless tangent so I'm just going to drop it.
You're arguing only with yourself, you realize.
It's irrelevant to my argument why something is or isn't viable as a jungler because my argument says only that having a hard CC does not decide if you are a good or bad jungler and that trying to use "they aren't played competitively" for either junglers with hard CC or without is irrelevant because it's true for both types.
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wow clg is arguing between themselves so hard :D
while skrimmin against tsm
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Clearly you're right. I remember why I just ignore you most of the time now. I'm not sure why I ever doubted you.
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On November 17 2011 09:47 Alaric wrote:Just had to play as Taric on my smurf because all my champs on that alt are free (and therefore picked) this week. Doesn't look too easy to play, and sure as hell can't carry anything when your team fails. This week of grinding to level 30 won't be much fun as I'm saving for runes so no new chap either. 
Taric is, sadly, probably the worst of the traditional supports now - he used to be at parity with the other healing champions, but his heal got a HUGE hit without the rest of his kit coming up to meet it. Add in a reliance to being close to combat (unlike Soraka, who also got some very strong positive changes) and his new sidegrade ult, and he's not what he used to be.
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On November 17 2011 09:40 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:36 dignity wrote:On November 17 2011 09:31 Deltablazy wrote:
Fell down by 100 ELO.
Back to endless grinding days. Too bad solo top always taken so i cant carry. 100 elo? You mean 1000? Its actually easier to carry your team as a jungler since it lets you roam to gank as opposed to staying top and farming all day. You won't autolose if bot lane loses laning phase like you would if you were top solo because you can now help bot lane if they are losing. Man, trying to gank bot lane when they're losing often turns out into bot lane feeding 3 kills (or 1-2 kills when either you get singled out because the lane didnt help or when they derped in offensively and got killed) Gank the lane that's winning so they win so hard that A) your lane guy can carry harder and B) the other team rages more.
Ganking a lane that's already completely failed rarely helps.
Ganking a lane that's already completely won is basically useless.
Like, if I'm rolling top hard enough that my opponent is just feeding helplessly, I ward up, tell people not to come up there and just push push push. If people come to kill my lane opponent I ask them to leave and go do something productive elsewhere on the map.
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Dat match history. Maybe this is a sign to go back to SC2. Was trying to get back into 1600 after last night, now I'm trying to get back into gold.
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CLG's stream is pretty hilar.
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I just joined in; what are they arguing about? Who leads?
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On November 17 2011 10:11 Deltablazy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Dat match history. Maybe this is a sign to go back to SC2. Was trying to get back into 1600 after last night, now I'm trying to get back into gold.
leaver D:
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On November 17 2011 10:21 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 10:11 Deltablazy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Dat match history. Maybe this is a sign to go back to SC2. Was trying to get back into 1600 after last night, now I'm trying to get back into gold. leaver D:
Internet dc'd
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Holy crap CLG is dysfunctional lol.
Does anyone know why they switched Chauster to AP and jiji to AD?
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On November 17 2011 10:35 triangle wrote:
Holy crap CLG is dysfunctional lol.
Does anyone know why they switched Chauster to AP and jiji to AD?
Jiji was too bad at AP from lack of practice.
Current status:
Hotshot wants to be support, Elementz too bad/unwilling to play solo.
TSM Laughing at CLG on stream.
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On November 17 2011 10:35 triangle wrote:
Holy crap CLG is dysfunctional lol.
Does anyone know why they switched Chauster to AP and jiji to AD?
Jiji's lane phase as AP weak/passive.
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On November 17 2011 10:35 triangle wrote:
Holy crap CLG is dysfunctional lol.
Does anyone know why they switched Chauster to AP and jiji to AD?
dunno how many competitive teams you've been on but i can't think of a single one i have been on in any game that hasn't had 2 ego's clashing
chauster and hotshot just start the most stupid arguments lol
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Oh wow col spat in hsgg's face when clg was starting up. Now look at the team they have and the team CLG is.
He just said that on lo3 btw.
Wow hes shitting on hon and dota right now.
him on wcg. Yeah we were canada so it was pretty easy we just got the top 5 people and won.
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On November 17 2011 10:57 taLbuk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 10:35 triangle wrote:
Holy crap CLG is dysfunctional lol.
Does anyone know why they switched Chauster to AP and jiji to AD? dunno how many competitive teams you've been on but i can't think of a single one i have been on in any game that hasn't had 2 ego's clashing chauster and hotshot just start the most stupid arguments lol
And his fights with SV over whats the thing they need to do next and whats wrong is pretty epic. Thats just their team thougth HSGG is the superstar SV the hardcore jungler jiji was a solid as a rock before and elementz and chauster did stuff as well.
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thoughts on orianna post patch?
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Hmm I don't think anyone said this but HSGG has been on Lo3 for like 15ish min -.-
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On November 17 2011 11:04 Frolossus wrote:
thoughts on orianna post patch?
Still outclassed.
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