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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 17 2011 02:14 GMT
#641
Overheard on Saint's stream just now: HotshotGG switching to support main, Elementz going top, at least on a probational period.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
November 17 2011 02:15 GMT
#642
lolwut? Why? I am confused.
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
November 17 2011 02:15 GMT
#643
WOW hotshotGG gonna do support now and elementz solo top ! (well at least he really wants to !)

(he said he was good at all support minus allistar)
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 17 2011 02:16 GMT
#644
On November 17 2011 11:15 Shiragaku wrote:
lolwut? Why? I am confused.


he's trolling, HSGG has been playing solo queue support for some reason and he's been giving him shit about it for the last week
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 17 2011 02:20 GMT
#645
No, i'm being completely serious. CLG's been talking about it for like the last half hour, and they've agreed that Hotshot is going to be learning all the support champions so they can at the very least share the role.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
November 17 2011 02:23 GMT
#646
Well it should not be a surprise to half an extent since HotShot did play Janna during DreamHack once.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 17 2011 02:24 GMT
#647
On November 17 2011 11:20 Niton wrote:
No, i'm being completely serious. CLG's been talking about it for like the last half hour, and they've agreed that Hotshot is going to be learning all the support champions so they can at the very least share the role.


well, dunno if you used to watch elementz when he used to solo but it wasn't pretty.
freezaa
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 02:28:44
November 17 2011 02:25 GMT
#648
Again to the jungle Fizz thing, i have seen saints build but i dont get why you would build like that after wriggels. I only jungeld him 2 times until now but i got really nice results with a revolver after tier 1 boots and wriggels, then build it into gunblade. I tried Triforce after that and it went pretty smooth, i did more dmg then Ashe with IE, PD and LW. But I'll try WE after Wriggels, does it really help that much with the clearing speed?
And I think that you really need to get some AP, there is not a single of his abilities that scale of AD, and just his W scales of AS. His ulti got a 1.0 Ratio and does hurt alot if you build pure AP nuke. So imho you really need to go for some AP Items, otherwise its just wasted burst potential.
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
November 17 2011 02:30 GMT
#649
Hotshot as support actually makes a lot of sense as he plays most of his top champs like they are support. Not sure if Elementz is suited to top though but Hotshot`s play top always seemed lacking compared to other top solo`s like Voyboy and Wickd.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 02:39:20
November 17 2011 02:38 GMT
#650
I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Elementz and picked up Westrice to play top (anybody really, I just think Westrice shouldn't be playing ad). Elementz misses most of their scrims so he isn't exactly a team asset ^_^ Finding somebody who plays support is pretty challenging, but solo top is a much easier position imo.

Of course, they've also been together so long that I doubt they want to do that.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Nehsb
Profile Joined May 2009
United States380 Posts
November 17 2011 02:42 GMT
#651
On November 17 2011 11:38 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Elementz and picked up Westrice to play top (anybody really, I just think Westrice shouldn't be playing ad). Elementz misses most of their scrims so he isn't exactly a team asset ^_^ Finding somebody who plays support is pretty challenging, but solo top is a much easier position imo.

Of course, they've also been together so long that I doubt they want to do that.


Westrice is playing top, not ad for epik. They changed him to top 2 or 3 weeks ago. (And I don't think westrice has ever failed to carry in any scrim where he gets riven.)
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 17 2011 02:43 GMT
#652
On November 17 2011 11:38 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Elementz and picked up Westrice to play top (anybody really, I just think Westrice shouldn't be playing ad). Elementz misses most of their scrims so he isn't exactly a team asset ^_^ Finding somebody who plays support is pretty challenging, but solo top is a much easier position imo.

Of course, they've also been together so long that I doubt they want to do that.



Uhhhhhhh what, have you been living under a rock? O_O

Westrice stopped playing AD carry.

He plays solotop now for EG......

Also, Elementz is not so bad that they need to replace him.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 17 2011 02:43 GMT
#653
Elementz is the weakest link on CLG but they aren't going to replace him. They've been together for over a year.
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
November 17 2011 02:44 GMT
#654
Seems like CLG could stand to try and pick up a 6th player to rotate in if need be (and bench Elementz lol).
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 17 2011 02:44 GMT
#655
On November 17 2011 11:43 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 11:38 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Elementz and picked up Westrice to play top (anybody really, I just think Westrice shouldn't be playing ad). Elementz misses most of their scrims so he isn't exactly a team asset ^_^ Finding somebody who plays support is pretty challenging, but solo top is a much easier position imo.

Of course, they've also been together so long that I doubt they want to do that.



Uhhhhhhh what, have you been living under a rock? O_O

Westrice stopped playing AD carry.

He plays solotop now for EG......

Also, Elementz is not so bad that they need to replace him.


lol ease up, West was AD in last tourney. He's back to solo top is a recent change.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 17 2011 02:47 GMT
#656
Elementz seems more than fine to me
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 17 2011 02:47 GMT
#657
On November 17 2011 11:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 11:43 tobi9999 wrote:
On November 17 2011 11:38 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Elementz and picked up Westrice to play top (anybody really, I just think Westrice shouldn't be playing ad). Elementz misses most of their scrims so he isn't exactly a team asset ^_^ Finding somebody who plays support is pretty challenging, but solo top is a much easier position imo.

Of course, they've also been together so long that I doubt they want to do that.



Uhhhhhhh what, have you been living under a rock? O_O

Westrice stopped playing AD carry.

He plays solotop now for EG......

Also, Elementz is not so bad that they need to replace him.


lol ease up, West was AD in last tourney. He's back to solo top is a recent change.


Yea I guess so, since EG isn't in a lot of tournies now.

Also, Support is probably the easiest role as there aren't like 10+ champions you have to know, just 5.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
November 17 2011 02:50 GMT
#658
Support is more about functioning with AD than anything
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#659
On November 17 2011 11:47 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 11:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 17 2011 11:43 tobi9999 wrote:
On November 17 2011 11:38 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Elementz and picked up Westrice to play top (anybody really, I just think Westrice shouldn't be playing ad). Elementz misses most of their scrims so he isn't exactly a team asset ^_^ Finding somebody who plays support is pretty challenging, but solo top is a much easier position imo.

Of course, they've also been together so long that I doubt they want to do that.



Uhhhhhhh what, have you been living under a rock? O_O

Westrice stopped playing AD carry.

He plays solotop now for EG......

Also, Elementz is not so bad that they need to replace him.


lol ease up, West was AD in last tourney. He's back to solo top is a recent change.


Yea I guess so, since EG isn't in a lot of tournies now.

Also, Support is probably the easiest role as there aren't like 10+ champions you have to know, just 5.


If hotshotGG can win tournaments only knowing three champions everybody else can too ^_^ Almost all the professional league players have a small set of champions that they play. You definitely need a few so you can't be banned out and can fit into a variety of team compositions, but you definitely don't need to know 10+ champions to be at tournament level.

Also sorry for not watching people play SoloQ. There haven't been many tournaments the past few weeks to watch :p
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 17 2011 02:55 GMT
#660
On November 17 2011 11:50 Craton wrote:
Support is more about functioning with AD than anything

And jiji has been pretty bad of late.

I think the big thing CLG needs to do is have ele and jiji just duo q all day long until they are completely comfortable with each other.
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